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mmc4587

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Dude,

It is waaay easier to just install everything from scratch (which the person who installed your MOBO did not do, most likely) after re-formatting your hard drive, than to do all this other stuff you have done.

Here is the deal.

(1) get out your MOBO (motherboard) manual, and find out how to set your BIOS to factory default settings... and do it.

(2)Change your BIOS settings to boot from your cd/dvd drive 1st, and your hard drive 2nd.

save changes, insert your windows cd, reboot.



(3)re-install windows... it may sound scary but it is really very simple, just make sure you have your windows authenticity code before you start, and back up all your important data first.

Do a clean install (do not choose repair)
then choose "let me pick where to install windows".. it will take you to a screen with available drives to install on. One will most likely be labeled C: WINDOWS something ... delete this partition. and there will be just a empty partition in it's place. Choose to create a partition, accept the default ranges (maximum ranges) and you now have a clean partition to install to and windows will automatically ask you to format it. (quick format ntfs). The rest should be cake.

(4)Install the drivers for your monitor, motherboard, Video card, etc.. and your software.

(5)now install your games and see how everything runs.
I betcha it will all work great.

9x out of 10, re-installing your os will fix any problems you have.

(A) your page file problems didn't start till you started messing with that stuff, this isn't the problem. Reinstalling windows will fix this (just don't mess with it again).
(B) your computer freezes, it doesn't automatically reboot itself- so it isn't a RAM issue.
(C)You have described the problem as a function of time. Which points to 1.. overheating, or 2... not enough electricity.

*Do not touch anything inside your case while wearing static prone clothing, or while the pc is plugged in.*
1... make sure that all fans are working properly (they are all spinning). Gently remove excess dust from the inside of your case, use a vaccume if you need to. Pay particular attention to your PSU (Power supply)
2... make sure everything is plugged in securely, loose connections can increase heat.

----MY GUT INSTINCT------
I would bet that your old PSU does not have the juice to run your new beefier and upgraded system. Power SUpplies (PSUs) age... what was a 350watt PSU 5years ago may only be able to supply 80% of that now.

If your PSU is the problem here is what would happen. Your computer runs fine when running 80% or less, but when running over 80% your system heats up, (causing electrical resistance) which slowly increases power untill your PSU is over taxed, something quits for lack of amperage (typically your cpu or gpu whichever is most power hungry), and your computer freezes.
Here is the link to a PSU wattage calculator:
http://educations.newegg.com/tool/psucalc/index.html
keep in mind that PSU's age, and although their peak power may not change, their sustained power rates definately will.

hope this helps


Oh and if you want to check your memory use "memtest.exe" http://www.softpedia.com/get/T...ry-Tweak/MemTest.shtml and if you want to check your hard drive, just right click on it in the "my computer" window and select properties. naviate to the "tools" tab and select "check now" which will check your hardrive for errors.

 

Copilot

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I know how to reformat my harddrive, I just don't want to, I have too much important stuff on my harddrive to reformat it right now, until I buy a new harddrive I will not be reformatting.

I did that PSU wattage calculator, it tells me I need 306W, my psu is a 450, so I am pretty sure that is good. And my PSU isn't even close to being 5 years old, its only a year and a half old.
 

dclive

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Just so everyone knows, the http://educations.newegg.com/tool/psucalc/index.html Newegg power supply calculator is a marketing tool designed to get you to buy a PSU that you don't need. I ran my system thru it (Acer quad core, standard setup, with 8800GTS, 3 HDDs, 1 ODD, 6GB RAM, Vista64) and it says I need 734W. That's pure comedy. It shipped with a 300W PSU, and KillAWatt tells me I'm using about 220-250W on the thing.

Don't buy into the hype!
 

Copilot

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Yes I manually tested the PSU, all the rails are running fine, better than they are suppose to, we already went over that at the start of this page though.
 

Copilot

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Revision? You mean the BIOS revision? If so its 0406

Readings from the PSU were posted on page 4.
 

dclive

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If the CPU spikes, to me that looks like a software issue. Run process explorer (sysinternals) and see what the task is (or service) that doing that. I assume you've removed all third-party kernel drivers, including AV?
 

Copilot

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I don't know what third-party kernel drivers are.

If you want to know what the task that is producing the big spikes its DPCs

 

dclive

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DPCs are deferred procedure calls, so that's driver related. Remove all third party kernel drivers (Alcohol 120% type stuff, AV type stuff, etc.) unless you require it for your hardware (like, say, nVidia drivers).

Does the problem continue?


 

Copilot

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I don't have alcohol 120 but I do have daemon tools should I remove that? I also have no anti virus, I just use the trend micro internet one.
 

dclive

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Remove ALL third party kernel drivers (Alcohol 120% type stuff, AV type stuff, etc.) unless you require it for your hardware (like, say, nVidia drivers).

 

dclive

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So you have no third party drivers (Daemon tools, etc.) installed anymore, and it still happens? Run mpsreports again and send it to me please.
 

dclive

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ATITool Driver oem179.inf FALSE W1zzard
ATK0110 ACPI UTILITY oem1.inf FALSE ATK

I suggest getting rid of both of these drivers. Neither are signed; one is an ATI tool of some sort and the other Asus AI drivers. Also remove iTunes, RivaTuner.

Am I right in reading no hotfixes have been installed since Feb 2006?

If you remove Cool & Quiet does anything change?
 

Copilot

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What wrong with itunes? I need it for my ipod.

I got rid of ATItool, someone told me to download it to see my temps, same with rivatuner.

By hotfixes do you mean windows xp hotfixes?

I will try removing cool and quiet and see what it does.

How do I find "ATK0110 ACPI UTILITY oem1.inf FALSE ATK " to uninstall?
 

dclive

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These are all drivers; it's speculation on what the problem is - I'm just asking that you remove third party drivers to try to arrive at the problem.

Yes, I mean XP hotfixes.

ATK0110, per a 10 second search in google, looks like Asus motherboard drivers.
 

Copilot

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I dont see that exact one there, the only one I see is

"windows driver package - advanced micro devices (AmdK8) Processor"

So the only driver I uninstalled was "dual core optimizer" that I downloaded from the amd website, it still happens.
 

dclive

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It's a question of removing drivers and services until you find the problem. MSCONFIG will do it, and (also) removing the driver directly.
 

Copilot

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Itunes is gone.

If the hotfixe's are updated via automatic updates then I dont think I can since my xp isn't genuine.