Stereo System setup for my house

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MikeMike

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Design a system that will put music into 6 rooms (one being outdoors) and get the system, wiring, speakers, etc all put together.

For this design, i was wondering if something like the Extremis 6 would do good to put into the rooms that just want music since it seems to go high and low enough and would hide well in the room. This would be more of a passive music setup with the speakers on one side of the room immersing the whole room with the music.

one of the rooms however would be full blown HT setup so as to allow for the TV to use it. for this setup i was thinking that i would go 5.1. Again, some more extremis 6's to cover mideverything. for tweeters i am unsure what i would like to use, i dont want to go super expensive on the tweeters, however i dont want them to be crap. I have previously used Northcreek D25's which are nice tweeters, not to bad from what i have listened to them. and iirc, they extend pretty low and will play lower than most tweets.

for the sub, i was gunna do a tempest with a 300 watt, or 250 watt plate amp etc the usual there.

now my question is, what type of equipment will i need for this, i know i will need a receiver, wire, some volume knobs in the other rooms. and a room selector, or could i just have each room on and just have a power switch within that room. other questions would be, should i go passive xovers on the HT setup, or active? and what should i do about the xovers on the other speakers. im pretty sure i couldnt pull off a 10 channel xover.

now as for the receiver, what type of receiver would be able to achieve this? would it require a special receiver, or just a normal receiver and then maybe an amp, or splitters, or what?

Thanks.
MIKE
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so here is what i picked.

Yamaha 5790


Dayton C-Series 6.5" 2 way in wall speakers (pair) x2

Dayotn C-Series 6.5" in ceiling speakers (pair) x 4
Dayton C-Series 7pr speaker selector switch w. impedence matching. x 1
Dayton 6.1" ceiling speaker mount x 8

total for that stuff, no H/T yet. is $944 (plus tax on the pe stuff)

now as for H/T i dont know the prices of a kit i can get from a guy i know on a set of Silver Flute 6.5's and Northcreek D-25 speakers with the crossover design and parts included. it is either gunna be those kits (which will be cheaper than my other plan) or Extremis 6's (HERE) and D-25's which again would require a custom Xover design which will cost money in itself. i would go for a 5.1 setup. so i would need 5 kits. as for the sub, i will go with a tempest(HERE) i, so $150 for the tempest, and

240 watt amp from PE (due to free shipping, it just is a better deal than a 250 watter)

so for sub + amp it would total $216.xx then shipping.

now all i will be needing is a LOT of wire to wire everything up, some rca's for the sub.

now i am just wondering if there is anything you would suggest to change. its a lot less than i predicted, but i am not sure on the speakers so that may put me up there. let me know. anyone on here who knows H/T and speakers, Lemme know if you have any other ideas.

also need volume control from PE again, will these handle to power? and will they do what i want them to basically is control volume. and tey look good and will they handle the power from the H.T receiver i have listed?

MIKE
 
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Howard

Lifer
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I can't open them!

EDIT: That's because they don't point anywhere. :roll:

EDIT2: Anyway, if he just wants the other rooms to be able to play music, CSS WR125 drivers could do it, if the SPL required is pretty low, and he doesn't mind a relatively quiet bass response.

http://www.creativesound.ca/details.php?model=WR125S

EDIT3: http://home.new.rr.com/zaph/audio/audio-speaker13.html might be a suitable kit for the non-HT rooms. Then again, for full-room coverage, these might be a better choice: http://home.hetnet.nl/~geenius/USB.html
 
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MikeMike

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howard, looked at what you posted, compared to the dayton drivers they are expensive. and if i wanted to, i would prolly rather go over to adireaudio and pick up some of the extremis 6's since they are the same thing as the 4 just bigger, and cheaper, play from like 60hz - 4kHz just like the 4's. but they again are much more than the dayton drivers.

links are fixed. the other site that i copied them from had shortened them with some ...'s in there.

MIKE
 
Rallispec

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Lifer
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damn man -- so is budget even a consideration right now?

how many audio sources? Do you want to be able to broadcast audio from any one room to any other (get the theater feed outside.. etc) And what kind of control solution do you want for it? or do you plan on having 94 remotes sitting around trying to control and manage all these things from each room?
 
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MikeMike

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Originally posted by: Rallispec
damn man -- so is budget even a consideration right now?

how many audio sources? Do you want to be able to broadcast audio from any one room to any other (get the theater feed outside.. etc) And what kind of control solution do you want for it? or do you plan on having 94 remotes sitting around trying to control and manage all these things from each room?
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theres very much a budget, right now i only have 1100 spent, and my dad gave me 1500 but i think ill be around 1700 once i get the prices on the components.

o sh!t there is one thing i did forget and those are volume knobs for the rooms. damn gotta go find the prices on those.

basically ill just have one source that can do multiple zones with multiple fm channels which would be the 5790. and then the source selector will basically have most zones on at once, and maybe throw a switch at each place so that i can cut down on the impedence overall. ive got a few more things i need to lookup.

MIKE
 
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T2T III

Lifer
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Some other options to toss around:

Russound - to handle distributing the music to the other rooms.
Niles - Same.
Harman/Kardon - Some of their receivers feature the A-Bus system which might work well for connecting the other zones and being able to control the receiver with touch-pads in each of those areas.

 
Kelemvor

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If you only need one room to be the Theater room and the rest just need to get music, check out the companies that do whole house automation stuff. They stick speakers in the ceilings and put little volume knobs in each room and you can go from there. It's pretty common these days but I don't do it so can't tlel you the equipment specs.
 
Rallispec

Rallispec

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Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
If you only need one room to be the Theater room and the rest just need to get music, check out the companies that do whole house automation stuff. They stick speakers in the ceilings and put little volume knobs in each room and you can go from there. It's pretty common these days but I don't do it so can't tlel you the equipment specs.
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thats what i was thinking at first too -- That stuff gets real pricey, real fast though.
 
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MikeMike

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well i learned that the speaker kits are 209.99 a pair + shipping. So for five bookshelfs you're looking at $525 plus shipping for all of the kits.

The kits come with everything you need to build them. Grill cloth, drivers, crossover components and diagram, terminal cups, port tubes and little grill clips (if you need them).

so for a complete total is 1855 and then youd throw in shipping. and hit about 2 grand.

im not sure what my dad would say to that. but damn would it be a good system. wire would cost a decent amount too but i think it would be a great system.

any other input?

and a quick review of the speaker kit i plan on purchasing
just incase any of you others out there are looking for some ideas.

MIKE
 
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MikeMike

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Going up, just because i believe this is gunna happen. It could be a fun wiring job, as ill have to do a good amount of wire fishing through some walls, and well have to figure out how to wire the surround room, its a slab addition, and i think if we do this, the room will be re arranged so that we can get a better arrangement. The room used to have a sliding door in it, but it has since been removed, and in order to get a better setup, we could fill in the small step like thing on the one side and put the tv there, and then the room becomes square, instead of having the TV in a corner as the room is rectangular and it would be a weird setup. If we put the tv into the one side then the chairs are all on the side of the room with the door into it, it would be an interesting setup, but it should work.
current setup

But fishing the wires into the upstairs room should not be that hard, as weve run coax throughout the house, theres an internal wall that we normall use and then distribute it in the attic. and putting the speakers in the ceiling and wall should not be all that hard.

any other suggestions?

MIKE
 
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