Starting to like Bloomberg

[mect]

Bloomberg is a new guy in a crowded field of moderates, Bernie is the liberal standard bearer, has been around, and actually lost a big chunk of supporters since he ran last time.

No, he hasn't lost a lot of supporters. As you pointed out, its a much more crowded field compared to last time. A common fallacy I keep seeing people make is assuming that people select a candidate based on their positions, but I've seen no data to support that, and significant evidence that contradicts it. I don't think supporters are divided based on progressive vs centrist ideologies. I think people support a candidate based on who they connect with. This is why Sanders is the most popular second choice for Biden supporters (33% of Biden supporters chose Sanders as their 2nd choice). He's essentially tied with Klobuchar and Bloomberg for 2nd choice among Buttigieg supporters (20% vs 22% for the other two).

2020 Democratic Primary

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[happy medium]

"Winning is more important than the candidate I vote for "

Classic!

 

[Brainonska511]

"Winning is more important than the candidate I vote for "

Classic!

Welcome to the "I don't get it" club.

You can support the candidate you want in the primary. In the hypothetical general election contest of your less preferred candidate vs the candidate you don't like at all, it's better to choose the lesser of two evils instead of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

 

[pmv]

There are a lot of considerations to take into account with each candidate, and the time to really do that is the primary. Want to push the party leftward? Vote for the progressive candidates in the primary and keep supporting progressive candidates at other levels. Want to put your party in power? Vote for the party's nominee in the winner-take-all binary election.

If that's the topic, then, agreed, hold your nose and cross your fingers behind your back and vote for the less odious party, even if it's a lousy candidate. But I think it's also irresponsible to support someone to be the candidate who will put people into that situation.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Bloomberg asks other candidates to drop out.

Bloomberg camp's "dire" warning: Bernie Sanders will soon be unstoppable

"I don’t think many people understand the dire circumstances here."

www.axios.com

Mike Bloomberg's campaign is sounding the alarm that Bernie Sanders will soon amass an unsurmountable delegate lead if the Democratic field stays split — and took the extraordinary step of suggesting laggards should drop out. "
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Still working hard for the Ministry of Truth and Revelation. You're a good boy and deserve an extra cookie with dinner tonight.

 

[Brainonska511]

If that's the topic, then, agreed, hold your nose and cross your fingers behind your back and vote for the less odious party, even if it's a lousy candidate. But I think it's also irresponsible to support someone to be the candidate who will put people into that situation.

I agree. That's why I won't be voting for Bloomberg and I won't be encouraging people to vote for him in in the primary.

 

[pmv]

GDR meaning East Germany? If so, lol. I thought he was too conservative?

GDR meaning Nazi Germany? Jesus Christ dude, he’s Jewish.

Your brain is just broken. Like I said, you’re no different than a Trumpkin.

I don't see how GDR could ever mean 'Nazi Germany' so not sure why you bought that up. Clearly it's supposed to refer to Soviet-era East Germany (who were, at least until our internet era of mass surveillance, the benchmark for spying on your population...that was kind of their USP.)

 

[qliveur]

GDR meaning East Germany? If so, lol. I thought he was too conservative?

GDR meaning Nazi Germany? Jesus Christ dude, he’s Jewish.

Your brain is just broken. Like I said, you’re no different than a Trumpkin.

I made the same argument about Stephen Miller.

 

[Jaskalas]

Bloomberg asks other candidates to drop out.

Bloomberg camp's "dire" warning: Bernie Sanders will soon be unstoppable

"I don’t think many people understand the dire circumstances here."

www.axios.com

Mike Bloomberg's campaign is sounding the alarm that Bernie Sanders will soon amass an unsurmountable delegate lead if the Democratic field stays split — and took the extraordinary step of suggesting laggards should drop out. "
"

He's not... wrong. This is totally going to a brokered convention.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

I'm not too sure about Bloomberg not releasing a financial statement until 70% of the delegates are chosen, but i support his not releasing his tax returns.

 

[Sunburn74]

Bloomberg doesn't have a shot in hell at the nomination or at beating trump. Its gonna be biden, sanders, pete or warren. I'd like warren to take it. My gut says its sanders or pete this time around.

 

[VRAMdemon]

There are clearly differences between the two.

But Bloomberg is a classic republican and Trump is a ....well, not at all republican.

neither of them are liberal, progressive democrats.

To be honest..I'm registered independent. Labels don't matter to me. Especially in this election. Getting Trump out on his ass is the main goal. We are not in normal times. For me - This election is for sanitation and stabilization. If it's Bloomberg - 4 years of Bloomberg or 4 more years of Trump, sorry that's a no brainer for me. Liberal, progressive, democrat , republican, libertarian, socialist, Green etc. are used as pejorative snarl words in today's political world and I refuse to participate in the pigeonholing of myself and society with labels. I have views across the broad political spectrum. I generally prefer regulated capitalist societies which will gradually, over time bring in a strong safety net. But this isn't the time for a purity revolution. IMO Americans are not going to vote to tear everything down in an economy where they are prospering. Americans will need to feel some kind of economic pain and have a real leader who builds coalitions and sells the ideas that we can do and be better. I don't see Bernie Sanders as being that guy. He's damaged goods. His old days as a communist sympathizer will do him in. We'll see if he broadens his message. It's early, and Bloomberg hasn't been tested. I'm remaining in the reality based community when judging Bloomberg's past and present and what he brings to the table. I'm not paying much attention or participating in the "Bloomberg is evil and a Republican!!" social media warfare troll farm reality TV shitshow.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Bloomberg doesn't have a shot in hell at the nomination or at beating trump. Its gonna be biden, sanders, pete or warren. I'd like warren to take it. My gut says its sanders or pete this time around.

Biden has lost exactly what Bloomberg has gained. I wanted Biden to be the guy but it just doesn’t appear it’s going to work.

 

[fskimospy]

I don't see how GDR could ever mean 'Nazi Germany' so not sure why you bought that up. Clearly it's supposed to refer to Soviet-era East Germany (who were, at least until our internet era of mass surveillance, the benchmark for spying on your population...that was kind of their USP.)

Nazi Germany in its later stages was also known as the Greater German Reich, which would also translate to the GDR in German.

 

[brycejones]

This is one of the most disingenuous talking points. It's especially appropriate that it's being used in a Mike Bloomberg thread, considering Bloomberg would incinerate poor people to heat his home if he could.

Look at the person who is happy about your post. Think about the outcome that person wants.

Or you can keep going full brandonbull.

 

[brandonbull]

How you feeling about the Blooming idiot now?

 

[brycejones]

I made the same argument about Stephen Miller. View attachment 17271

You attempted to argue that Miller couldn't be a white nationalist because as a Jew he couldn't possibly be white.

Of course the difference in the arguments here is that Miller has actually promoted white nationalist positions while Bloomberg so far has never stated a desire to put people in ovens.

 

[qliveur]

He's getting gangbanged by the other candidates.

You didn't actually. In fact you posted some cowardly bull shit and wouldn't come out and say what you really wanted to say directly.

What you attempted to argue was that Miller couldn't be a white nationalist because as a Jew he couldn't possibly be white.

That's a barefaced lie.

 

[brycejones]

He's getting gangbanged by the other candidates.

That's a barefaced lie.

See you could man up and own your shit but you decided not to. Have you forgotten the search function here?

Now I'm a white supremacist.

lol

Maybe you should try asking Jews if they consider themselves white.

A Jewish Nazi?

lol

A Jewish white supremacist

Does that make you feel better or do you want to quibble some more?

I've missed your posts decrying the times George Soros has been called a Nazi. Perhaps you can link them up?

A Jewish white supremacist?

lol

Who is being dishonest again?

 

[qliveur]

You are.

Nowhere did I say a Jew can't be white.

Why don't you edit your original post some more? Too bad I already quoted it.

 

[brycejones]

You are.

Nowhere did I say a Jew can't be white.

Why don't you edit your original post some more? Too bad I already quoted it.

Who me? is some weak ass bull shit. The quotes are there, your intent is pretty damn clear.

 

[qliveur]

Who me? is some weak ass bull shit. The quotes are there, your intent is pretty damn clear.

It's clear that I never said a Jew can't be white.

 

[brycejones]

I never said a Jew can't be white.

Who you? If you didn't then the idea of Jewish white supremacist wouldn't be very funny would it? All we have to go on is the words you posted here and again your intent is clear.

 

[qliveur]

Liar.

 

[qliveur]

Who me? is some weak ass bull shit. The quotes are there, your intent is pretty damn clear.

What's really weak are your mind-reading skills.