State of Texas AG files suit on four other states to stop election results

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Moonbeam

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The Republican Party is a mafia business enterprise, a protection racket based on fear and the earlier mind control of children. They promise to provide you safety from what you were threatened with if you give them blind faith. It is the same principle that corrupts religion. We are taught to fear the loss of love and support if we don’t conform while constantly manipulated to believe we are in a terrible state of danger. You can just switch out fear of rejection for fear of succumbing to oh, say radical socialism. It’s always doom and gloom just around the corner because we have lived our whole lives threatened with it.

Do a count of the number of ends of the world you have lived through.

Oh, by the way...... Ding dong, the wicked witch is dead.
 

ElMonoDelMar

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You don't say...
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BUTCH1

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And FLORIDUH is that much better?1 Ahahaha!

Fuck right off...
My criticism was not directed at the entire state of TX, just the asshole AG who initiated this lawsuit. Yea, we have an
asshole governor and plenty of alt-right nutbags here as well.
 

Lanyap

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When Trump tore down the ethics oversight committee in his first week in office you should've suspected that he had some grand plans that didn't involve proper or legal behavior.



Can't wait to see Biden, et al, put all of these oversight processes back in place. They need to make sure nobody can tear them down again. trump's tenure pointed out a lot of holes in governmental processes that allowed unscrupulous players to manipulate and destroy them.
 

fskimospy

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Can't wait to see Biden, et al, put all of these oversight processes back in place. They need to make sure nobody can tear them down again. trump's tenure pointed out a lot of holes in governmental processes that allowed unscrupulous players to manipulate and destroy them.
Unfortunately not possible. All of these oversight processes depend in the end on elected officials acting in good faith to do their jobs. If that’s not there, nothing works.

So yes, with Biden in office the executive branch will probably work with the constraints we all remember growing up. That will end immediately as soon as the next president feels like ending it.
 

sportage

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Oh my... the nutties are out in full force in Washington today rallying in front of the Supreme Court. Even mike Flynn was just speaking to the crowd. Poor Trumpies are really freaking out now. Live streaming on YouTube DC RALLIES TO SUPPORT TRUMP. I find this fun and funny to watch because let’s face it... mass hysteria is always fun to watch.
 

Bitek

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Meh.... Some idiot(s) in Texas are always talking about secession. You would think they'd think it means caesarean delivery by now.

At some point Trumpistan needs to put money where their mouth is.

Want to go? Just go then. I won't miss SC, MS, AL, AR, TN, KY, WV, OK.

Go make your Neo Confederacy and GTFO.

FL would owe a giant buyout for all the federal dollars that have flowed there, else broken up. Same with TX
 
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BoomerD

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At some point Trumpistan needs to put money where their mouth is.

Want to go? Just go then. I won't miss SC, MS, AL, AR, TN, KY, WV, OK.

Go make your Neo Confederacy and GTFO.

FL would owe a giant buyout for all the federal dollars that have flowed there, else broken up. Same with TX

The problem would be getting all the non-connected, but just as dumbfuckistan states in the new country. Places like Idaho and Wyoming...just as conservative and redneck as the southern states...but separated by lots of miles.
 
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ewdotson

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At some point Trumpistan needs to put money where their mouth is.

Want to go? Just go then. I won't miss SC, MS, AL, AR, TN, KY, WV, OK.

Go make your Neo Confederacy and GTFO.

FL would owe a giant buyout for all the federal dollars that have flowed there, else broken up. Same with TX
It's easy to say, but is the plan to just abandon - for example - the 35% or so of the population of MS who are Southern Blacks? Should we just let them be ground under the heel of your neoconfederacy?

Sure, sure, give them (and anyone else who might want out) the opportunity to move. I'm not entirely sure folks who suggest this sort of thing are fully considering the logistics of relocating 10s of millions of people.

Plus there'd be minor little issues like what to do about the military bases in these regions.
 
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fskimospy

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It's easy to say, but is the plan to just abandon - for example - the 35% or so of the population of MS who are Southern Blacks? Should we just let them be ground under the heel of your neoconfederacy?

Sure, sure, give them (and anyone else who might want out) the opportunity to move. I'm not entirely sure folks who suggest this sort of thing are fully considering the logistics of relocating 10s of millions of people.

Plus there'd be minor little issues like what to do about the military bases in these regions.
It is not really possible to move people like that. Sure you could offer to help moves for people who want to but that’s simply not going to happen for most people.

The fate of the non-crazies is what bothers me about this too. This is why I feel like greater regional autonomy might be a better answer because I do not think people fully grasp the humanitarian disaster area that much of the old confederacy would become without aid from the rest of the country.
 

iRONic

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It's easy to say, but is the plan to just abandon - for example - the 35% or so of the population of MS who are Southern Blacks? Should we just let them be ground under the heel of your neoconfederacy?

Sure, sure, give them (and anyone else who might want out) the opportunity to move. I'm not entirely sure folks who suggest this sort of thing are fully considering the logistics of relocating 10s of millions of people.

Plus there'd be minor little issues like what to do about the military bases in these regions.
This x1000!

We left CT for KY three years ago. Even though we have family here - the COL and climate is infinitely better than CT.

I'm 61. We're not moving again!
 

Jhhnn

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Meh.... Some idiot(s) in Texas are always talking about secession. You would think they'd think it means caesarean delivery by now.

It's been the same bullshit on & off for 155 years. "The South shall rise again!" has always been something for the mow-rons to latch onto. Putin's boys love it, particularly when they can inspire divisive crap on both sides. If they can promote us going through the same sort of experience they've gone through with the demise of the Soviet Union & the Warsaw Pact it would def level the playing field a lot. If they can get us shooting at each other, all the better. It's why they love the NRA.
 
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woolfe9998

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It is not really possible to move people like that. Sure you could offer to help moves for people who want to but that’s simply not going to happen for most people.

The fate of the non-crazies is what bothers me about this too. This is why I feel like greater regional autonomy might be a better answer because I do not think people fully grasp the humanitarian disaster area that much of the old confederacy would become without aid from the rest of the country.

Yes probability a majority would not be willing or able to move in the short term. Longer term, we can offer asylum for people being oppressed. And yes, the red states would turn into a third world shithole in short order. Humanitarian relief would be needed.

Truly an awful scenario. Just less awful than what we inevitably face if we do not do it because that is a scenario where the entire country turns to shit, not just the red states.
 

ewdotson

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It is not really possible to move people like that. Sure you could offer to help moves for people who want to but that’s simply not going to happen for most people.
That, of course, was my point. I'll be damned if I know what the answer is to unborking this country, but that's … deeply flawed as a solution.
 

NWRMidnight

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At some point Trumpistan needs to put money where their mouth is.

Want to go? Just go then. I won't miss SC, MS, AL, AR, TN, KY, WV, OK.

Go make your Neo Confederacy and GTFO.

FL would owe a giant buyout for all the federal dollars that have flowed there, else broken up. Same with TX
I don't think Texas has the ability to support all those other states as they are accustomed to getting a lot of federal help, and are at the top of the list in the federal tax dollar state support.
 

sportage

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I just want to shout a big hello to all my devil & witch friends out there. That’s what protesting Trumpies are calling us Joe Biden Democrats, devils and witches. Funny.... I don’t feel like a witch. I don’t even like sweeping the floor with a broom let alone flying around on one.
 

Grooveriding

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What's next on the list for the nutters? They all thought this case was their saviour. Still another month of wild theories and hopes for Trump to pump out. Inauguration day is going to be gold. Trump on Twitter soiling himself all day, probably will get banned from the platform on the same day. :D
 

MrSquished

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It's easy to say, but is the plan to just abandon - for example - the 35% or so of the population of MS who are Southern Blacks? Should we just let them be ground under the heel of your neoconfederacy?

Sure, sure, give them (and anyone else who might want out) the opportunity to move. I'm not entirely sure folks who suggest this sort of thing are fully considering the logistics of relocating 10s of millions of people.

Plus there'd be minor little issues like what to do about the military bases in these regions.

What do you think is going to happen to big blue cities and states when Republicans further erode the institutions of our country and turn us into an oligarchy/autocracy kind of like Russia has going on with Putin and the oligarchs. Don't forget, Barr and Trump tried to withhold federal funding from major cities including NYC for being anarchistic zones already. I can guarantee you the primary reason any Covid relief is being held up is because Mitch doesn't want a dime of aid going to big blue cities in blue states. They will try to rule the federal coffers completely based upon politics and try to strangle the blue states for sure, affecting tens of millions.

A lot of people are gonna get fucked whether we stick this out as a country, or split it up. At least if we split the country up we will maintain a large area of the country with true democratic values.
 
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nickqt

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What do you think is going to happen to big blue cities and states when Republicans further erode the institutions of our country and turn us into an oligarchy/autocracy kind of like Russia has going on with Putin and the oligarchs. Don't forget, Barr and Trump tried to withhold federal funding from major cities including NYC for being anarchistic zones already. I can guarantee you the primary reason any Covid relief is being held up is because Mitch doesn't want a dime of aid going to big blue cities in blue states. They will try to rule the federal coffers completely based upon politics and try to strangle the blue states for sure, affecting tens of millions.

A lot of people are gonna get fucked whether we stick this out as a country, or split it up. At least if we split the country up we will maintain a large area of the country with true democratic values.
Weaponize Federalism. Blue states can get their safety nets, Red states can get their block grants so their oligarchs can buy up more of the government and land.


A soft Blue States of America and Red States of America would decrease the overt friction and violence caused by a civil war, and would give each side a chance to see whether the grass is greener on their own side.
 

Fenixgoon

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Weaponize Federalism. Blue states can get their safety nets, Red states can get their block grants so their oligarchs can buy up more of the government and land.


A soft Blue States of America and Red States of America would decrease the overt friction and violence caused by a civil war, and would give each side a chance to see whether the grass is greener on their own side.

interesting proposition.. though it makes you wonder, is it moral/ethical to essentially let people hurt themselves, or to goad their representatives into doing so? not sure how i feel about that.
 
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