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Imaginer

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As long as the current Steam client is still supported, updated, continually improved on, and have things released for it, this changes nothing with my computing paradigm. But, it opens up options I suppose.
 

Jaskalas

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Is this to appeal to folks that do not have a Windows OS? :hmm:

I wonder if that's an emerging market.
 

taserbro

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It's going to appeal to a lot of different folks categorically, if not numerically.

From those who're already pc gamers and just needed a tiny nudge of motivation to try and hook up their tv streaming thing they've been wanting to hook up for months, to people who want to separate the work and play parts of their desktop cleanly...

And eventually, they are promising something that's interesting me a great deal, which is that it'll run the natively compatible games with significantly better performance on modern hardware because it runs it without windows and all its associated overhead.
 

AlexKidd5000

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Yeah, it will run native Linux games, and will be able to stream windows/mac games that aren't ported to Linux yet. I really hope this takes off, as I already use Linux as a main OS, and use Windows only rarely.
 

SPBHM

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well, it's free, and the streaming option looks interesting,

but I wonder how much of a OS is this, only focused on steam gaming/video services, or also usable for web browsing, "office"...
 

dawp

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this may be what linux needs to increase the user base that's been hovering around 1 to 2% for years.
 

colonelciller

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well, it's free, and the streaming option looks interesting,

but I wonder how much of a OS is this, only focused on steam gaming/video services, or also usable for web browsing, "office"...

from the hints i read it is steam and little else... definitely no office.
since the aim is simplicity and reducing bloat and overhead unrelated to gaming

looks promising
 

Imouto

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It looks targetting the Android TV dongle market without ARM support.

Unless we see Intel and AMD NUCs really cheap soon I don't see it taking off.
 

oynaz

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this may be what linux needs to increase the user base that's been hovering around 1 to 2% for years.

Android is Linux, so that is not true.

but aside from that, Steam OS' main competitors will probably be XBone, PS4 and Wii U
 

lxskllr

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Android is Linux, so that is not true.

It's a common confusion. What he meant was GNU/Linux. The GNU is what really matters in these systems. Linux isn't nearly as interesting in comparison.

RMS said:
Android is very different from the GNU/Linux operating system because it contains very little of GNU. Indeed, just about the only component in common between Android and GNU/Linux is Linux, the kernel. People who erroneously think “Linux” refers to the entire GNU/Linux combination get tied in knots by these facts, and make paradoxical statements such as “Android contains Linux, but it isn't Linux.” If we avoid starting from the confusion, the situation is simple: Android contains Linux, but not GNU; thus, Android and GNU/Linux are mostly different.
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/android-and-users-freedom.html
 

oynaz

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It's a common confusion. What he meant was GNU/Linux. The GNU is what really matters in these systems. Linux isn't nearly as interesting in comparison.

I do not agree to that - not in this context at least. The issue here is that Linux, in all its incarnations, is gaining traction. For most people, the OS does not matter. The applications available for that particular OS does. That is why Microsoft is still alive despite numerous fiascos - for many people Microsoft Office is the entire reason for having a computer, and that runs best (and cheapest) on Windows.

Where am I going with this? I forgot, and need to go back to work.
 

lxskllr

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I do not agree to that - not in this context at least. The issue here is that Linux, in all its incarnations, is gaining traction. For most people, the OS does not matter. The applications available for that particular OS does. That is why Microsoft is still alive despite numerous fiascos - for many people Microsoft Office is the entire reason for having a computer, and that runs best (and cheapest) on Windows.

Where am I going with this? I forgot, and need to go back to work.

The specific context was the desktop(1%-2% share) which is GNU/Linux. Otherwise, I somewhat agree with you. I think people are realizing they don't need MS. They thought they did, and then found they made out just fine not using MS software. Linux the kernel either dominates, or is a strong competitor on every platform aside the desktop, but that doesn't necessarily gain desktop users.

There's a disconnect in people's minds which is placed there by the companies to further their bottom lines. Phones/tablets=appliances, while desktop=computer. That's incorrect. They're all computers, and people need to be taught that, so they demand the same(and more) rights on their portables they get on their desktops.

I kind of lost my train of thought too, but I think it's on path of SteamOS will help reinforce the notion that MS isn't needed, and being a more house-centric platform will maybe lead to greater use on general purpose computers.
 

oynaz

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I kind of lost my train of thought too, but I think it's on path of SteamOS will help reinforce the notion that MS isn't needed, and being a more house-centric platform will maybe lead to greater use on general purpose computers.

Heh. I think we kinda agree, then. If we were able to stay focused for more than half a minute, at least.
 

Mushkins

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As a PC gamer, I'm not seeing why I should care about this at all. Its just another flavor of Linux focused on Steam.

This doesn't change the fact that 99% of games are developed using DirectX and do not run on linux. Or that linux video card drivers are still the red headed stepchild of the GPU world. If I wanted to game on Linux, i'd still be jumping through the same hoops that I have to do now, a "Steam OS" doesn't really bring anything at all to the table aside from buying further into a brand for no good reason.
 

colonelciller

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As a PC gamer, I'm not seeing why I should care about this at all. Its just another flavor of Linux focused on Steam.

This doesn't change the fact that 99% of games are developed using DirectX and do not run on linux. Or that linux video card drivers are still the red headed stepchild of the GPU world. If I wanted to game on Linux, i'd still be jumping through the same hoops that I have to do now, a "Steam OS" doesn't really bring anything at all to the table aside from buying further into a brand for no good reason.

while what you're talking about may be true today, it may not necessarily betrue tomorrow. Linux seems to be gaining momentum towards becoming a gaming platform. If/when linux gaming becomes mainstream, this could truly begin to scuttle windows and MSFT.

gamers need not be tied to Windows and all the negatives that come along with the proprietary Windows environment.
 

AlexKidd5000

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As a PC gamer, I'm not seeing why I should care about this at all. Its just another flavor of Linux focused on Steam.

This doesn't change the fact that 99% of games are developed using DirectX and do not run on linux. Or that linux video card drivers are still the red headed stepchild of the GPU world. If I wanted to game on Linux, i'd still be jumping through the same hoops that I have to do now, a "Steam OS" doesn't really bring anything at all to the table aside from buying further into a brand for no good reason.

As a PC gamer I am very excited about SteamOS. It means that Valve are serious about bring gaming to Linux, and that means we won't be shackled to Windows, and Microsofts bullsh*t if gaming takes off on it. Do you seriously want to be forced to keep using Windows for gaming? I don't. Plus OpenGL 4.4 makes it easier to port DX games over to it.
 

Mem

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As a PC gamer I am very excited about SteamOS. It means that Valve are serious about bring gaming to Linux, and that means we won't be shackled to Windows, and Microsofts bullsh*t if gaming takes off on it. Do you seriously want to be forced to keep using Windows for gaming? I don't. Plus OpenGL 4.4 makes it easier to port DX games over to it.


It'll be interesting to see what happens and how all those game software companies will react down the road.

It's a win for gamers anyway.