Steve Jobs making his UFO in cupertino, shows city council:D

[Dubb]

What do you meant throw functional buildings into the landfill? I thought the land they are building on is mostly empty.

As for Infinite Loop, they are said to be keeping it and will still be using it after the new building opens. There was talk of linking the two by tunnel but doubt that ever goes anywhere.

look at the early slides he shows or google maps. It's mostly an existing HP campus and associated parking lots.

 

[0roo0roo]

I'm not sure you've understood what I've been saying; or at least not in similar context or scale. It may simply be a misreading of similar terms or I-don't-know-what. I also think you're broadly generalizing what is really a very economically diverse group of people (those who live in cities) and obsessing over present conditions rather than potential (and demonstrable) conditions.

I'd suggest reading some of the ULI publications, or maybe one of Alan Berger's books.



Which is exactly the sort of situation many planners are trying to avoid; people feeling like they're "stuck at work" because they have so few options in a cloistered campus.

Consider this: Jobs said that currently they're renting space all over the city to house the workers that will eventually wind up working in the spaceship. I'm assuming that most of this rented space is in urban areas where a range of retail and restaurants is close by.

How are they going to feel when suddenly the only practical option is the company cafeteria?

You are trying to impose an impractical fantasy on a company that needs people centralized in a location. Like it or not no office block is going to be "integrated" into a community, that is a fantasy of a company town, people just don't live that close to work anymore especially in california unless you are damned lucky or well off. This isn't manhatten, there is no density to speak of to make walking to lunch a practical reality for any significant portion of company workers.

 

[Dubb]

You are trying to impose an impractical fantasy on a company that needs people centralized in a location. Like it or not no office block is going to be "integrated" into a community, that is a fantasy of a company town, people just don't live that close to work anymore especially in california unless you are damned lucky or well off. This isn't manhatten, there is no density to speak of to make walking to lunch a practical reality for any significant portion of company workers.

I'm not sure what to say at this point. Half the time you're using examples of exactly what I'm saying doesn't work as examples of why I'm wrong.

What I'm talking about is not pulled from thin air. This stuff is happening and successful across a range of built typologies. And I'm really confused as to how you keep describing things as singular conditions or singular events. To me it's like saying that all soft drinks only come in one size, despite there being clearly different sizes on the shelf.

I find it baffling that you so roundly reject the existence of any broader context in any of this.

I poked around cupertino in google maps / street view. In the few miles around apple's campus(es), there's a ton of single family housing, a number of apartment complexes or buildings (there's even one on the same damn block of property that apple's going to be building on).

Around the new campus I found 8-12 restaurants (some might be shops) that require little more than crossing the street. It's not unreasonable to say that more would open up if there were demand.

The urban fabric isn't great but it's far from terrible. Sidewalks and medians need some work if they want them to be pedestrian friendly. A few too many streetfront parking lots. All in all it looks like your average capacity stretched semi-suburban area...which just happens to be when urban forms start to emerge...(this is where the potential stuff pops up)

All I'm arguing is that apple's master plan should be about framework and connections. They've got a real opportunity and they don't seem to be keen on taking it.

 

[ProfJohn]

With all the trees and walk ways that is going to be a great place to work. Especially for a creative company like Apple.

 

[Scouzer]

Check this out.

http://www.cupertino.org/Modules/ShowDocument.aspx?documentid=4676

LOL what's with the render chick supposed to be doing on page 14? Monkey dancing? hahah

 

[quikah]

Consider this: Jobs said that currently they're renting space all over the city to house the workers that will eventually wind up working in the spaceship. I'm assuming that most of this rented space is in urban areas where a range of retail and restaurants is close by.

Most of the rented space is in Cupertino, there are a bunch of apple buildings up and down DeAnza which is just off Inifinite Loop. It is not urban by any stretch.

 

[Bacstar]

It's going to be a tourist attraction. I envision all the Apple fanatics rubbing their noses up against the glass trying to catch a peak at Steve Jobs latest creation, like a giant fishbowl, or the Mac faithful camping out in all that landscaping hugging trees and smoking pot...kinda like what happens up here in Girdwood, AK during the Forest Fair.

On a serious note, that's going to be a lot of glass in a very geologically active area. I wonder how that place would handle a good size earthquake.

 

[0roo0roo]

Most of the rented space is in Cupertino, there are a bunch of apple buildings up and down DeAnza which is just off Inifinite Loop. It is not urban by any stretch.

Yea he's never been there that is quite clear.

He doesn't understand the bay area.

Even places like cisco campus have very few people walking to lunch. There are like huge asian malls filled with restaurants near by, but it has nothing to do with cisco or the rest of the tech companies, they had no direct intervention in making these places. The workers go to lunch plenty, but they take their cars, that is california. This is organic development, a need is filled, not forced by some city planner who wants to create some utopian bs..which has always failed in the past.

 

[fire400]

The Office Providers:
"Could help them get into the iCloud"

lol

 

[0roo0roo]

http://gizmodo.com/5810723/apples-new-mothership-compared-to-the-rest-of-spaceships-around-the-world

the others..

 

[Fritzo]

It's also built on top of a volcano.