Steve Bannon: Liberal, Ladies Man, BMOC

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Did you know he was one of the founding members of Steely Dan prior to his stint with the Doobies? Bet you'd never guess what he does now..........


Defense consultant.
SHUT UP!!
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Did you know he was one of the founding members of Steely Dan prior to his stint with the Doobies? Bet you'd never guess what he does now..........


Defense consultant.

A) Yeah, I did.

B) That I did not know. But he's still doing some session work with various artists it seems.
 

agent00f

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I think he is still a liberal on economic policy, a national socialist. Look at how much Breitbart is trashing the Ryan plan.

"National socialism" is more a historical quirk of how hitler rose to power than much to do with socialism per se. The general fascist economic plan was to run government (or anything else) like a corporation in top-down dictatorial sense.
 

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"National socialism" is more a historical quirk of how hitler rose to power than much to do with socialism per se. The general fascist economic plan was to run government (or anything else) like a corporation in top-down dictatorial sense.
I think Bannon is more than fine with big government programs (socialism) for "deserving" populations (nationalism). I don't think he buys into the free market pre-Trump Republican dogma at all, and thinks that it's Trump's responsibility, or at least interest, to take care of his supporters through direct government involvement.
 

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Saw The Grateful Dead and Blondie at Winterland, not at the same time of course. Good shows, the Dead were better from what i can recall. Springsteen was even better though.

You can't compare a Dead live show to Springsteen. Bruce does the traditional high energy, kick out the jams and entertain the entire stadium THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT show. And, hey, he does it quite well.

But the Dead have always been a completely different animal. Their shows are a journey, and a reunion.

The difference is not un-akin to that between a really good, energetic wank (not to be preemptively dismissed, my friends) and a languorous night of long, slow love-making with a woman who really knows what she's doing. :cool:
 

agent00f

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I think Bannon is more than fine with big government programs (socialism) for "deserving" populations (nationalism). I don't think he buys into the free market pre-Trump Republican dogma at all, and thinks that it's Trump's responsibility, or at least interest, to take care of his supporters through direct government involvement.

That's literally the ye ol fascist approach of "big corp", with the gov directing industries like subsidiaries of some megacorp. Giant monopolistic corps aren't what the "free market" people envision, even if that's what inevitably result in absence of gubmint to break them up.

Socialism by definition means labor (ie "employee") ownership of industry, which can be confusing because it was never realized in most any of the countries that called themselves socialist. Basically the revolutionary leadership took control over industries and never divvied them up. Capitalist economies which use the term nowadays try to replicate socialism to a minor/indirect degree by providing social securities, as if presuming citizens "owned" some piece of society they can collect a dividend from.

Arguably the fascists also promised benefits to loyalists, but that's to instill loyalty to the fuhrer than any ideological design. Eg. vote trump and we'll send a chunk of that trillion dollar handout to your district.
 

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"National socialism" is more a historical quirk of how hitler rose to power than much to do with socialism per se. The general fascist economic plan was to run government (or anything else) like a corporation in top-down dictatorial sense.
Yup, with unions being not for the worker but rather organs of state control over . . . the means of production! <---- Pretentious, yes, but the most accurate term. :(

The hilarious thing is that big, unruly, pseudo-democratic America WAY more efficiently out-organized their means of production as compared to Nazi Germany, including but by no means confined to enlisting their wimmens and their "untermenschen" directly in the "arsenal of democracy" war effort.
 
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