Stereoscopic vision - I don't have it - Will VR goggles work for me?

[Bacstar]

Was reading an Article on ARSTechnica on the upcoming VR update to Elite Dangerous.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/...n-the-challenges-of-making-games-for-real-vr/

Anywayz:

I was wondering will VR hardware like Oculus work for someone like me?

I'm partially blind in my right eye, pretty much since birth, so I really don't have stereoscopic vision. When I go to 3D movies, I get some flashes of the 3D effects, but I have to concentrate. I do have some depth perception, but I may have learned to compensate over the years.

 

[moonbogg]

You will still get the immersion from being shoved inside of a sealed helmet. As far as the 3D part goes, I would expect it to be about the same as when you go to the 3D movies. My best guess.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Without being an eye expert, I am sorry to say its doubtful it would work. I'm sure when the real kits are being sold they will have kiosks where you could check it out.

and what the above guy said

 

[Bacstar]

I always thought it would be one screen which is put up to your face. While reading the article, it mentioned replicating the image on each side, so I started wondering. I haven't really looked into how the goggles were set up.

 

[JSt0rm]

I dont think it will work for you. Your peripheral vision on your good eye is probably godlike and the goggles will put blinders on you.

 

[Bacstar]

Yeah. Hopefully, like someone mentioned, the stores will have kiosks to try them out. I was really looking forward to them, but not so much now.

 

[bystander36]

3D/VR experiences all work by sending a different image to each eye, so each eye sees from a slightly different location, simulating the space between your eyes. If 1 of your eyes doesn't work, you won't get the affect. You've learned depth perception by picking up on shadows and other clues in the environment. These simulated systems won't help you unless you can make that weaker eye focus more.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Yeah. Hopefully, like someone mentioned, the stores will have kiosks to try them out. I was really looking forward to them, but not so much now.

It still could be cool to be able to look around and it may work with you vision. I'd just be wary of sinking a few hundred into it then being disappointed.
Who knows maybe the screen being real close to your weaker eye may be good enough.

 

[LoveMachine]

Eye expert here: The commercial products coming out soon likely won't be a significantly different experience for you vs. a 3D movie. It's the same basic visual effect as LCD flicker glasses at the level of binocular part of the brain. You didn't mention the specific condition causing your vision trouble, but I can guess as to likely causes. IF it's due to strabismus (a turned eye) AND one side of the goggles could be precisely rotated to the same angle of deviation as the turned eye, you MIGHT get a depth effect. But there are a lot of variables regarding how the binocular area of the may have developed when you were a kid that factor in. And Oculus and the like will have an adjustment for the width of the eyes (based on facial anatomy) but not like what's described above.

The "immersive" aspect of the goggles would still apply to a large extent, but the 3D factor likely wouldn't be a reason to spend the money. Again, though, this is based off of the limited info you gave, OP. If your eye condition is some other pathology like optic nerve hypoplasia of something like that, then there would definitely not be any more of a 3D effect than whatever you get from a 3D movie currently.

 

[Bacstar]

It's been so long. I don't even remember what I have. I have a really bad stigmatism. I also remember having to wear patches over my good eye for some time, not sure why. I heard lazy eye mentioned. I had corrective surgery when I was really young so the bad eye would align with whatever I was staring at with my good eye.

So...when I cover up my good eye, all I see out of my right eye is a really dark blurry mess. My eye doctor usually just gives me the same prescription for my good eye to both eyes so the glasses I do get are balanced. I also need a note from him to get my driver's license renewed

 

[jlee]

Eye expert here: The commercial products coming out soon likely won't be a significantly different experience for you vs. a 3D movie. It's the same basic visual effect as LCD flicker glasses at the level of binocular part of the brain. You didn't mention the specific condition causing your vision trouble, but I can guess as to likely causes. IF it's due to strabismus (a turned eye) AND one side of the goggles could be precisely rotated to the same angle of deviation as the turned eye, you MIGHT get a depth effect. But there are a lot of variables regarding how the binocular area of the may have developed when you were a kid that factor in. And Oculus and the like will have an adjustment for the width of the eyes (based on facial anatomy) but not like what's described above.

The "immersive" aspect of the goggles would still apply to a large extent, but the 3D factor likely wouldn't be a reason to spend the money. Again, though, this is based off of the limited info you gave, OP. If your eye condition is some other pathology like optic nerve hypoplasia of something like that, then there would definitely not be any more of a 3D effect than whatever you get from a 3D movie currently.

I had fairly severe strabismus that was surgically corrected in my 20's. I don't have depth perception (can't see 3D stuff), but I am hoping the VR aspect of an OR will still function properly for me. I guess I'll find out.

 

[bystander36]

I had fairly severe strabismus that was surgically corrected in my 20's. I don't have depth perception (can't see 3D stuff), but I am hoping the VR aspect of an OR will still function properly for me. I guess I'll find out.

I don't see why it wouldn't. The images still change as you move your head regardless of your 3D perception.

 

[Bacstar]

I can't tell from what's on the website at Oculus, but I hope there's a setting that forgoes all the 3d stuff. Just so it acts just like a regular monitor that's only attached to your face.

 

[SheridanPC]

I don't know enough about the original poster's condition to comment on his case, but for people with Amblyopia and Strabismus, there is the potential to regain binocular vision through vision therapy using the Oculus Rift and special software.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/25/diplopia-could-restore-3d-vision/

The company talked about in the article is now called Vivid Vision. There's been very little info put out by them this year, but I'm hoping their product is for real.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I can't tell from what's on the website at Oculus, but I hope there's a setting that forgoes all the 3d stuff. Just so it acts just like a regular monitor that's only attached to your face.

For what it's worth, I was told upon joining the military that I have no depth perception (never realized it I guess, lady asked if I walked into walls often). Bought the NVidia stereoscopic glasses bundle they had (have?) and it works great for me. I will say though that it's 'unusual' in that I guess since I don't normally see that way, it can be jarring to actually look at. But the effect is very convincing, my favorite samples to show people are Mirror's Edge (very sharp lines, and lots of long drops), and any 3d strategy game like Dawn of War (all the units look like little toys, it's friggin awesome). I personally never got any headaches/sickness from them though, unless I tried something not really designed for this kind of system, like Daggerfall, or some other game using 2d assets in a 3d plane. Messes with the grey matter.

I don't know that this would help the OP as I do actually have vision in both eyes, but for those simply lacking depth perception, I'm thinking the VR setups should work, if a bit jarring.

 

[QuantumPion]

You guys are wrong. Stereo vision only gives depth perception for objects relatively close to your body. The majority of your 3D perception comes from motion parallax, which works even if you only have one eye. It is the headtracking aspect of VR which provides immersive motion parallax.

 

[bystander36]

You guys are wrong. Stereo vision only gives depth perception for objects relatively close to your body. The majority of your 3D perception comes from motion parallax, which works even if you only have one eye. It is the headtracking aspect of VR which provides immersive motion parallax.

3D Vision and other types of 3D give binocular vision. Just as you get it in real life, because your eyes are slightly spaced a part. And yeah, we don't use it that much on objects at distance. No one is wrong here, just that things at distance, we don't make much use of 3D.

But if you haven't played with 3D Vision/HD3D, you have no idea what you are missing. Head tracking will be a nice addition, but binocular vision is used quite well in these games as well.