Steep decline in oil production brings risk of war and unrest, says new study

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/oil/story/0,,2196435,00.html

Steep decline in oil production brings risk of war and unrest, says new study


· Output peaked in 2006 and will fall 7% a year
· Decline in gas, coal and uranium also predicted

Ashley Seager
Monday October 22, 2007

World oil production has already peaked and will fall by half as soon as 2030, according to a report which also warns that extreme shortages of fossil fuels will lead to wars and social breakdown.

The German-based Energy Watch Group will release its study in London today saying that global oil production peaked in 2006 - much earlier than most experts had expected. The report, which predicts that production will now fall by 7% a year, comes after oil prices set new records almost every day last week, on Friday hitting more than $90 (£44) a barrel.

"The world soon will not be able to produce all the oil it needs as demand is rising while supply is falling. This is a huge problem for the world economy," said Hans-Josef Fell, EWG's founder and the German MP behind the country's successful support system for renewable energy.

The report's author, Joerg Schindler, said its most alarming finding was the steep decline in oil production after its peak, which he says is now behind us.

The results are in contrast to projections from the International Energy Agency, which says there is little reason to worry about oil supplies at the moment.

However, the EWG study relies more on actual oil production data which, it says, are more reliable than estimates of reserves still in the ground. The group says official industry estimates put global reserves at about 1.255 gigabarrels - equivalent to 42 years' supply at current consumption rates. But it thinks the figure is only about two thirds of that.

Global oil production is currently about 81m barrels a day - EWG expects that to fall to 39m by 2030. It also predicts significant falls in gas, coal and uranium production as those energy sources are used up.

Britain's oil production peaked in 1999 and has already dropped by half to about 1.6 million barrels a day.

The report presents a bleak view of the future unless a radically different approach is adopted. It quotes the British energy economist David Fleming as saying: "Anticipated supply shortages could lead easily to disturbing scenes of mass unrest as witnessed in Burma this month. For government, industry and the wider public, just muddling through is not an option any more as this situation could spin out of control and turn into a complete meltdown of society."

Mr Schindler comes to a similar conclusion. "The world is at the beginning of a structural change of its economic system. This change will be triggered by declining fossil fuel supplies and will influence almost all aspects of our daily life."

Jeremy Leggett, one of Britain's leading environmentalists and the author of Half Gone, a book about "peak oil" - defined as the moment when maximum production is reached, said that both the UK government and the energy industry were in "institutionalised denial" and that action should have been taken sooner.

"When I was an adviser to government, I proposed that we set up a taskforce to look at how fast the UK could mobilise alternative energy technologies in extremis, come the peak," he said. "Other industry advisers supported that. But the government prefers to sleep on without even doing a contingency study. For those of us who know that premature peak oil is a clear and present danger, it is impossible to understand such complacency."

Mr Fell said that the world had to move quickly towards the massive deployment of renewable energy and to a dramatic increase in energy efficiency, both as a way to combat climate change and to ensure that the lights stayed on. "If we did all this we may not have an energy crisis."

He accused the British government of hypocrisy. "Tony Blair and Gordon Brown have talked a lot about climate change but have not brought in proper policies to drive up the use of renewables," he said. "This is why they are left talking about nuclear and carbon capture and storage. "

Yesterday, a spokesman for the Department of Business and Enterprise said: "Over the next few years global oil production and refining capacity is expected to increase faster than demand. The world's oil resources are sufficient to sustain economic growth for the foreseeable future. The challenge will be to bring these resources to market in a way that ensures sustainable, timely, reliable and affordable supplies of energy."

The German policy, which guarantees above-market payments to producers of renewable power, is being adopted in many countries - but not Britain, where renewables generate about 4% of the country's electricity and 2% of its overall energy needs.
Should be an interesting week in the stock market after Fridays large drop partly due to surging oil prices, and the Asian stock market slumping today.

If this is considered a reliable or regarded report, it could throw some more fuel on the fire... not to mention the bad news that comes with the report itself...

Time to dust off the bike...

 

desy

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Personally I believe we are at peak oil and production won't go higher to 100mbpd as some like CERA think we can. I think 85 mbpd is about all we are going to produce in a single day of conventional crude.

So that being said, NA dropped 20% off its consumption after the 70's oil embargo so there is still lots of room for efficiencies here.

Where does that lead the future? All I know is we are going to use less oil because it won't be available as cheapley as before, how we respond to that is anybodies guess
 

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Originally posted by: desy
Personally I believe we are at peak oil and production won't go higher to 100mbpd as some like CERA think we can. I think 85 mbpd is about all we are going to produce in a single day of conventional crude.

So that being said, NA dropped 20% off its consumption after the 70's oil embargo so there is still lots of room for efficiencies here.

Where does that lead the future? All I know is we are going to use less oil because it won't be available as cheapley as before,

how we respond to that is anybodies guess

You hear McCain/Palin Drill Drill Drill
 

desy

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Since the US has only about 10% of world wide production increasingdomestic production by 25% would only impact 2.5% in a global market, ergo drill drill won't work as a globally traded commodity
 

heyheybooboo

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Haha, pwnage! I am TEH WINN4r!

Yup.

And the math isn't that hard.

Simply returning Iran/Iraq infrastructure to its status of 30 years ago will add 5+ mb/d to overall world production.

I do, however, understand the intent of the BS associated with the article. It's the Peak Oil Scare Tactic to focus attention (and subsidies) on alternatives (essentially in the UK).
 

Thump553

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I wonder where the author gets his oil production peaked in 2006 from. I've seen plenty of speculation as to when peak oil production will be, but not definitive.


Declining crude prices will play a huge part in Russia's instability and propensity to wage aggressive war, as their economy is almost entirely driven by oil at this point. To that extent, this report makes a very good point.
 

halik

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Haha, pwnage! I am TEH WINN4r!

7 percent compounded over 20 years = .25
That alone makes me want to dismiss the report...
 

desy

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It isn't linear, oil will drop at 7% short term and then as either price makes it unattractive as a fuel option and demand crashes, or recovery becomes uneconomical or impossible ie takes a barrel to get a barrel
putting a number on it is guess as how the world or industry will respond
IE Hubbberts peak had world peak in the late 90's which didn't happen cause he didn't see the demand destruction in the 70/80's but not bad for a prediction made in the 50's

How do they come up with the number of mbpd of production?

It isn't easy as not every country discloses and NG to liquids and Tar Sands and Ethanol muddy the picture, as liquid fuel consumption has gone up but actual conventional crude has been in decline since 2004 even with astonishing prices.
So more people drill but North Sea drop off oil has GB as an importer like suggested in the article, since 99 lost half of their production, Cantarell in Mexico is double digit percentages down.
Saudi Arabia can give more but because of oil wealth they are now consuming a lot more domestically.
Russian production and exports are going down as basically they just went over their old feilds with new technology and are also consuming more domestically and on and on

BTW actaully war is one of the things I worry about. Other than political power wars are fought primarily as a scarcity of resources issue
 

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Its funny, i thought this was a more current thread about OPEC dropping production in order to control the recent drop-off in prices leading to war and unrest, not peak oil..


I'm curious though, how can anyone really argue AGAINST peak oil.. I mean, you are aware that oil is a finite resource correct? and that is not being replenished and if we keep using it as excessively as we do eventually we're going to run out of it, much sooner as places like china and india attempt to match our excessive consumption. I'm assuming then that the arguments against peak oil are that it is much further into the future than some are saying. How does that change anything though? Shouldn't we use the extra time to prepare for the inevitable, rather than bury our heads in the sand and pretend that cheap, plentiful fossil fuel energy will always exist?
 

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Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
Its funny, i thought this was a more current thread about OPEC dropping production in order to control the recent drop-off in prices leading to war and unrest, not peak oil..


I'm curious though, how can anyone really argue AGAINST peak oil.. I mean, you are aware that oil is a finite resource correct? and that is not being replenished and if we keep using it as excessively as we do eventually we're going to run out of it, much sooner as places like china and india attempt to match our excessive consumption. I'm assuming then that the arguments against peak oil are that it is much further into the future than some are saying. How does that change anything though? Shouldn't we use the extra time to prepare for the inevitable, rather than bury our heads in the sand and pretend that cheap, plentiful fossil fuel energy will always exist?
The arguments are about when it will be and how severe its impact will be. In the extreme, people say we're there or very close to there and its impacts will be very severe.
 

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For those inclined, read the Hirsch Report sponsored by the Department of Energy in 2005. It analyzes peak oil and the numbers collected over the past century on oil production don't lie. Although the Hirsch Report doesn't predict when peak oil will occur, most reputable geologists in this field estimate that global oil production has peaked or will peak in the next five years. The U.S.' oil production has been steady declining since about 1970.

Generally the trend has been steady decline in production, not as drastic as 7% a year. Global demand however, is the real factor in how bad the effects will be.
 

Specop 007

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Pff, havent you heard?

We're going to invest our way out of peak oil. So says the resident investment....."expert"......