Discussion Still getting rejection letters for job applications.... but I do have a good news.

[Amol S.]

I will be taking the drivers permit test soon. After getting the license I will be able to look outside of NYC for jobs.

I already have a list of places where I do want to work, if i got an offer outside of NYS (after getting a license):
* Dallas-Fort Worth Metropolitan Statistical Area
* Greater Austin
* Lubbock, Texas
* Minneapolis - St.Pauls Metropolitan - Bloomington Statistical Area
* Greater Milwaukee
* Kansas City / Overland Park
* Anchorage, Alaska
* Denver, Colorado
* Phoenix, Arizona
* Sioux Falls, South Dakota

The following are a list of places where I would not work
* Florida
* Houston, Texas (HQ of oil industry)
* El Paso, Texas
* California
* Ohio
* Arkansas

As I said before, looking for an entry level job in tech. Right now, currently still in NYC If anyone has one has an open position in NYC or Remote, please pm me. I would really appreciate it.

 

[JM Aggie08]

Tech companies are handing out jobs at the moment. What's your background?

Avoid Austin - far too expensive for it to be sensible.

 

[Spydermag68]

Stay away from Colorado. They have a lot of oil companies and prices are sky high for housing.

 

[JM Aggie08]

Might I suggest Raleigh or Durham NC?

 

[nakedfrog]

Kansas City is okay. Omaha probably has more tech jobs than you think, and is also okay.

 

[Captante]

There are literally 100's of tech-jobs available right now in NYC.... I get offers via Monster/Indeed/Dice nearly every day that would require a commute which I'm just not interested in.

 

[Zeze]

Can you please provide more details.

What is your line of work?
Developer?
Product Owner?
Desktop support?
What is your work experience?

 

[herm0016]

Stay away from Colorado. They have a lot of oil companies and prices are sky high for housing.

hate to break it to you, but there are oil companies everywhere. and why does that matter?

but yes, the front range is very expensive.

 

[JM Aggie08]

Yeah, wtf is with the avoidance of cities with oil company HQs? It's not like there are refineries peppering the metro area -- it's fucking office buildings lol.

 

[Mloot]

Depending on what kind of job you are looking for, some of the larger oil companies can pay pretty decently. If you do work in the industry, you just have to keep in mind that it is often "feast or famine.". My company laid off over half it's work force in 2020 because of the pandemic, lockdowns, and drop in demand for oil. Now we are on a hiring spree, again, to refill the ranks in this current market.

 

[deadlyapp]

Can you please provide more details.

What is your line of work?
Developer?
Product Owner?
Desktop support?
What is your work experience?

Look at any of his hundred of posts. He's degreed in cybersecurity I seem to recall but has zero work experience in any aspect.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Look at any of his hundred of posts. He's degreed in cybersecurity I seem to recall but has zero work experience in any aspect.

Which frankly means nothing, should probably be looking at a very entry level sysad position, or helpdesk for a lil while at least. Maybe junior dev if he's got the chops in any way, but I doubt it.

 

[waffleironhead]

hate to break it to you, but there are oil companies everywhere. and why does that matter?

but yes, the front range is very expensive.

Just looked up a rental I had in fort collins in early 2000's that was $650, now going do $1750. wow. so glad i moved.

 

[compcons]

Which frankly means nothing, should probably be looking at a very entry level sysad position, or helpdesk for a lil while at least. Maybe junior dev if he's got the chops in any way, but I doubt it.

There is zero chance someone with any cybersecurity degree or experience should be looking for a job. It has had a negative unemplyment rate forever. Any entry level person should be able to find a remote gig doing SOC work with little effort. Location is mostly irrelevant. The biggest limitation is tax implications if you live and work in ertain states.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

There is zero chance someone with any cybersecurity degree or experience should be looking for a job. It has had a negative unemplyment rate forever. Any entry level person should be able to find a remote gig doing SOC work with little effort. Location is mostly irrelevant. The biggest limitation is tax implications if you live and work in ertain states.

Well, someone with a degree and no experience, unless they're really hot to trot on learning and pick up quickly, is going to be a negative benefit to me and my team for about a year in most cases, as that's how long it'll take to get that person up to speed with how 'IT works' enough for them to act independently and competently. Generally that experience happens as you work your way up from something like a helpdesk, maybe a NOC/SOC/whatever. Even that though they're gonna be asking more questions than doing for a long long time.

Now with experience, that changes. I'd take a smart guy with 2 years on a helpdesk over a smart guy with a degree, though.

 

[compcons]

Well, someone with a degree and no experience, unless they're really hot to trot on learning and pick up quickly, is going to be a negative benefit to me and my team for about a year in most cases, as that's how long it'll take to get that person up to speed with how 'IT works' enough for them to act independently and competently. Generally that experience happens as you work your way up from something like a helpdesk, maybe a NOC/SOC/whatever. Even that though they're gonna be asking more questions than doing for a long long time.

Now with experience, that changes. I'd take a smart guy with 2 years on a helpdesk over a smart guy with a degree, though.

I do agree with the experience aspect, but SOCs are not bastions of subtle teoubleshooting skills. A SOC should be all about work flows. Junior people usually only collect info and perform basic tasks (which is usually having the helpdesk executing actions like password resets). After the initial triage, they are passing the things that require more experience up the chain. Ultimately, an Incident Response team does the actual investigation in cyber incidents.

It really is the right place for a fresh cyber security grad to get their foot in the door. The more mature the organization, the better. Those orgs have entry level roles specifically defined and it's usually rhe highest turn over as the experienced people move to IR or Red/Blue teams.

 

[compcons]

Look at any of his hundred of posts. He's degreed in cybersecurity I seem to recall but has zero work experience in any aspect.

@Amol S. Can you reply with your actual degree and related experience? Happy to provide direction if possible.

For you young people, you can simplify the start of your job search if you have an active linked in profile. The old people (30+) still use it as an effective pre-screening tool.

 

[compcons]

Look at any of his hundred of posts. He's degreed in cybersecurity I seem to recall but has zero work experience in any aspect.

@Amol S. Can you reply with your degree and related experience?

 

[Torn Mind]

hate to break it to you, but there are oil companies everywhere. and why does that matter?

but yes, the front range is very expensive.

L.A has a bunch rigs all over...hidden and disguised.

 

[Torn Mind]

The real reason to avoid Houston, Texas is that it's full of criminals who know the ropes of causing harm and getting away with it with little or no penalty, including 2020's Victim of the Year.

 

[Captante]

L.A has a bunch rigs all over...hidden and disguised.

Wow .... I had no idea!

I was aware of things like fake building in major cities hiding infrastructure like transformer sub-stations but oil wells?

Sounds like these would be legitimate NIMBY-issues and potential mass-carcinogens.

Funny how CA tries to regulate every single even slightly cancer-causing chemical in most stuff but then they let crap like this go clearly because it's profitable!

 

[Torn Mind]

Wow .... I had no idea!

I was aware of things like fake building in major cities hiding infrastructure like transformer sub-stations but oil wells?

Sounds like these would be legitimate NIMBY-issues and potential mass-carcinogens.

Funny how CA tries to regulate every single even slightly cancer-causing chemical in most stuff but then they let crap like this go clearly because it's profitable!

It's basically the conumdrum that always presents itself with oil. On the one hand, it's polluting and harmful to people, but it does generate revenue or help people stretch a budget. Like plastic furniture. If someone values keeping the income, they'll buy plastic because other materials are more expensive and heavier. .

It seems like the time is running out. However, the city will likely "make mistakes"(actually intentionally as politicians and attorneys are far too well-practiced in law to actually be incompetent) so the companies have plenty of time. After all, it is a political monopoly where there is no opposition, thus no threat of accountability via voting for a contrarian.

Los Angeles’ long, troubled history with urban oil drilling is nearing an end after years of health concerns

Photos from the early 1900s show LA’s forests of oil derricks. Hundreds of wells are still pumping, and research shows how people living nearby are struggling with breathing problems.

theconversation.com

Los Angeles moves to end oil drilling in the city

The Los Angeles City Council votes to take steps to phase out oil production in the city, a move celebrated by environmentalists.

www.latimes.com

 

[sdifox]

That house arrest definitely has an impact, see if you can get your record expunged.

 

[herm0016]

L.A has a bunch rigs all over...hidden and disguised.

yep

the islands just off the coast are artificial islands full of oil wells as well, though from the beach they look like condos. haha.

 

[deadlyapp]

yep

the islands just off the coast are artificial islands full of oil wells as well, though from the beach they look like condos. haha.

AFAIK there are only a few of them and all off the long Beach coast.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/THUMS_Islands#:~:text=The%20THUMS%20Islands%20are%20a,the%20East%20Wilmington%20Oil%20Field

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