Steroids Case: Bonds subpeonaed.

DrPizza

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Nahhh, I don't believe it. Bonds couldn't have used steroids! Most people his age are able to develop biceps the size of my thigh just from a regimen of working out and eating the proper foods.
 

UNCjigga

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Originally posted by: new2AMD
so was giambi
supposedly up to 50 athletes being subpoenaed. Wrongdoing wasn't entirely on their part...I believe the case deals with how this company they were affiliated with was using a derivative of a banned steroid that could pass the drug tests, and athletes were not informed it was derivative of a banned substance.

 

PlatinumGold

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ya. from what i heard on the radio this morning, it had to do with the money they invested in the company more than how they used. :)

but it could lead to some interesting info. :)
 

NeoV

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I would guess some of the athletes were informed.....

Did Bonds ever stop to think "why is my head twice the size it was 5 years ago?"

I can't wait to hear him try and explain this....

Bill Romanowski is also part of this mess....yea, it was the Bowflex, huh Romo?



The house of Bonds' personal trainer was also raided by the FBI.....


Giambi supposedly went there for information about nutritional supplements, but wasn't a regular customer.



These guys need to check with David Boston's trainer - I assure you he is using this stuff, or something similar.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Nahhh, I don't believe it. Bonds couldn't have used steroids! Most people his age are able to develop biceps the size of my thigh just from a regimen of working out and eating the proper foods.
LOL. Bonds has bulked up alot, unusually, as well as Sosa. Look at Sosa's rookie year baseball cards, it's hilarious, he looks like a twig. Of course it does take talent and reflexes to hit a round ball with a round bat, but being that much stronger = + opposite field homeruns.
 

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Nahhh, I don't believe it. Bonds couldn't have used steroids! Most people his age are able to develop biceps the size of my thigh just from a regimen of working out and eating the proper foods.
LOL. Bonds has bulked up alot, unusually, as well as Sosa. Look at Sosa's rookie year baseball cards, it's hilarious, he looks like a twig. Of course it does take talent and reflexes to hit a round ball with a round bat, but being that much stronger = + opposite field homeruns.

Same with manny ramirez.
 

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Nahhh, I don't believe it. Bonds couldn't have used steroids! Most people his age are able to develop biceps the size of my thigh just from a regimen of working out and eating the proper foods.
It's possible. I'm almost 50 and my body still responds to wieght training with proper nutrition just like it did when I was half my age (to bad my back doesn't). That said, when I first heard about these types of Steriods I immediately thought of Bonds and McGuire. Both have a similar build and both seem to have gotten better as they got older. Usually an Athletes skills diminish when they get older. I'll tell you one thing, Pedro Martinez needs to look into this so he can stop being such a puss and get some stamina!
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Francodman
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Nahhh, I don't believe it. Bonds couldn't have used steroids! Most people his age are able to develop biceps the size of my thigh just from a regimen of working out and eating the proper foods.
LOL. Bonds has bulked up alot, unusually, as well as Sosa. Look at Sosa's rookie year baseball cards, it's hilarious, he looks like a twig. Of course it does take talent and reflexes to hit a round ball with a round bat, but being that much stronger = + opposite field homeruns.

Same with manny ramirez.
Manny looks like he bulked up with Pizza!

 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Nahhh, I don't believe it. Bonds couldn't have used steroids! Most people his age are able to develop biceps the size of my thigh just from a regimen of working out and eating the proper foods.
It's possible. I'm almost 50 and my body still responds to wieght training with proper nutrition just like it did when I was half my age (to bad my back doesn't). That said, when I first heard about these types of Steriods I immediately thought of Bonds and McGuire. Both have a similar build and both seem to have gotten better as they got older. Usually an Athletes skills diminish when they get older. I'll tell you one thing, Pedro Martinez needs to look into this so he can stop being such a puss and get some stamina!
It's definitely possible to bulk up at any age. For example, I'm 26: 5 months ago was benching double my weight (before packing on more mass), and now leg press about 1K lbs (11 plates on each side, rep with 10) at 195 lbs. I only weighed 170 about 8 months ago. All 100% natural, but I'm taking 4 supplements (Creatine HSC, Glutamine, Whey Protein, Glucosamine). If you learn how to spike your insulin (using Dextrorotatory Glucose Crystals or foods with high GI levels) after working out you can put mass on in a hurry!

Science has definitely advanced in the field of bodybuilding. What products should be banned and what shouldn't be? I think if it's anything that is a hormone (any type), then it shouldn't be used. My reasoning is that there are definitive studies shown that many hormones will damage your body permanently. There is a fine line between supplements and hormones.

Pedro needs to bulk up his legs big time, and do pushups for his upperbody. He won't gain mass up top for arm speed, but can utilize more power from bigger legs.
 

kranky

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I'd be pretty happy if they prove Bonds took steroids and they wipe all his records off the books.
 

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Nahhh, I don't believe it. Bonds couldn't have used steroids! Most people his age are able to develop biceps the size of my thigh just from a regimen of working out and eating the proper foods.
It's possible. I'm almost 50 and my body still responds to wieght training with proper nutrition just like it did when I was half my age (to bad my back doesn't). That said, when I first heard about these types of Steriods I immediately thought of Bonds and McGuire. Both have a similar build and both seem to have gotten better as they got older. Usually an Athletes skills diminish when they get older. I'll tell you one thing, Pedro Martinez needs to look into this so he can stop being such a puss and get some stamina!
It's definitely possible to bulk up at any age. For example, I'm 26: 5 months ago was benching double my weight (before packing on more mass), and now leg press about 1K lbs (11 plates on each side, rep with 10) at 195 lbs. I only weighed 170 about 8 months ago. All 100% natural, but I'm taking 4 supplements (Creatine HSC, Glutamine, Whey Protein, Glucosamine). If you learn how to spike your insulin (using Dextrorotatory Glucose Crystals or foods with high GI levels) after working out you can put mass on in a hurry!

Science has definitely advanced in the field of bodybuilding. What products should be banned and what shouldn't be? I think if it's anything that is a hormone (any type), then it shouldn't be used. My reasoning is that there are definitive studies shown that many hormones will damage your body permanently. There is a fine line between supplements and hormones.

Pedro needs to bulk up his legs big time, and do pushups for his upperbody. He won't gain mass up top for arm speed, but can utilize more power from bigger legs.

There's a limit to how far you can go naturally. Let's face it. I've been in the gym for 5 years now, just turned 40 and have seen some pretty significant gains. However, there's no denying the vascularity and size these boys put on. It just ain't natural. When I see one of my gym regulars put on 30 lbs in 6-8 weeks and they are all gnarly and nasty, when they tell me it's just "chicken, beef and 12 eggs in 6 meals per day," I just tell them to shut up.

Also, don't forget the magical growth hormone. These guys aren't stupid, but the aren't that smart either.

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I thought he was involved b/c of the company's tax evasion process, not because he's suspected of using steroids. I personally do not think that he uses steroids. He has probably the most strict and rigorous training in all of baseball.