Sticky situation involving my present girlfriend.

fataIerror

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Here is the situation....

I've been in a relationship with a woman for about two months. We have not had sex yet (only kissing/fondling/cuddling). The problem that is going to arise is my fear of her sexual past. She has been married once. She is 21, I am 22. She was married when she was 18. She has two children out of her first marriage. I have never been married. She has been ALOT more sexually active than I have. I have only been with one other woman sexually. And I was with that woman for four years. By ALOT I mean about 10 people. I want her to be tested for HIV/STD's before I do sleep with her. I feel I owe it to myself to have her do that, to protect my health. Right now she is on norplant so I'm not worried about pregnancy.

She is a very nice girl. She was raised in a good household. She had a brother who was a little younger than her. He died from being shot while hunting and her life fell apart. She married her first husband and he beat her and she was dumb enough to stay with him. She got into methamphetamines and a few other drugs (she's been off drugs for 2 years). She cheated on him while she was with him too. After she divorced her husband she met another guy who only used her for sex, he proposed to her and then told her that he didn't care about her anymore.

[Here is where I come in]

So after this she decides to straighten her life out. She applies to the place that I work under my department. I was her trainer. At first there was nothing between us, strictly business. We started training on a monday and the wednesday of that week I found out that she had shot herself hunting (yes horrible coincidence concidering her brother died the same way). I do care alot about my trainees and their future so I bought her a nice boquet of flowers and took it to her. I talked to her for about 2 hours till it was time for me to go back to training the class that she used to be in. Two to three weeks past and out of the blue I get a call and it's her. It shocked me at first. She said that she had always been interested in getting to know me and would like to get to know me further. I agreed to get to know her better because I was single at the time. She has been really straightforward with me about everything. She told me that she cheated on her husband (out of revenge she said, I told her that was still wrong and she agreed). She wants to straighten out her life and I'm a forgiving person by nature. She's always had really bad luck with guys and she always says that she's glad she met me. I do feel that I can trust her just because of all the things that she has been through and she wants to change. And yes I believe her when she says that she wants to change. She's studying to be a child psychologist (She's been through about everything they go through, so it would be a good field for her). She had to have her leg amputated from the knee down when she shot herself. She just had the remainder of the stitches taken out today. She will have a prosthetic leg as soon as the leg is completely healed. She is a gorgeous woman and none of this means anything to me if she honestly wants to make everything right and loves me.

I really do like this woman. And I want to help her correct everything that was wrong in the past with her life. And if she's willing to change I would adopt her kids as my own. I'm not in a rush to jump into anything by any means and I've told her that. Another important thing to add is that her first husband and her divorced because when she got pregnant with her son he told her that she would abort the baby or he would kill her. So she divorced him and moved away from him. *Edit* The father has NEVER saw his son. He has saw his daughter a few times but not within the last year or so. He doesn't pay child support so she is completely on her own. Right now she is living with her parents (who thankfully are really supportive of her throughout everything she has been through).

All being said I need to know how to tell her that I would like her to be tested for STD's/HIV. This is going to be a REALLY sensitive subject somewhere in the near future. My sexual past has only included one woman who was a virgin when I met her (at age 14) so I'm quite sure I'm safe.

So what do I do? Do I...

A) Tell her that I would like her to be tested and hope that she understands?
B) Tell her that both of us should be tested even though I know that I'm safe?

I've been going back and forth with this for a while. Just thought I would get some other people's opinions on it before I make a final decision. I'm going to try to get some professional opinions on this as well.

If you have any questions about the relationship so far that I've left out feel free to ask.

Thanks in advance for any advice,
Joshua


P.S Please don't make comments like..

"Yikes. You're gonna get burned. This woman has serious problems and you want to be the knight in shining armor? If I were you I'd forget about her."

Even though it is advice it's not the type I'm looking for, I've already stated I've forgiven this woman for her past.
 

BoberFett

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Yikes. You're gonna get burned. This woman has serious problems and you want to be the knight in shining armor? If I were you I'd forget about her.
 

fataIerror

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Please refrain from comments like that. They don't help at all and it's not the type of advice I'm looking for.

I've already said I'm a forgiving person and willing to give her a second chance. People do change you know?

If I see that she is not going to change and is going down the same path then I will make that decision.
 

amnesiac

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When you talk about having sex, tell her that you think it would be a good idea if both of you went to the clinic and got tested together. That way you're not pointing the finger at her or anything.
 

Emulex

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its more polite to nail her first with a rubber a few times then discuss tests to take the next step.

 

amnesiac

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<< I've already said I'm a forgiving person and willing to give her a second chance. People do change you know? >>



I'm glad to see others who have this philosophy and aren't so quick to dismiss people as creatures of habit. Yes, I guess there is potential for being burned -- I've been there myself -- but everyone gets equal chance at my trust and love no matter what their past. I know that I've made mistakes and been less than perfect and I would expect a chance at redemption from others as well.
 

UberNeuman

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If she gets her blood tested are you going with her to the Doctor for the test. Are you going ask to see the results?

Or are you going to take her word on it?

If you're going to take her word, she could lie to you about it....

Do you trust this woman or not?
 

Geekbabe

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B- you both get tested together, if negative, you still use condoms, you then retert at 6 months and again at 1 yr.. condoms are the law till after that last retest, because for HIV the tests are only going to tell you basically what the story was 6 months ago.
 

grr8scott

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B) Tell her that both of us should be tested even though I know that I'm safe?

Is a good compromise to the situation. Even though she probably wont know you are compromising... :)
 

skace

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I think you should both get tested, fataIerror. It sounds pretty stuck up to say, "you should get tested but I KNOW I'm good even though I've never been tested". Even if you don't word it that way, it will sound rude. But if you say something along the line of "I really like the way this relationship is going, but I would feel 10x better if we both got tested, just to get it out of the way".

Freaking shame she shot herself after what happened to her brother. What the heck was she doing with the rifle to shoot her own leg? (Not a hunter so I don't know if this is common?)

Sometimes it makes you wonder how many screwed up people are out there, when every other time a relationship comes up you hear about people getting physically abused or even threatened to be killed. All my friends talked about this awhile back and we came up with the consensus that who the hell would threaten to kill their wife? If it isn't too much info... mind if I ask where you live? I'm sort of curious where these things happen.

Oh yea, and treat her good fata :). Looks like she hasn't had much good luck in her life.
 

SpecialEd

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watch out for the Chlamydia test... they stick a piece of wood up your peep hole.... it hurts!!
 

Azraele

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I think you should both be tested so she doesn't feel like she's being singled out.
 

FettsBabe

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Its nice that you are forgiving, but you yourself are worried about your own life. She needs to get tested and you should see the results. Drugs, Sex, Drinking, etc. she sounds like she was a party girl. Be safe, both of you get tested and after 1 year you can depart from the rubber. I know I sound like a tv ad, but I would NOT sleep with her until after that last test. Rubbers bust, etc. By then, its to late.

Be careful.
 

ericb

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Choice B of course. And make sure you ask for the FULL range of tests...a normal STD check usually skips over a number of other tests for less common diseases. And she is very high risk with high risk partners so use other protection until the final HIV test.
 

fataIerror

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Thanks everyone for the advice, I will take it to heart. It seems the majority of the responses were for option B. That is the option that I thought was best as well. I talked to a close friend today and she gave me some advice on how to pose the statement (break the ice).
 

Ameesh

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what a dumba$$!!! youd think she wouldnt go hunting again or even go near guns after her retard brother died in a huntin' accident



bah! your askin for it. your gonna get burned but to answer your question do B beause if you dont do it what right do you have to ask her regardless of your past.
 

Stark

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"Yikes. You're gonna get burned. This woman has serious problems and you want to be the knight in shining armor? If I were you I'd forget about her."

She's 21 and has screwed 10 guys? And she was married for part of the time since she was 18? And a former druggie? And she has two kids (and has been screwing around and taking drugs instead of raising them)?

I'm still trying to see the bright side here... she honestly does not need a man in her life right now. You're not going to fix her. She needs to either give up her two kids or start acting like a mother (not a single woman on the dating scene).

You know what you're getting into and sound like you're not going to let rational common sense stop you. You're too worried about getting laid. Good luck anyways. :eek: