Stargate: Universe....Richard Dean Anderson must be rolling in his grave...

[Jeff7]

Agreed - I can do the same with TNG. SG1 was incredibly fun to watch, in no small part because they didn't take themselves seriously at all times (see the two shows about a show being made about SG1, basically.)

SG1 when O'Neil was promoted wasn't as good (well, after Anubis was taken care of) but it was still quite watchable. Even the two made for TV movies were fine.

WACKO!

 

[JC]

True dat....but seriously, Ben Browder was a great choice to replace (supplant?) RDA.

 

[ViRGE]

In SG1, they really didn't bring a character along all the time that was meant to annoy you. They occasionally had McCay show up to be annoying, but Sam, Tealc, ONiel, Jackson...weren't terribly annoying.

In SGA, McCay specialized in being....well, the one that should be thrown out the airlock.

McKay was originally created to be the foil to Carter in SG1, which meant he was all annoying all the time. Once SGA got moving he transitioned to insufferable genius. Which is to say he's still a larger than life character, but he's an enjoyable one. Depending on the episode it's easy enough to empathize with either McKay once again having to save the day in the nick of time ("Okay that's it, snap!") or with the rest of the crew for having to put up with his quirks.

Personally I thought he was the best character, but that's just me. I mean be blew up three-quarters of a solar system!

True dat....but seriously, Ben Browder was a great choice to replace (supplant?) RDA.

Browder is always good for starting an argument among fans, but overall I do agree that of anyone they could replace RDA with, he was the best choice.

 

[Childs]

McKay was originally created to be the foil to Carter in SG1, which meant he was all annoying all the time. Once SGA got moving he transitioned to insufferable genius. Which is to say he's still a larger than life character, but he's an enjoyable one. Depending on the episode it's easy enough to empathize with either McKay once again having to save the day in the nick of time ("Okay that's it, snap!") or with the rest of the crew for having to put up with his quirks.

One thing about SGA that I didn't like was it turned into the Rodney McKay show. I think that character is best experienced in small doses, like guest staring on SG1. I did like the second banana scientists in SG1. They could carry an episode by themselves, but again, too much of it would have ruined it.

 

[destrekor]

Browder is always good for starting an argument among fans, but overall I do agree that of anyone they could replace RDA with, he was the best choice.

Browder was awesome, I enjoyed his work on Farscape and then SG1. At first I wasn't a fan of him in SG1, but I couldn't tell if I didn't like the acting, or the character. But as the series progressed, I forgot all about that and quickly grew to like him. I didn't like him as much as RDA, but... I think that was because RDA's character was simply phenomenal and a hoot to watch. They didn't write Browder's character to the same level, but I think Browder could have performed RDA's original role just as well, based on the success of his character in Farscape.

It's a bummer that Browder isn't tapped more for shows, he either isn't really actively looking for more work, or for whatever reason, show runners weren't/aren't impressed by him. He does cameo roles but hasn't done anything big since SG1.

 

[SunnyD]

SG:U actually set up really nicely to make for a nice "reboot" of the series at some point down the road.

 

[ViRGE]

It's a bummer that Browder isn't tapped more for shows, he either isn't really actively looking for more work, or for whatever reason, show runners weren't/aren't impressed by him. He does cameo roles but hasn't done anything big since SG1.

I suspect he's suffering from a bit of typecasting. There hasn't exactly been much of a need lately for a humorous male lead in a space opera.

 

[JC]

I suspect he's suffering from a bit of typecasting. There hasn't exactly been much of a need lately for a humorous male lead in a space opera.

Maybe a reboot of Andromeda is in order? Let's bring it!

 

[destrekor]

I suspect he's suffering from a bit of typecasting. There hasn't exactly been much of a need lately for a humorous male lead in a space opera.

Yeah

Maybe he not only IS typecast, but is deservedly so? I haven't witnessed his acting in any of the one- or two-episode appearances listed on IMDB. He did just a damn fine job in those roles... perhaps that's all he can really achieve? I like to imagine he could do more, but who knows.

I feel like he could really fit into similar roles as Nathan Fillion, they just have to tease the right character concept out of him. I could imagine an unrealized reality with Browder in Firefly. Something quirky in the style of Castle could do well too.
NBC/Syfy really need a new outstanding quirky series, something like a cross between 12 Monkeys and Dominion or something.
I don't know what it is, but they've been trying to get SOMETHING out there, but can't seem to get the show runners or writing crew or the combined creative talent to get something well-received. Defiance, Helix, Dominion, Haven... well it seems Haven might be decently good if the current ratings are to be trusted.

Speaking of long-lost stars I want to see more of: dammit, where the hell is Claudia Black? She must be making a killing on videogame voicework, she's everywhere in that industry. I loved her character and voice in Uncharted. Well frankly, I just love her voice. :biggrin:
And it turns out, Elana (from Uncharted) is in Haven, which, another bit I didn't know, is based on a Stephen King novella. :hmm: I might actually have to check this out. I mean, hell, it's on Season 3 on Syfy... that HAS to mean something, eh? Then again, I hear Helix is "meh" (which, for Syfy, is almost praise these days :awe, and that's on Season 2.

 

[Paratus]

The best things about SG1 & SGA is the writers knew who they were writing for, Sci-Fi fans. So many great references to other shows. Star Wars, Stat Trek, Farscape, hell even Seinfeld.

They also avoided the trap of ignoring solutions from previous epsiodes. I only watched the shows once they made it on Amazon prime but that show was awesome.

 

[ViRGE]

The best things about SG1 & SGA is the writers knew who they were writing for, Sci-Fi fans. So many great references to other shows. Star Wars, Stat Trek, Farscape, hell even Seinfeld.

Teal'c: You have been impregnated, without copulation.
Vala: Yes! And I'm absolutely terrified - have any of you ever heard anything like it?
Lt. Colonel Mitchell: W-Well.. there is one.
Teal'c: Darth Vader.
Vala: Really? How did that turn out?

And

Chaya: I am what you call an Ancient and it is also true that I can never offer your people sanctuary. But you are wrong about as to why I came here.
Sheppard: Why did you come here?
Chaya: You, John.
Sheppard: Me?
Chaya: I have lived in solitude for so long that when you asked me to come to Atlantis, I...
McKay: Oh my god, he is Kirk!

 

[JC]

OK, I'm about halfway through the second season. Seems they made some "adjustments" for the second season. Still some totally predictable plot threads...and some good ones. Beginning to wonder if the series got a cold cut-off, or got to wrap up. Not going to google that, no ruiners! lol

 

[lupi]

started watching the original series after it left showtime. started watching s1e1 today when playing around with prime. I've probably seen a good amount of the earlier episodes in repeats, but need to watch them back in order.

 

[notposting]

I never watched Universe.

SG-1 in season 1 was finding its legs but still had some really good episodes. I think seasons 3-5 and 7 are some of the best out there. Other seasons have their high points of course, but those are just some strong seasons.

Atlantis was okay -- first go around, once they bumped off Weirritating it got a lot better. Now, I can usually watch even the episodes she's in and I don't even hear her. La la la

The new movies look to be a complete reboot of everything. They wanted to continue off the old movie, but it's been so long. And they refuse to acknowledge anything about the shows since. You would think they could at least do something like what the new Star Trek reboot did, which is at least acknowledge the past (really, the fans) and not pretend it never happened.

 

[SolMiester]

thanks, will start with the movie tonight.

The book was awesome!!, twice as good as the movie!

 

[JC]

OK, finished both seasons....I guess maybe they didn't have a lot of notice that they got cancelled, thought their contract might thaw out in 3 years? lol

I just wish they hadn't killed off Eli's GF. Sure, she's still in "quarantined" memory, seems the Ancients should have been able to clone a body for her. TEAM ELI! lolol

 

[manimal]

 

[phucheneh]

I'm considering watching SG-1 just for Ben Browder. Nathan Fillion is an apt comparison; only he's more 'Nathan Fillion with space dementia.'

Is it like TNG? Can I just start watching the later episodes? Or do I have to sit through eight seasons of this? I watched DS9 because of you monkeys and barely survived the 150+ episodes that comprised that shitfest.

I need more scifi. I'm about to get desperate and watch fuckin' Seaquest.

 

[sandorski]

I'm considering watching SG-1 just for Ben Browder. Nathan Fillion is an apt comparison; only he's more 'Nathan Fillion with space dementia.'

Is it like TNG? Can I just start watching the later episodes? Or do I have to sit through eight seasons of this? I watched DS9 because of you monkeys and barely survived the 150+ episodes that comprised that shitfest.

I need more scifi. I'm about to get desperate and watch fuckin' Seaquest.

The way the story arches go, it's best to watch from the first episode, IMO. There is just so much referring back to previous things to just start watching elsewhere.

 

[destrekor]

I'm considering watching SG-1 just for Ben Browder. Nathan Fillion is an apt comparison; only he's more 'Nathan Fillion with space dementia.'

Is it like TNG? Can I just start watching the later episodes? Or do I have to sit through eight seasons of this? I watched DS9 because of you monkeys and barely survived the 150+ episodes that comprised that shitfest.

I need more scifi. I'm about to get desperate and watch fuckin' Seaquest.

The way the story arches go, it's best to watch from the first episode, IMO. There is just so much referring back to previous things to just start watching elsewhere.

And with SG-1, it's entirely worth it. I'm very picky for my sci-fi entertainment, I'm not trekkie, that's for sure. I've barely watched any Star Trek outside of the movies (original + new), fwiw.


And I've been satisfied with the 12 Monkeys SyFy series. If you need more sci-fi, that's not a bad place to start. I'm not holding my breath for The Expanse, but I certainly hope it is satisfying.

 

[phucheneh]

I'm fifteen minutes in and I'm pretty sure I was right about SG1 being terrible. Because this seems terrible.

Right now it's like:

TNG > Farscape > Enterprise > Continuum > DS9 > masturbating with sandpaper > Voyager

And this feels like it's gonna tie with Voyager.

 

[JujuFish]

I'm considering watching SG-1 just for Ben Browder. Nathan Fillion is an apt comparison; only he's more 'Nathan Fillion with space dementia.'

Is it like TNG? Can I just start watching the later episodes? Or do I have to sit through eight seasons of this?

The last two seasons of SG-1 were the worst. However, that's not Browder's fault. The entire Ori storyline was just so stupid.

 

[CZroe]

I'm fifteen minutes in and I'm pretty sure I was right about SG1 being terrible. Because this seems terrible.

Right now it's like:

TNG > Farscape > Enterprise > Continuum > DS9 > masturbating with sandpaper > Voyager

And this feels like it's gonna tie with Voyager.

They recut the pilot to make it shorter and get rid of the cliche'd crap. No MacGuyver joke, no "just because my sex organs are on the inside...," no nude scene (though there are versions without this which aren't the final cut).

First season is rough. It's old and it was not done on a syndication/network budget. Movie is pretty bad too. Worth pushing through, IMO.

 

[Paratus]

I'm fifteen minutes in and I'm pretty sure I was right about SG1 being terrible. Because this seems terrible.

Right now it's like:

TNG > Farscape > Enterprise > Continuum > DS9 > masturbating with sandpaper > Voyager

And this feels like it's gonna tie with Voyager.

The first season has some rough spots. But once it gets going it's great. Most shows taken a half season or two to find their legs.

 

[destrekor]

The first season has some rough spots. But once it gets going it's great. Most shows taken a half season or two to find their legs.

This.

If you can accept Farscape, meaning you got through the first season and enjoyed the premise enough to finish the series, then you can get through the slightly rough opening to SG1 and get through to the good parts. It takes a bit to really get going, but in time, the actors/characters seem to open up and the show seems to find the footing it needs.