Stock equivalent for 3570k @ 4.8?

[mildewman]

Can anybody suggest a stock speed CPU that has equivalent gaming performance to a 3570k @ 4.8 ?

My best guess so far is a ryzen 3 1300x.



thanks,

 

[Sable]

fairly sure a 3570k @ 4.8 will stomp a ryzen 1300

 

[mildewman]

Thanks for the response Sable, its for those game requirements sites where you have to input your cpu type. They never have overclocked cpus as an option so im trying to work out what my cpu is equivalent to. Obviously i can compare to lists of benchmark results, but since hyperthreaded chips tend to give wildly optimistic results in most cpu benchmarks im having trouble with an apples to apples comparision.

My cpu gets

 

[Arkaign]

Per clock per core, a Ryzen is within 5-7% of Sandy/Ivy era I'm gaming. So a stock 3570 and stock Ryzen 1300 would be so close it'd be pretty tough to tell the difference. But all cores at 4.8Ghz gives one hell of a boost to 3570k, compared to 3.5/3.9T, probably close to 20% overall, and at least 15%.

With less threaded games, tbh there isn't much of anything that can really surpass that approximate range, even my 5.2 8086k/3733 build probably isn't all that much better.

For newer titles that can use beyond 4 threads, a decent 4.2ish running 1600x or better would be what you'd want to get, so you'd be able to at least equal, and in many cases dominate the older pure no-HT quad core setups.

 

[mildewman]

Thanks for the response Arkaign, Its odd - in Firestrike CPU i get 9000 so equivalent to a 1700x, but in Timespy CPU i get 3600 so equivalent to a 1300x.

Just as long as its adequate for CP2077 when it eventually gets released

 

[SPBHM]

I'm going to take a guess, stock 7600K?

comparing to other CPUs is not simple, less threads but higher ST perf will make it extremely variable from one game to the other.

 

[krumme]

3570k at 4.8? That sounds extremely high imo. That processor was usually more like 4.2 4.4 tops.
I had one at 4.2and was a very nice processor but bf1 mp64 killed it. I would say the modern alternative is a 2600x on a cheap mb or a 8400/8500. Same price bracket.
No need to go 1300x for gaming imo when the 8400 is there.

 

[mildewman]

Yes i really hit the lottery with this one. Delidded and gooped with conductonaut on both sides of the heatspreader, 4.8gig @ 1.35 volts , 75 degrees prime95 small sample size, no WHEA errors. On AIR !!

 

[krumme]

Yes i really hit the lottery with this one. Delidded and gooped with conductonaut on both sides of the heatspreader, 4.8gig @ 1.35 volts , 75 degrees prime95 small sample size, no WHEA errors. On AIR !!

Good job!! Well done even if you were lucky.
We have unlucky people here getting a max of 4.7 of a 8700k.

Mine does 4.8 just selecting the auto stuff but I don't really bother today. Plenty of grunt for my need so stays at stock to save power.

 

[Ed1]

3570k at 4.8? That sounds extremely high imo. That processor was usually more like 4.2 4.4 tops.
I had one at 4.2and was a very nice processor but bf1 mp64 killed it. I would say the modern alternative is a 2600x on a cheap mb or a 8400/8500. Same price bracket.
No need to go 1300x for gaming imo when the 8400 is there.

3570k are pretty good OC'ers, 4.2 would be w/o any added voltage, even 4.3 sometimes.
Should easy hit 4.5 on just about any chip (around 1.25v), but around 4.6-4.7 IMO is a good chance.
I run 4.5 with 1.22v on a 212evo, high temps gaming are like mid to upper 60's.

PS: no deliding.

OP: you can run CPU-Z benchmark and there is a comparison list of CPU to compare.
Of course, this is a prime type test so not equal to a game or some other app.

 

[epsilon84]

I would say a stock i3 8100, or any equivalent older gen i5 such as 6600/7500.

The Skylake based chips have quite a significant IPC advantage, that plus the additional DDR4 bandwidth means you need about an extra 1GHz on a 3570K to make up that difference.

From AMD, an overclocked Ryzen 3 1200/1300X at 4GHz should be pretty close also

 

[Ed1]

I would say a stock i3 8100, or any equivalent older gen i5 such as 6600/7500.

The Skylake based chips have quite a significant IPC advantage, that plus the additional DDR4 bandwidth means you need about an extra 1GHz on a 3570K to make up that difference.

From AMD, an overclocked Ryzen 3 1200/1300X at 4GHz should be pretty close also

Looking at CPU-Z benchmark, for single IPC for my 3570k@4.5 I am ahead of stock4790k and close to 6700. At 4.8 I would say close to 7700k

On AMD side all the 1xxx are way slower in IPC but a 2700 would be close to 4.8, so need 2xxx series for sure.

 

[majord]

8350k

 

[Jimzz]

The other thing is the system for the 3570k is running DDR3 on a older spec chipset. So many gains not looked at are the system as a whole.

I have a 3770 system and have been looking at upgrading. Will probably get a 6core Ryzen 5 on a B450 board and re-use my RX580 GPU. Waiting till this Christmas to early next year for Ram prices to drop and see if Zen2 will be out in good quantities.

 

[ZGR]

Slow DDR3 will be its main weakness. There are many games where fast and tight ddr4 add big improvements. It makes it kind of hard to compare since DDR3 is obsolete.

I would say it is around a lightly overclocked i5-7600k. Without knowing RAM speed and timings in comparisons, it can get messy.

I do know my 4690k @ 4.6 became a big bottleneck in newer games that supported more cores and hyperthreading. But as you say, Cyberpunk 2077 isn't out yet. No reason in even contemplating an upgrade.

 

[mildewman]

Thanks for the answers all, i'll start entering i5-7600 into the cpu field on "can i run it" sites to err on the safe side.

 

[TheGiant]

If you don't have budget for low latency memory, new board and a nice CPU (like the new 9600K, or 9700K) I wouldn't even bother upgrading from your CPU.

 

[Dasa2]

Upgrading from a 3770k at 4.5GHz with 2133c19 RAM to 6700k at stock with 2133 RAM was only ~4% faster in a CPU bound game.
OC the 6700k to 4.7GHz and it pulls a 13% lead add to that overclocking the RAM to 4000c17 and its lead extends to 43%

But if the 3770k only had 1600c11 RAM then it was 14% slower than with 2133c9
https://www.overclock.net/forum/180...0c11-2133c9-ddr4-2133c15-3000c12-4000c17.html

Newer CPU like the 9900K have much the same IPC as my 6700k but extra cores and higher clock speeds so you should be able to estimate gains based on that.