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steve jobs stanford commencement address

exactly... he'll take every chance he gets to cheap-shot microsoft

edit: thats not to say i didnt enjoy the speech... very good advice
 
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Uh..he never once said anything about Bill or Microsoft in that speech.

Fvcking dipsh!ts.
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"And since Windows just copied the Mac, its likely that no personal computer would have them. If I had never dropped out, I would have never dropped in on this calligraphy class, and personal computers might not have the wonderful typography that they do"


 
I am honored to be with you today at your coMmencement from one of the fInest universities in the world. I never graduated from College. TRuth be tOld, this iS the closest I've ever gotten to a college graduation. TOday I want to tell you three stories from my liFe. That's it. No big deal. Just three stories.
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He did say Microsoft! :Q
 
It was an interesting read. I'm not suprised about the MS bashing. Though wasn't the Mac OS a ripoff of Xerox's OS? If so isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?
 
Originally posted by: Freejack2
It was an interesting read. I'm not suprised about the MS bashing. Though wasn't the Mac OS a ripoff of Xerox's OS? If so isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?
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It doesn't even matter. Everythig is ripped off from something else today.
 
Originally posted by: Freejack2
It was an interesting read. I'm not suprised about the MS bashing. Though wasn't the Mac OS a ripoff of Xerox's OS? If so isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?
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I also thought it was a good read... and yes, I thought Mac took the design from Xerox aas well.
 
Originally posted by: Stefan
Originally posted by: Freejack2
It was an interesting read. I'm not suprised about the MS bashing. Though wasn't the Mac OS a ripoff of Xerox's OS? If so isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?
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I also thought it was a good read... and yes, I thought Mac took the design from Xerox aas well.
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i dunno about design, but basically the whole idea of a GUI came from PARC

i don't really consider this bashing... its just stating the facts? i guess we'd have to hear his tone of voice.
 
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Uh..he never once said anything about Bill or Microsoft in that speech.

Fvcking dipsh!ts.
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"And since Windows just copied the Mac, its likely that no personal computer would have them. If I had never dropped out, I would have never dropped in on this calligraphy class, and personal computers might not have the wonderful typography that they do"
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heh, the irony

i did read the whole article
 
Originally posted by: dugweb
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Uh..he never once said anything about Bill or Microsoft in that speech.

Fvcking dipsh!ts.
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"And since Windows just copied the Mac, its likely that no personal computer would have them. If I had never dropped out, I would have never dropped in on this calligraphy class, and personal computers might not have the wonderful typography that they do"
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heh, the irony

i did read the whole article
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heh i was going to comment "what about the windows crack about just copying mac's beautiful typography..." but i see no need 😀
 
There were a lot of players back then that were playing with GUI's. Contemperaneous with the Mac was the Amiga and Atari 520. Both these systems ran on Motorola 68000 CPUs and both used GUI's as well. Amiga used one they designed and Atari used Digital Research's GEM.

I am not a big Steve Jobs fan but that was a pretty good speech to read. Not the same cookie cutter stuff a lot of graduation addresses seem to be.
 
Fortune asks Jobs in '97 or '98 (I don't have the specific date): Do you ever think you may be getting a little conservative in your old age?

Jobs' response:
One of my role models is Bob Dylan. As I grew up, I learned the lyrics to all his songs and watched him never stand still. If you look at the artists, if they get really good, it always occurs to them at some point that they can do this one thing for the rest of their lives, and they can be really successful to the outside world but not really be successful to themselves. That's the moment that an artist really decides who he or she is. If they keep risking failure, they're still artists. Dylan and Picasso were always risking failure.
This Apple thing is that way for me. I don't want to fail, of course. But even though I didn't know how bad things really were, I still had a lot to think about before I said yes. I had to consider the implications for Pixar, for my family, for my reputation. I decided that I didn't really care, because this is what I want to do. If I try my best and fail, well, I tried my best.
What makes you become conservative is realizing that you have something to lose. Remember The Whole Earth Catalog? The last edition had a photo on the back cover of a remote country road you might find yourself on while hitchhiking up to Oregon. It was a beautiful shot, and it had a caption that really grabbed me. It said: "Stay hungry. Stay foolish." It wasn't an ad for anything -- just one of Stewart Brand's profound statements. It's wisdom. "Stay hungry. Stay foolish."
 
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Fortune asks Jobs in '97 or '98 (I don't have the specific date): Do you ever think you may be getting a little conservative in your old age?

Jobs' response:
One of my role models is Bob Dylan. As I grew up, I learned the lyrics to all his songs and watched him never stand still. If you look at the artists, if they get really good, it always occurs to them at some point that they can do this one thing for the rest of their lives, and they can be really successful to the outside world but not really be successful to themselves. That's the moment that an artist really decides who he or she is. If they keep risking failure, they're still artists. Dylan and Picasso were always risking failure.
This Apple thing is that way for me. I don't want to fail, of course. But even though I didn't know how bad things really were, I still had a lot to think about before I said yes. I had to consider the implications for Pixar, for my family, for my reputation. I decided that I didn't really care, because this is what I want to do. If I try my best and fail, well, I tried my best.
What makes you become conservative is realizing that you have something to lose. Remember The Whole Earth Catalog? The last edition had a photo on the back cover of a remote country road you might find yourself on while hitchhiking up to Oregon. It was a beautiful shot, and it had a caption that really grabbed me. It said: "Stay hungry. Stay foolish." It wasn't an ad for anything -- just one of Stewart Brand's profound statements. It's wisdom. "Stay hungry. Stay foolish."
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haha interesting... well, at least he ripped only himself off, unlike that history prof recently
 
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