State Department Intelligence Reports Indicate Unprecedented PR Damage for US re Iraq Abuse: US looks for stratey

tnitsuj

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Honestly, I don't think there is a strategy that will work now. The military shouldn't have waited until 60 Minutes II broke the story, they shoudl have come forward themselves and pre-empted all this. It is too late now, the hole is already dug.

washingtonpost.com

In U.S., Seeking To Limit Damage

By Robin Wright
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, May 4, 2004; Page A18

The Bush administration is struggling to develop a damage-control strategy to counter the mounting global backlash against the United States after revelations that U.S. military and intelligence personnel abused Iraqi prisoners, according to U.S. officials.

The search for a strong response follows a review of international reaction by the State Department's Intelligence and Research Department that revealed devastating fallout and criticism well beyond the Islamic world, from Brazil and Britain to Hong Kong, U.S. officials said.

"It's very, very sobering," said a State Department official briefed on the INR review. He requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject. "It's like the song by the Who, 'Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.' That's the widespread perception we have to deal with."

U.S. diplomats around the world have sent troubling cables back to Washington including angry commentary in editorials and government condemnation of the abuse, with warnings that the graphic photographs of naked Iraqi prisoners with their gloating jailers could seriously affect U.S. standing and broader foreign policy, U.S. officials said. Many U.S. embassies have asked for guidance on how to respond, they added.

"There are certainly a lot of people who are very disturbed by the pictures and the reports that are coming out," State Department spokesman Richard Boucher told reporters.

The administration has rushed to get top foreign policy officials to condemn the abuses. The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Richard B. Myers, was hastily added to the Sunday talk show lineup, and Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, the chief U.S. military spokesman in Baghdad, appeared on morning programs yesterday. Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, who will assume responsibility for Iraq after the handover of power on June 30, is to appear on CNN's "Larry King Live" tonight.

The effort to produce a convincing explanation of what happened at Iraq's notorious Abu Ghraib prison comes as the State Department prepares to release its annual report accounting for how the United States supports human rights and democracy around the world. The report is due out Wednesday.

The administration's position is that the acts were by a handful of offenders violating U.S. policy and that they will be dealt with harshly. After talking with Guatemalan President Oscar Berger Perdomo, Powell called the abuse "despicable acts" and stressed that the United States is in Iraq "to help, not to hurt."

"And so the acts of a few, I trust, will not overwhelm the goodness coming from so many of our soldiers, and I'm sure that the investigations will get to the bottom of this and make sure that any problems that exist in the prison system will be fixed, and fixed promptly," Powell said.

But U.S. officials are concerned because the fallout extends well beyond the Middle East to public opinion among European allies, including countries in the U.S.-led coalition.

The INR survey cited a British commentary calling the treatment at Abu Ghraib "barbaric idiocy" and an Italian commentator warning that the abuse reflected a failure of leadership that will produce hundreds of new recruits for al Qaeda, said the State Department official familiar with the review. Britain and Italy are two of the key European contributors to the U.S.-led coalition.

In Brazil, the INR review noted, a commentary called for global condemnation of the U.S. abuses and describing treatment at Abu Ghraib as "the bastard daughter" of the open-ended detention of suspected al Qaeda detainees at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

The international outrage has been so fierce that the current approach of blaming a few individuals is inadequate, U.S. officials say. "We're now realizing that we can't expect the Pentagon to handle all of these criticisms and requests to focus on the public affairs disaster this has caused," said the State Department official, who is involved in the strategy discussions.

"We're frantically working this issue and trying to come up with a strategy," he added. "We need to beat this back. People want not just words but action . . . to deal with this international firestorm."

© 2004 The Washington Post Company
 

Tripleshot

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The mid east war drums are beating loadly and broadly over this outrage, and this administration hasn't a clue how to stop it. Better prepare for either an embarrassing pullout, or one mother of a war with sympathizors all over the globe. These so called soldiers, representitives of the so called noble cause of the U.S. occupation/liberation just blew away any sense of legtimacy of this ill concieved war this tard president foisted on the US and world at large. You can't win the hearts and minds of these people with Al Jazzera broadcasting across Arabia the pictures and stories of these prisoners.

Can anyone fault them their outrage? Probably,some ignorant neocon bigot will.:|
 

beer

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Originally posted by: Tripleshot
The mid east war drums are beating loadly and broadly over this outrage, and this administration hasn't a clue how to stop it. Better prepare for either an embarrassing pullout, or one mother of a war with sympathizors all over the globe. These so called soldiers, representitives of the so called noble cause of the U.S. occupation/liberation just blew away any sense of legtimacy of this ill concieved war this tard president foisted on the US and world at large. You can't win the hearts and minds of these people with Al Jazzera broadcasting across Arabia the pictures and stories of these prisoners.

Can anyone fault them their outrage? Probably,some ignorant neocon bigot will.:|

couldnt have said it better myself
 

dahunan

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Aren't Muslims some of the most sexually oppressed peoples on the planet? Seeing their fellow Muslims being Sexually Asssaulted and Humiliated by "The Snakes Head" has got to be driving them completely insane.

It is a great way to capture the hearts and minds of ..... every single potential terrorist... it has impassioned them to be filled with hatred.
 

Format C:

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Could someone point me to the news articles about the outrage expressed by these Arabic countries when four U.S. contractors were killed, drug through the streets, mutilated and burned, and hung over a bridge? I'd like to do a bit of comparitive analysis. Thank you.
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Format C:
Could someone point me to the news articles about the outrage expressed by these Arabic countries when four U.S. contractors were killed, drug through the streets, mutilated and burned, and hung over a bridge? I'd like to do a bit of comparitive analysis. Thank you.

I understand your concerns. So are you saying that the two incidents are similar?
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Format C:
Do you have any links for me?


Do you think I am a Muslim or an Arab who reads Arabic? Do you hold all Muslims/Arabs responsible for the crimes in Fallujah?

What I find consusing about your post is that is seems you are trying to justify rape and sexual abuse of Prisoners Of War?
 

B00ne

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I dont think the PR damage to the US is all that extreme. Ppl just see confirmed what they wre always thinking about what is going on in Guantanamo. And the reports of the released UK "combattants" dont seem far out anymore.

Dunno what the middle east might be making of this though
 

beer

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Originally posted by: Format C:
So you can't help me then? Maybe someone else can find some links. Thank you.

Who invaded who again?
Who doesn't want an occupation?
Who doesn't want to have unfamiliar political ideologies forced upon them with guns and tanks?

Oh....that's right

Not saying Fallujah was justified, but if we hadn't taken unilteral action with absolutely no conclusive evidence supporting our reasons, this whole situation would have been completely avoided. And then the rest of the world wouldn't be saying to us, "haha, you're on your own"
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Format C:
Still no links? Damn.

I think people are confused by why you want links when two wrongs will never make a right - or will they?
 

chess9

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Get us out of Iraq NOW. As I've said at least 4 times, we are doing more harm than good every day we are there. We are harming Israel, we are harming the peace process between Israel and the Palestinians, we are destroying our credibility with the rest of the world, we are wasting billions of our tax dollars, we are killing innocent civilians, and we are killing AMERICANS.

How could anyone in America continue to support this war? It is an unmitigated disaster.

-Robert
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Format C:
Still no links? Damn.
No links but compare the outrage felt here when those Mercenaries were mutilated and multiply that a hundred times and I think you will have an appropriate gage about how the Muslims feel regarding the mistreatment of those Iraqi Prisoners.