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Story Time: Bad Neighbors

xanis

Lifer
After another incident last night, I figured that I'd share some stories about my upstairs neighbor for shits-and-giggles. FYI, I'm moving in 4 weeks to a much, much better place, so at this point I'm finding it hard to get too riled up.

I live in a small apartment complex that's divided into two buildings with two floors each and 10 units per building. I live in the end unit of the "first" building, on the bottom floor.

I've met most of my neighbors at some point and they're all cool people; they all have jobs, they're all respectful of noise, keeping the property clean, and being friendly. No complaints with any of them... except for the one above me.

Best I can tell, the guy that lives above me is on welfare or disability. He does not work at all (confirmed by the numerous times I've worked from home or my girlfriend has been home during the day). He was never really a problem up until a few months ago; the worst he thing he did was leave some Pink Floyd/Zeppelin going a little too loud late into the night. Nothing that couldn't be fixed some white noise in my place, and it was a fairly rare occurrence. I occasionally heard him argue with a man and woman, but again, it wasn't bad and it wasn't that frequent.

A few months back he fell asleep smoking a cigarette and lit his sheets and mattress on fire (I posted a thread about this). My girlfriend and I luckily woke up when his smoke detector started going off and we were able to call 911 and get the PD and FD there to save the guy and put the fire out. We never got any sort of thank you or even acknowledgement from the guy.

Since then, there have been numerous incidents involving the police. Roughly two weeks ago, the police were at his apartment no less than 5 times in the span of 4 days responding to domestic disturbance calls. My girlfriend and I called the police two of those times after hearing screaming and "get off me".

The police have shown up a few other times as well for similar things. One of the times, two guys came into the apartment (the idiot leaves his door unlocked) and roughed the guy upstairs up. The cops came and one guy bolted. I think they managed to arrest one of the two.

Last night the police and medics both arrived, because the idiot's severely drunk brother fell down the stairs and busted his head open on the concrete and accused some woman of pushing him. There was a nice pool of blood outside when I went to take the dog out. I gave the police a statement and told them what I heard: The woman was talking about "that loser drug dealer" and "your fucking brother" and how he "got pushed". Hopefully this time something will actually be done, but I don't know what. There's no law that I'm aware of that prevents people from keeping terrible company.

The police and landlord are very aware; I've called them both several times myself. Not sure why the guy hasn't been evicted yet... maybe I'm missing something in the tenant laws that's preventing him from getting kicked out because he won't press charges or something? At any rate, I'll be calling the landlord yet again on my lunch break to tell them what happened.

I'm sort of numb to it at this point because I'm moving, but I hope that his ass gets thrown out on the street so the next tenants don't have to suffer from this.

tl;dr

- Nightmare neighbor almost burns the apartment down
- Nightmare neighbor keeps company with an apparent drug dealer and severely-drunk brother
- Neighbor regularly gets in hours-long screaming matches with whoever is there
- Idiot neighbor doesn't lock door, got attacked one night
- Idiot neighbor's idot drunk brother falls down stairs and busts head open
- Police have been to my apartment probably 10+ times at this point
 
I'm sure there's probably enough evidence collected, but from what I understand it is somewhat difficult to evict a paying tenant. I'm not a landlord, just what I have heard in the past.
 
I'm sure there's probably enough evidence collected, but from what I understand it is somewhat difficult to evict a paying tenant. I'm not a landlord, just what I have heard in the past.

This is what I've heard as well. I'm not 100% sure of what the laws are. Maybe I'll take a few minutes before I call the landlord to educate myself.

EDIT: Looks like it's a somewhat-involved process, at least in NJ: https://www.judiciary.state.nj.us/civil/civ-04.htm
 
good thing you're moving in 4 weeks.

I'm staying in my place for at least another year, and we have a giant upstairs. Well, it's a 3 year old kid, but she likes to run around the 1 bedroom apartment. The one with hardwood floors. And without much sound deadening material between us. I don't really mind, but the wife doesn't handle it as well.
 
good thing you're moving in 4 weeks.

I'm staying in my place for at least another year, and we have a giant upstairs. Well, it's a 3 year old kid, but she likes to run around the 1 bedroom apartment. The one with hardwood floors. And without much sound deadening material between us. I don't really mind, but the wife doesn't handle it as well.

I'd gladly take some noise from a harmless upstairs neighbor with a kid than some asshat that's surrounded by violence and bullshit 24/7.
 
I would never live ANYWHERE that has a neighbor above me. Unless there is some major sound insulation etc going on (in most cases that's a no go).

MOVE op!!!!
 
This is what I've heard as well. I'm not 100% sure of what the laws are. Maybe I'll take a few minutes before I call the landlord to educate myself.

EDIT: Looks like it's a somewhat-involved process, at least in NJ: https://www.judiciary.state.nj.us/civil/civ-04.htm

just finished RE school in NJ. it's tough to evict, and also in that you really gotta prove things. with the amount of police reports here it would probably go easily for the landlord.
 
Tenant laws are so stupid...so is "fair housing".

A lot of places could be so much nicer if you could get kick out the people that are destroying the place from the inside, race aside as it doesn't matter what color your skin is. It's sad that a single tenant can ruin the whole experience.
 
Tenant laws are so stupid...so is "fair housing".

A lot of places could be so much nicer if you could get kick out the people that are destroying the place from the inside, race aside as it doesn't matter what color your skin is. It's sad that a single tenant can ruin the whole experience.

The place I'm moving to *should* be much better... they have fairly-high income requirements and they do pretty thorough checks with the applications. Doesn't keep out ALL of the shitheads, but it helps with the welfare leeches like this guy.
 
I would never live ANYWHERE that has a neighbor above me. Unless there is some major sound insulation etc going on (in most cases that's a no go).

MOVE op!!!!

The girlfriend and I talked a few times about this sort of thing, and we're in agreement that when it's time to tie the knot and raise a family, we want to move to bumfuck where it's quiet and we can have a little land. We've visited friends in rural Vermont and we really liked it, so maybe that's a possibility.

Moving in ~4.5 weeks. Just gotta hold on for a little while longer. 😉
 
Odds of this guy being a section 8 renter? 100%

Building doesn't allow Section 8 (so I was told). My guess is that he either got injured or let go from his job after moving in, and he's been leaching off welfare ever since. If he is, just another confirmation that my decision to move to a place with good income requirements was the right choice. :thumbsup:
 
Karma would be you get him thrown out, he knows it was you that did it, and he moves in the same new place you go to.
 
I hate apartments for this very reason. Unless you can afford a luxury apartment (and if you can do that, just get a house right?) you just never know who you're going to get for a neighbor. I called the cops on one of my neighbors in my last apartment multiple times a week. Due to tenant laws, they weren't able to evict him or do ANYTHING to help the situation. He even had a warrant out of his arrest, but the cops couldn't kick the door in because it was a "minor" warrant or some BS.
 
I hate apartments for this very reason. Unless you can afford a luxury apartment (and if you can do that, just get a house right?) you just never know who you're going to get for a neighbor. I called the cops on one of my neighbors in my last apartment multiple times a week. Due to tenant laws, they weren't able to evict him or do ANYTHING to help the situation. He even had a warrant out of his arrest, but the cops couldn't kick the door in because it was a "minor" warrant or some BS.

Pretty similar situation with my neighbor. I don't think they've actually caught him doing anything illegal, and they can't exactly arrest him for making shitty companion choices. He's a terrible tenant, but the eviction process is so convoluted that he'll probably be around for a while.
 
Lunch break, so you have a job, then why do you live in such a place? gentrification?

Moved and wanted a cheap place so I could put a little more money into my savings and retirement accounts. Mission accomplished, but I did wind up getting what I paid for it seems. I make more money now and I've saved up a bit, so it's time to pay up and get something decent.
 
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