Steerage Class returns to America's airways

[TheSlamma]

WWYBYWB?

Really?

I live check to check like most non 1%er Americans except those that post here like obviously you as well.

I'm not even close to the 1% and I haven't lived check to check since I was 19. My dad was on disability by the time I was 15 only making $1200 a month and mom was already dead by then so there was no inheritance or free handouts for me, 100% on my own steam.

Stop making blanket statements that if you are not in the 1% then the only 2 other options are an Anti-American or a victim.

The other guy also shouldn't expect everyone to be able to spend $650 on plane tickets either though.. just means you are BOTH wrong.

 

[Exterous]

In the realm of airline fuckery the ending of stopovers isn't the worst thing in the world. I'm surprised AA kept it for as long as they did anyway given the wholesale ass rapings people are accepting in United and Delta's FF programs.

We shall see what 2015 holds when the major stuff starts to merge. Some mileage devaluation is probably inevitable.

The ending of the stop overs isn't what bothers me the most about that - it was the complete lack of warning. From what I have experienced and read I don't know of any other situation where options comparable to Explorer and Stop overs were removed without at least a week's notice. I fear that it might become more common place since its already been done once.

I will admit a special dislike of this change as I was merely waiting for confirmation of my days off before booking HNL -> ORD and then ORD -> CDG. If I had known I would have booked it and dealt with the change fees if necessary

 

[glenn1]

Might as well have us all stand up and strap us onto a board or pole. Or, knock us out and pile us on top of one another.

When an airline shows disregard for it's passengers, I distance myself.

I have put off trips this year, because there wasn't a flight with a company I like going to the place I wanted to go to.

Jet Blue was the best,.. for about 10 years. Now, it's crap.

The latest and greatest has been Virgin America so far. And, I was on a Delta flight to my destination where I did not fit,.. but coming back - no issues with the leg room.

Good, one less dislikeable person I might have to sit next on my next flight. Maybe you can take Amtrak on your next trip should you be able to afford one.

 

[OutHouse]

of 35-38 inches; “Regular Economy” at 30-31 inches; and the new “Economy Minus,” which would be at a knee-torturing 30 inches and below.

that has to violate some sort of safety measure for emergencies. a Greyhound bus has more legroom than that.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

that has to violate some sort of safety measure for emergencies. a Greyhound bus has more legroom than that.

I saw an article a couple of months ago that RyanAir (IIRC) is considering vertical saddle seats to cram more people onboard.

 

[K1052]

The ending of the stop overs isn't what bothers me the most about that - it was the complete lack of warning. From what I have experienced and read I don't know of any other situation where options comparable to Explorer and Stop overs were removed without at least a week's notice. I fear that it might become more common place since its already been done once.

I will admit a special dislike of this change as I was merely waiting for confirmation of my days off before booking HNL -> ORD and then ORD -> CDG. If I had known I would have booked it and dealt with the change fees if necessary

Yea, they should have given a little notice even if it resulted in a slight surge of people booking award travel. I have no doubt Parker is looking at ways to further squeeze the Advantage program, though that is generally less important to me as long as the elites still are treated decently.

 

[xBiffx]

At a certain point, I'd prefer padded travel pods over seats; sort of like "flying coffins" that they pack into the plane and just pump oxygen to each unit.

Works for me. Been thinking it should have been like this for years, especially for the longer hauls.

 

[bshole]

I saw an article a couple of months ago that RyanAir (IIRC) is considering vertical saddle seats to cram more people onboard.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Yep, those are the seats!

 

[TheSlamma]

Yep, those are the seats!

Those seats will single handed make Obamacare fail through the excess of back specialist care claims skyrocketing

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Those seats will single handed make Obamacare fail through the excess of back specialist care claims skyrocketing

For longer flights, they should just sedate people, stick them in boxes, and put them on shelves. Seriously, it would probably be more comfortable than coach.

 

[TheSlamma]

For longer flights, they should just sedate people, stick them in boxes, and put them on shelves. Seriously, it would probably be more comfortable than coach.

LOL, I remember that case a few years ago where the guy Fedex shipped himself and got in trouble.. but he was probably on to something.

 

[spacejamz]

For longer flights, they should just sedate people, stick them in boxes, and put them on shelves. Seriously, it would probably be more comfortable than coach.

that would make the de-planing process take alot longer, wouldn't it??

 

[TheSlamma]

that would make the de-planing process take alot longer, wouldn't it??

duh, conveyer belts!!

If we are going to take the human out of humanity we might as well go all the way. Heck we already do it with the food we eat, especially airplane food

edit: I can see it now.. we can go all the way from security screening, boarding, flight, all the way to luggage pickup as a "package"

 

[Exterous]

we can go all the way from security screening, boarding, flight, all the way to luggage pickup as a "package"

And keep you from speaking up while they do extra inspections of your package because... ya know... terrorists

 

[Newell Steamer]

Good, one less dislikeable person I might have to sit next on my next flight. Maybe you can take Amtrak on your next trip should you be able to afford one.

Bus and Airbus are not the same thing. What you drag yourself onto is not an airplane fella.

 

[Subyman]

The last form of transportation I consider is flying. I hate the process. The best experience I've had recently was Amtrak. I love walking up, jumping on, and sitting down wherever. Tons of room and no huge airport to mess with.

My uncle has a Van's RV7. That is fun to travel in and is surprisingly fast domestically. It's fun pulling up to a backwoods run way and taking off within 5 minutes. Gets about 35mpg and can cruise at 150mph. Doesn't take too long to get pretty much anywhere in the US compared to driving.

 

[theeedude]

Good thing we are building high speed rail here in Cali. Most of my flights are between SF and LA.

 

[Subyman]

Oh no way I would ever consider that BS. Looks like I'm strapping in to ride the Batman at Six Flags lol.

 

[Ns1]

Good thing we are building high speed rail here in Cali. Most of my flights are between SF and LA.

yeah not sure how that HSR is gonna help you, given the incredible route of Madera -> Bakersfield.

 

[TheSlamma]

And keep you from speaking up while they do extra inspections of your package because... ya know... terrorists

I'm thinkin they just snapchat your junk (it'll never get stolen right)

 

[cabri]

Good thing we are building high speed rail here in Cali. Most of my flights are between SF and LA.

4 hrs instead of 1 hr. Good to know that your time is so much less valuable.

And you will be able to NEF those extra 3 hours.

 

[theeedude]

4 hrs instead of 1 hr. Good to know that your time is so much less valuable.

And you will be able to NEF those extra 3 hours.

Under 3 hours. Plus SFO and LAX aren't exactly in the middle of their respective cities as opposed to rail stations. And you don't exactly come in, sit down, and go either.

 

[Ns1]

4 hrs instead of 1 hr. Good to know that your time is so much less valuable.

And you will be able to NEF those extra 3 hours.

flying LAX -> SF generally means 30 minutes of commute, 15 minutes of check-in, 1 hour of security, and then 30 minutes of pre-flight time.

 

[glenn1]

4 hrs instead of 1 hr. Good to know that your time is so much less valuable.

And you will be able to NEF those extra 3 hours.

Don't forget that the train almost always costs more than flying, often by a wide margin.