I recently purchased an Intel Pentium G850, for us in an HTPC, my plan was to use the stock cooler with it. I noticed that the heat sink has some thermal paste already applied, would it be advisable to remove it with some isopropyl alcohol, and purchase and apply another type\brand, or will the stock work just fine?
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Stock cooler on Intel Pentium
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Andle Riddum
Member
Don't remove it. Stock TIM on Intel CPU cooler works the best for some peculiar reason. Be right back, gotta find that link for ya.
edit:http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Intel-Stock-Thermal-Compound-Review/1273
I trust their findings, they don't do BS
edit:http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Intel-Stock-Thermal-Compound-Review/1273
I trust their findings, they don't do BS
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I read that same review, the part that they don't mention is how long the allow the paste to "Burn in." I was under the impression that higher end thermal paste performs better after a week or so of use, allowing it to heat up and cool back down. And the lower end performs well at the start, but starts to wain after several months of uses
Of course even then it might be moot, as I won't be overclocking, and a few degrees warmer, most likely won't do to much harm.
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Andle Riddum
Member
Burn in factor in this particular case is moot. As you mentioned, you aren't overclocking plus very low heat output of Pentium G and puny designed HSF.
I want to point that Burn-in time may be overlooked by many, afaik by a lot of respected review sites. Obviously this is due lack of extensive testing time, but as such TIM as Arctic Silver 5 performed less than stellar in those tests. Nowadays AS 5 is considered obsolete compared to modern TIMs which is not true(after burn-in). Benchmarkreviews did a recent roundup and guess what? After proper burn-in time AS5 is right up there in the tier ranks.
I want to point that Burn-in time may be overlooked by many, afaik by a lot of respected review sites. Obviously this is due lack of extensive testing time, but as such TIM as Arctic Silver 5 performed less than stellar in those tests. Nowadays AS 5 is considered obsolete compared to modern TIMs which is not true(after burn-in). Benchmarkreviews did a recent roundup and guess what? After proper burn-in time AS5 is right up there in the tier ranks.
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tweakboy
Diamond Member
Yes you must clean off CPU so it shines. Then do same thing with your HSF
Then Apply Antec. A drop in the middle then play with it with latex glove and cover whole CPU. gl
Phynaz
Lifer
OP ignore this please. Just mount the heatsink, you will be fine.
The problem with making any kind of rules of thumb about Intel stock HSF's is that they don't use the same fan consistently.
I was shocked to find this out myself when I was trying to do some comparisons between my Intel stock HSF results on my 2600k versus 3770k and cross check them to other results on the internet. Intel seems to pick and ship fans at will/random for their HSF.
Presumably they all meet the same CFM spec requirements which is all they are after, but the power consumption varies quite a bit across the fans they use for their stock HSF.
NTMBK
Lifer
Ignore this. This is a 65W processor running at stock speeds, you don't need to go crazy. If you listen to some people on this site, you'd be delidding a Celeron and mounting watercooling in order to get acceptable temps.
Sarcasm aside, the OP is doing this for a HTPC where noise is presumably an undesirable outcome of having a stock HSF cranking away at high rpm's when the CPU temps go up. If I had a HTPC then I would probably replace the HSF just for the noise aspects alone.
Meghan54
Lifer
jacktesterson
Diamond Member
You are fine with stock paste. Don't be fooled.
Gigantopithecus
Diamond Member
Why anyone wouldn't have him on their ignore list is beyond me.
OP, you'll be fine with the stock paste. Replacing it with performance grade TIM *might* drop your temps a few degrees, but that's such a low power CPU and HTPC use is not at all CPU intensive that you'll just be wasting time and money.
If you're going to do anything, replace the stock HSF with a passive cooler. If your case already has good ventilation, you'll likely be able to able run the G-series Pentium without an active fan on the heatsink itself.
IntelEnthusiast
Intel Representative
IDK here is some info on the stock HSF being used. http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/core/core-i7-processor/components.html
Hey thank you very much for that :thumbsup:
Yeah this surprised me as I assumed Intel would use the same HSF components within a given SKU. But then I noticed my 3770k uses a Nidec fan on the stock HSF whereas an unboxing video I watched on youtube showed a 3770k with a Delta stock fan.
And different fans are, well, different. They use different amounts of power, have different cfm vs. dB vs. rpm profiles, etc. And so there is all this benchmark data out there on 3770k's which aren't really apples-to-apples because there is no assurance that the "stock" HSF was comprised of the same components, delivering the same performance and so on.
tweakboy
Diamond Member
Im just going by what all the sites and manufactors say. and instructions say when you buy a HSF.
Get Antec Paste , its dirt cheap and is better then arctic.
Put a dab right in the middle then wear a latex glove and move the paste around carefully so it covers the whole CPU. Then put the HSF on.
Phynaz
Lifer
Show us one link that says any of this is required or desired for a stock Pentium.
Coup27
Platinum Member
There is absolutely no reason what so ever to remove the stock Intel TIM and replace it with an aftermarket TIM.
The whole point of the stock cooler is it can cool your CPU if you are using it within a stock configuration. As it is a Pentium, then you are.
My Intel stock HSF with stock Intel TIM keeps my i3-2130 at ~30°C at idle. I have also used the stock Intel HSF on a number of stock builds with similar results.
The only time IMO you would want to move away from the stock HSF is if you were overclocking or for acoustic reasons.
The whole point of the stock cooler is it can cool your CPU if you are using it within a stock configuration. As it is a Pentium, then you are.
My Intel stock HSF with stock Intel TIM keeps my i3-2130 at ~30°C at idle. I have also used the stock Intel HSF on a number of stock builds with similar results.
The only time IMO you would want to move away from the stock HSF is if you were overclocking or for acoustic reasons.
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In their previous roundup, their findings was that AS5 outperformed MX4 and NT-H1 which is at variance with other also respectable sites. They are probably doing everything right and the differences are small enough to be explained by the small error margin due to the sensor resolution and differences in installation. Fairly viscous pastes like AS5 and NT-H1 need a bit of wiggling with the heatsink (or be spread out abit with a razor blade) and some sites like the one above might not do it.
IMO you won't lose anything by using good aftermarket paste like MX4 or something better.
BTW, I'm using like I said a Hyper 212 Evo with my G630 and with the fan at 600 RPM the chip idles at 24°C and after 5 minutes of Orthos it reaches 36°C, while dead quiet.
Lovely numbers! So definitely for acoustic reasons it's a good choice, I'm amazed by how cool this chip runs.
Lovely numbers! So definitely for acoustic reasons it's a good choice, I'm amazed by how cool this chip runs.
The G630 and other budget level celerons run quite cool and the stock heatsink is reasonably quiet at full load and I don't think the stock fan is failure prone (replaying to your previous post). Replacing with an aftermarket cooler than costs 1/2 the cpu is probably overkill unless you really don't want any noise.
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