Question StoreMI revisited. StoreMI 1.0 EOLed, StoreMI 2.0 released

[VirtualLarry]

Where on AMD's web site do we get the "StorMI" drivers? I tried searching their site for "StorMI" and "Store MI", and ... nothing?

Did they drop support for this? It was supposed to be a feature in conjunction with B450 and X470 (aka all 400-series AM4 chipsets), that did SSD caching / tiering.

I've picked up some 128GB NVMe SSDs, and have a few B450 MSI mobos with M.2 NVMe slots winging my way, and I thought that possibly, I would try out a StorMI build, in conjunction with some 2TB WD Blue 5400RPM HDDs, and Windows 10.

Can someone point me in the right direction?

Oh, F! They've cancelled it. So much for that.

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/store-mi

AMD StoreMI storage acceleration software will no longer be available for download after March 31, 2020. An exciting new version, with enhanced features, is planned for release in 2Q20. Please see the Product Change Advisory for more information.

Edit: Now it says:

If you have an AMD X570 motherboard, you can download AMD StoreMI for free.

Additional StoreMI support for AMD B550, 400-series, X399 and TRX40 chipsets expected Q3 2020.

---

If you have an AMD X570, B550, 400 Series, X399, TRX40, or WRX80 motherboard, you can download AMD StoreMI for free.

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/store-mi

For Google-fodder, the "New, re-designed by AMD" StoreMI (with the "e" on "Store") is Available! Now, supports AHCI mode ONLY, NOT RAID mode, on the chipset. Also, SSD is a pure cache only, not a spanned configuration.

 

[Ratman6161]

StorMi is just an AMD re-brand of Emotus Fuzedrive which you can still get emotus.com/amd.

 

[VirtualLarry]

StorMi is just an AMD re-brand of Emotus Fuzedrive which you can still get emotus.com/amd.

FuzeDrive SSD for AMD Ryzen | Enmotus

The new FuzeDrive 1.5.X version features an enhanced user interface and supports all Ryzen processors and chipsets including the 500 series. Upgrade now.

www.enmotus.com

Cheapest option I see is $19.99 USD. StorMI no longer available.

 

[mxnerd]

https://drivers.amd.com/relnotes/amd-storemi-user-guide-v1_5_final.pdf

You can't uninstall StoreMI.

P.38.

Uninstalling StoreMI Software A StoreMI system reformats the Windows raw disks in order to function properly. Once formatted, there is no supported way to revert back to the original boot drive as the data is spread across multiple drives.

Completely uninstalling the software is therefore not possible for bootable StoreMI TierDrives without utilizing a third party OS migration tool.

StoreMI may be uninstalled using standard Windows uninstall options via the setup or control panel. However, special steps are required if the StoreMI is a boot drive.

==

Why would you want to risk your data?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Why would you want to risk your data?

I'm not entirely convinced that a tiered boot drive is in any way worse, statistically, than RAID-0 NVMe boot drives.

And plus, this would be for the "Gamer PCs", if I stuck a 2TB HDD in there, with a 128GB NVMe "Fast Tier" drive. That is, if StorMI were still available.

I hope that AMD's (home-grown?) replacement shows up soon. Otherwise, class-action over an advertised feature that is no longer available for the platform? I'm not aware that AMD's promotional slides for B450 and X470 chipsets, touting "StorMI" as a feature, said anything about "Available for a limited time only".

Are there any more ADVERTISED FEATURES of the AM4 platform, Ryzen CPU or APUs, or chipsets, being removed or neutered?

 

[mxnerd]

The problem is that if either the SSD/nVME or HDD went bad, the whole volume can be gone with it. If it's a pure gaming PC, then owner probably won't care too much as long as he can store crtitical files elsewhere.

If you still want to download StoreMi software, Softpedia got it.

Download AMD StoreMI Technology Utility 1.5.3.22296 for Windows 10, Windows 10 64 bit

Download AMD StoreMI Technology Utility 1.5.3.22296 for Windows 10 - Motherboard

drivers.softpedia.com

Micosoft removed HomeGroup, are you going to sue them?

==

Linus suggests buying a cheaper board and a copy of PrimoCache.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Micosoft removed HomeGroup, are you going to sue them?

No, they didn't. AFAIK, "HomeGroup" was never in Win10 to start with.

How would you feel if Microsoft thought that the R&D for Windows Defender cost too much, and nobody used it anyways, so they axed it, and people had to go with paid third-party A/V solutions? Because that is about what AMD is pulling here.

 

[mxnerd]

Microsoft axes features all the time or stops developing products. Everyone got offended, of course including me. It is what it is.

Just name a few:

Windows Desktop Gadgets, Windows Media Center with TV card support, Outlook Express, Windows Media Player, Windows Home Server, Small Business Server (this is big). And now they are killing Windows Server Essentials!

Developer tools: MS FrontPage, Expression Web, Visual Interdev, VB6. Foxpro, etc.

Does pleading from users, partners all over the world make any difference? No.

 

[VirtualLarry]

But none of those are EOL'ing advertised features WITHIN A PRODUCT, while that product itself is on the market and not EOLed itself. MS publishes very clear guidance on product lifespan.

 

[mxnerd]

So a feature removal on a motherboard is more serious than product lines that have been on the market for many years and used by countless users but abruptly discontinued by vendor? OK.

Businesses, parteners, engineers, developers spend billions for these products and trainings for years and does MS even care? When MS wants to end it, it ends. You have to start over, period.

 

[VirtualLarry]

When MS wants to end it, it ends. You have to start over, period.

Like I said, MS clearly documents the lifespans of their products. If they choose not too continue to develop NEW versions of said product lines, TOO BAD. There's no legal liability there.

If you produce a product, and devote significant advertising to certain features, in order to sell the product, and then part-way through the lifespan of your product, you remove said feature, and don't provide a replacement, and continue to advertise that feature, that's fraud, IMHO. That's a totally different issue than EOLing a product line altogether, especially when the lifespan was clearly documented.

 

[VirtualLarry]

So a feature removal on a motherboard is more serious than product lines that have been on the market for several years and used by countless users? OK.

Yes, legally-speaking.

Businesses, parteners, engineers, developers spend billions for these products and trainings for years and does MS even care? When MS wants to end it, it ends. You have to start over, period.

Where is the liability for those 3rd-party ecosystems to MS? There is none.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Well, here's LTT YT vid on Ryzen 3000-series "XT" CPUs, and he mentioned StorMI 2.0 at around 9:00 in the video.

Apparently, it only supports 3000-series CPUs on X570 at launch? WTF AMD?

B450 chipset was advertised with this feature, it's no longer available, AMD make me whole!

 

[mxnerd]

The file available at Softpedia (post #6)

Download AMD StoreMI Technology Utility 1.5.3.22296 for Windows 10, Windows 10 64 bit

Download AMD StoreMI Technology Utility 1.5.3.22296 for Windows 10 - Motherboard

drivers.softpedia.com

doesn't work for your B450?

Old 1.5 is tiered storage

New 2.0 is cached only though.

AMD also updated StoreMI info.

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/store-mi

Additional StoreMI support for AMD B550, 400-series, X399 and TRX40 chipsets expected Q3 2020.

B450 support will come, just later.

 

[VirtualLarry]

If you have an AMD X570, B550, 400 Series, X399, TRX40, or WRX80 motherboard, you can download AMD StoreMI for free.

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/store-mi

For Google-fodder, the "New, re-designed by AMD" StoreMI (with the "e" on "Store") is Available! Now, supports AHCI mode ONLY, NOT RAID mode, on the chipset. Also, SSD is a pure cache only, not a spanned configuration.

In other news, 3D XPoint at this point, is basically dead on the market, Micron is looking to sell their 3D XPoint fabs. So sad, was a very promising technology, but they never really got past initial commercialization, and on to economies of scale to bring pricing down. QLC NAND it is, sadly.

16GB Optane, sold by "Corn Electronics", but "Shipped by Newegg" is $22 right now.

Are you a human?

www.newegg.com

Might be interesting and fun to test out, in combination, with say, a 4TB WD Blue 5400RPM HDD, to see how responsive Windows 10 is.