Rant Stevia, why haven't this been more availble?

[Muse]

it tastes so gross, id rather drink water then anything sweetened with artificial sugar.

Hey, stevia doesn't taste as good as sugar. Which seems to be true of all "artificial" sweeteners. But sugar's bad for you, it gets complicated why and how much and for who, all that stuff, do your homework.

I have stevia. I use it some, not a lot. You can overdo it. Again, do your homework. I use it less than I used to. I buy it in pretty large quantities off Amazon, read the reviews. Store in the fridge. Have a tiny bottle outside the fridge that I've been working on literally for a couple years. I don't sweeten my coffee 90% of the time. Put a tiny bit in my tea, I mean probably 1/10th of a 1/4 teaspoon.

Screw added sugar. Many ingredients have intrinsic sweetness. Why add sugar? I grow tomatoes and kabocha squash. If well grown, they are nice and sweet! My tomato sauces are quite sweet, people might think I add sugar but I don't. My stews made with kabocha are sweet ... enough.

 

[Muse]

But still full of calories. Use Blackstrap Molasses. The strong taste will keep you from consuming too much of it.

Molasses - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The first time I tasted blackstrap molasses was the first time I visited the town I live in. Never forget... Someone put it on pancakes and served it to me. It was horrible! I add a tablespoon to my dough when I make my whole wheat bread. In there it's OK. I also add sugar to that dough. Helps the yeast grow. The bread doesn't taste sweet like cake or anything, I add it to please the yeast.

 

[Kaido]

Hey, stevia doesn't taste as good as sugar. Which seems to be true of all "artificial" sweeteners. But sugar's bad for you, it gets complicated why and how much and for who, all that stuff, do your homework.

I have stevia. I use it some, not a lot. You can overdo it. Again, do your homework. I use it less than I used to. I buy it in pretty large quantities off Amazon, read the reviews. Store in the fridge. Have a tiny bottle outside the fridge that I've been working on literally for a couple years. I don't sweeten my coffee 90% of the time. Put a tiny bit in my tea, I mean probably 1/10th of a 1/4 teaspoon.

Screw added sugar. Many ingredients have intrinsic sweetness. Why add sugar? I grow tomatoes and kabocha squash. If well grown, they are nice and sweet! My tomato sauces are quite sweet, people might think I add sugar but I don't. My stews made with kabocha are sweet ... enough.

The bottom line is that flavor, not "healthy", always wins for consumers. Nobody wants to check the added sugar levels in foods. The latest statistics say that the average American consumes 17 teaspoons (85 grams) of added sugar a day, which is double what the AHA recommends. That's basically like drinking a Fanta every day, haha!

Speaking of flavor always winning, SuperSize Me 2: Holy Chicken is one of the best documentaries I've seen in years, and it's available free on Youtube now - definitely worth a watch to see the fast-food process in action!

 

[whm1974]

The first time I tasted blackstrap molasses was the first time I visited the town I live in. Never forget... Someone put it on pancakes and served it to me. It was horrible! I add a tablespoon to my dough when I make my whole wheat bread. In there it's OK. I also add sugar to that dough. Helps the yeast grow. The bread doesn't taste sweet like cake or anything, I add it to please the yeast.

Strange as this may sound, Blackstrap Molasses was actually more popular then white sugar asince it is a waste product of processing Sugar Cane and since not all of the molasses was used to produce Rum it was cheap, much cheaper.

 

[aigomorla]

Coke Life.... it tastes very simular to regular coke, but its not unbearable for people who do not like coke zero, and diet coke.

OP another great sweetener for stage 2 is also Monk Fruit Sweetener.

Amazon.com : monkfruit sweeteners

Monk Fruit Sweetener: Good or Bad?

Monk fruit sweetener contains no calories and may provide various health benefits. This article explains what it is and whether you should try it.

www.healthline.com

 

[whm1974]

Coke Life.... it tastes very simular to regular coke, but its not unbearable for people who do not like coke zero, and diet coke.

OP another great sweetener for stage 2 is also Monk Fruit Sweetener.

Amazon.com : monkfruit sweeteners

Monk Fruit Sweetener: Good or Bad?

Monk fruit sweetener contains no calories and may provide various health benefits. This article explains what it is and whether you should try it.

www.healthline.com

Since Stevia is what, 200 times sweeter than cane sugar, why in Hell would anyone use both to sweeten soda or anything else?

Speaking of Stevia, one of the other residents has an actual Stevia plant in her apartment her friend or relative gave her and told me that she just snip off leaves to use as needed.

So if I did the same thing, how do I use the properly?

 

[snoopy7548]

Every morning in order to get going I need to slam a spoonful of juice from the inside of Gushers and snort two fat lines of Pixy Stix. These days that only seems to get me a buzz considering I tend to wake up in the middle of the night and, with a throbbing headache and shaking hands, dissolve a couple of Smarties tablets in a glass of Mountain Dew, straight up, and down it.

You fucking squares and your artificial sweeteners. You don't know real sugar until you've had the good stuff. Call me when you've sucked dick in a back alley for just one lick of a Fun Dip.

 

[balloonshark]

Now Stevia is my favorite noncaloric sweeten as I notice no aftertaste at all and the fact I'm Type 2 Diabetic. So far I have only used this in my coffee and plain oatmeal, and hot dark chocolate. Of course I'm looking for other foods to use this in as well.

Considering that Stevia is widely used in some South America counties well before the first white dudes showed up there and that Japan has been using this for many decades, I am highly surprised that the FDA still hasn't approved GRAS status. What is the hold up?

Have you tried using half of a banana to sweeten your oatmeal? I've been using half a banana to sweeten 1/2 cup of old fashioned oats every day for well over two years and I can't imagine wanting to add a sweetener. I'm not diabetic but the fiber in the oats should slow down the absorbtion of the sugar in the banana. It's worth trying unless you don't like bananas.

 

[whm1974]

Every morning in order to get going I need to slam a spoonful of juice from the inside of Gushers and snort two fat lines of Pixy Stix. These days that only seems to get me a buzz considering I tend to wake up in the middle of the night and, with a throbbing headache and shaking hands, dissolve a couple of Smarties tablets in a glass of Mountain Dew, straight up, and down it.

You fucking squares and your artificial sweeteners. You don't know real sugar until you've had the good stuff. Call me when you've sucked dick in a back alley for just one lick of a Fun Dip.

You nasty dude!!! Stop being fucking disgusting. Are you even ashamed of yourself?

 

[whm1974]

Have you tried using half of a banana to sweeten your oatmeal? I've been using half a banana to sweeten 1/2 cup of old fashioned oats every day for well over two years and I can't imagine wanting to add a sweetener. I'm not diabetic but the fiber in the oats should slow down the absorbtion of the sugar in the banana. It's worth trying unless you don't like bananas.

Yes actually. Both when I was a kid and in my teens nearly everyday, and a few times this year.

 

[Muse]

Rant? "Not available?"

I first heard about stevia when visiting my cousin and her husband in 2013. I made my first online order then and have always had a supply ever since. Of course, the food industry doesn't want you to be particularly sophisticated concerning good nutrition. They want to sell you food, preferably food you have no qualms about. Therefore the media (who are more or less servants of their advertisers, at least in part) aren't going to harp on substitutes for sugar, corn syrup, etc. etc. You might see/hear a story or two. It's best to do your own research. There's a ton online, of course.

 

[whm1974]

Rant? "Not available?"

I first heard about stevia when visiting my cousin and her husband in 2013. I made my first online order then and have always had a supply ever since. Of course, the food industry doesn't want you to be particularly sophisticated concerning good nutrition. They want to sell you food, preferably food you have no qualms about. Therefore the media (who are more or less servants of their advertisers, at least in part) aren't going to harp on substitutes for sugar, corn syrup, etc. etc. You might see/hear a story or two. It's best to do your own research. There's a ton online, of course.

Seriously??? Muse you are factually wrong. Nearly Mass Media website I have look at have articles on several natural noncaloric sweeteners including Monkfruit extract and Stevia as well others. This is coulding larger YouTube channels.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Being a type 1 diabetic and knoweing quite a few Dieticans and Endocrinologits -- what i will tell you is the jury ia atill as to whether artifical sweeteners are better than sugar or worse than sugar!
It would see they all have their drawbacks! But IMO what the main drawback besides the aftertaste is that your body does not process these artificial sweeteners the same as say sugar or brown sugar!
Even thoigh I mush prefer reglar sugar , I always have a diet soda if I am craving something that has bubbles!
But as with every other kind of food it all boils down to what do you like.....

 

[JEDIYoda]

The first time I tasted blackstrap molasses was the first time I visited the town I live in. Never forget... Someone put it on pancakes and served it to me. It was horrible! I add a tablespoon to my dough when I make my whole wheat bread. In there it's OK. I also add sugar to that dough. Helps the yeast grow. The bread doesn't taste sweet like cake or anything, I add it to please the yeast.

molasses is good if you make your own breads! On occasion I like to make home made bread and molasses is always used!

 

[PlanetJosh]

If it has less questionable chemicals than the Equal I use now I'm all for it, if it tastes as good. For my palate that is.

 

[Captante]

Seriously??? Muse you are factually wrong. Nearly Mass Media website I have look at have articles on several natural noncaloric sweeteners including Monkfruit extract and Stevia as well others. This is coulding larger YouTube channels.

Finding information about artificial sweeteners is easy if you arn't all that particular about the source or its accuracy. Most of what the "media" spews out about them, positive or negative is in fact motivated by big-dollar advertising interests.

You nasty dude!!! Stop being fucking disgusting. Are you even ashamed of yourself?

Upset your delicate sensibillity?

 

[Muse]

Seriously??? Muse you are factually wrong. Nearly Mass Media website I have look at have articles on several natural noncaloric sweeteners including Monkfruit extract and Stevia as well others. This is coulding larger YouTube channels.

Can you possibly translate this into intelligible English? I can't make any sense out of it. Besides, there was nothing that was not factually irrefutable in my post that you shit your pants over.

 

[snoopy7548]

Have you tried using half of a banana to sweeten your oatmeal? I've been using half a banana to sweeten 1/2 cup of old fashioned oats every day for well over two years and I can't imagine wanting to add a sweetener. I'm not diabetic but the fiber in the oats should slow down the absorbtion of the sugar in the banana. It's worth trying unless you don't like bananas.

I always add about a teaspoon of honey, and also put some banana and blueberries in my oatmeal.

 

[balloonshark]

I always add about a teaspoon of honey, and also put some banana and blueberries in my oatmeal.

I guess I should have mentioned I smash up the banana first. It's even quicker to throw two bananas in the blender, add milk and chia seeds (optional) and blend a bit. Then I add 1/2 cup old fashioned oats and 1 Tbsp ground flax seeds (optional) to 4 containers, add the blended mixture and stir. I also add mixed berries and refrigerate the other 3 servings for the upcoming days.

Sometimes I don't even warm up the oats when I prepare them that day. I prepare as described above and eat it like just cereal. I got the idea from the Esselstyn's.

 

[snoopy7548]

I guess I should have mentioned I smash up the banana first. It's even quicker to throw two bananas in the blender, add milk and chia seeds (optional) and blend a bit. Then I add 1/2 cup old fashioned oats and 1 Tbsp ground flax seeds (optional) to 4 containers, add the blended mixture and stir. I also add mixed berries and refrigerate the other 3 servings for the upcoming days.

Sometimes I don't even warm up the oats when I prepare them that day. I prepare as described above and eat it like just cereal. I got the idea from the Esselstyn's.

I never thought about mashing up the banana first. I might have to try that.

 

[Muse]

The mere photograph of a can of Coca Cola disgusts me, to be honest.

 

[Captante]

The mere photograph of a can of Coca Cola disgusts me, to be honest.

I tried a can of that stuff awhile back ... was about as good as that puke-green can looks like it would be.