Starbucks customer sues for $114 million

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iamme

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starbucks marketing team = dumbfvcks for not anticipating a huge response to free coffee coupons
 

smack Down

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Originally posted by: Aharami
scum lawyer.

What is wrong with holding a company libiable for a promise it made. Starbucks wouldn't think twice about sueing someone for walking out on a 114 million dollar tab so why should starbucks get to walk away from it obligations?
 

confused1234

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Skeeedunt

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: intogamer
Coffee is practiclly free to make for the company

coolatas/fruit drinkns are a bit more expensive

You're looking at it way too granular. Consider how much it actually costs them when you add up advertising, marketing material, store employees, company beurocracy (managers, accountants, other staff at HQ), distribution, etc. etc. etc.

If hordes of people are coming in for free coffee, you're not giving away cents of coffee. You're losing a LOT of revenue that pays just the cost of running business, which means your expenses are higher than your profit.

That's not so much the case here though. For the most part, you still have your normal customers coming in paying normal prices. The only thing that's different is that you have X more people showing up, and it's costing you X times (the small cost of brewed coffee) to serve them.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: confused1234
...just because i made a post about religion doesnt make me retardted or a troll:disgust:

umm...I beg to differ. Considering where ALL threads about religion end up going, you HAVE to be either too retarded to realize it, or a troll who's doing it on purpose.

Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: Aharami
scum lawyer.

What is wrong with holding a company libiable for a promise it made. Starbucks wouldn't think twice about sueing someone for walking out on a 114 million dollar tab so why should starbucks get to walk away from it obligations?

If the coupon was legit, and if the store was legally obligated to accept it (I'm not sure how Starbucks organizes their stores, but not all locations "choose to participate" in certain coupon deals), THEN Starbucks is responsible for all $4 or so of coffee that they promised. And not a cent more.

If someone walked out on a $5 tab, you can bet that Starbucks wouldn't be suing them for $114 million. Your analogy SUCKS.

Originally posted by: Skeeedunt
That's not so much the case here though. For the most part, you still have your normal customers coming in paying normal prices. The only thing that's different is that you have X more people showing up, and it's costing you X times (the small cost of brewed coffee) to serve them.

If that logic were true, then piracy would be completely and utterly harmless as well. The fact of the matter is that if these coupons are floating around, a lot of people who otherwise WOULD be buying coffee, will just get it for free. Starbucks loses a lot more than X*cost per cup.
 

ElFenix

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i'm guessing this guy got laughed at by the first 20 lawyers he went to
 

Babbles

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Is a company legally obligated to accept every and all coupon that is out there? I thought most retailers always have an out in their fine print somewhere, much like what happens when a store accidentally mis-advertise some product at some ridiculously low price. Many retailers may honor the screw up, but are not legally obligated to do so.

At least that is my understanding of some things.
 

Extelleron

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This is one of those "Why didn't think of this first!" moments. If only I had thought earlier........... $114M could be mine :p

I don't know if he'll win, but it's a pretty dumb case IMO. $114 Million? :confused:
 

Skeeedunt

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Skeeedunt
That's not so much the case here though. For the most part, you still have your normal customers coming in paying normal prices. The only thing that's different is that you have X more people showing up, and it's costing you X times (the small cost of brewed coffee) to serve them.

If that logic were true, then piracy would be completely and utterly harmless as well. The fact of the matter is that if these coupons are floating around, a lot of people who otherwise WOULD be buying coffee, will just get it for free. Starbucks loses a lot more than X*cost per cup.

That's true to a degree. Seems like the majority of people who go to starbucks don't get brewed coffee though, so it's just a matter of how many would rather jump on this deal than get their usual $7 five shot venti mocha.

(The piracy analogy is a little weak, considering these people aren't exactly getting free coffee for life...)
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: Skeeedunt
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: intogamer
Coffee is practiclly free to make for the company

coolatas/fruit drinkns are a bit more expensive

You're looking at it way too granular. Consider how much it actually costs them when you add up advertising, marketing material, store employees, company beurocracy (managers, accountants, other staff at HQ), distribution, etc. etc. etc.

If hordes of people are coming in for free coffee, you're not giving away cents of coffee. You're losing a LOT of revenue that pays just the cost of running business, which means your expenses are higher than your profit.

That's not so much the case here though. For the most part, you still have your normal customers coming in paying normal prices. The only thing that's different is that you have X more people showing up, and it's costing you X times (the small cost of brewed coffee) to serve them.

And you don't think that normal paying customers didn't get those coupons? :confused:
 

JulesMaximus

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The judge should throw everyone employed by that law firm and the plaintiff in jail for a year for wasting the taxpayer's time and money.
 

151528

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what a tool, obviosly a just a tight ass that dont wont to shell out a couple of bucks.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Skeeedunt
(The piracy analogy is a little weak, considering these people aren't exactly getting free coffee for life...)

Isn't this the coupon that you print out, though? So they get pretty much as much coffee as they like. If it's a coupon that has to be given to you, well, Starbucks should know exactly how many coupons they had made, and so they wouldn't be ending the promotion early. Equate printing it out with burning a CD, and reprinting it with downloading a newer version/more recent album/latest movie, and the analogy is a bit closer:p

I admit it's not perfect, but you simply can't claim that coupon madness costs Starbucks next to nothing.
 

Skeeedunt

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Skeeedunt
(The piracy analogy is a little weak, considering these people aren't exactly getting free coffee for life...)

Isn't this the coupon that you print out, though? So they get pretty much as much coffee as they like. If it's a coupon that has to be given to you, well, Starbucks should know exactly how many coupons they had made, and so they wouldn't be ending the promotion early. Equate printing it out with burning a CD, and reprinting it with downloading a newer version/more recent album/latest movie, and the analogy is a bit closer:p

I admit it's not perfect, but you simply can't claim that coupon madness costs Starbucks next to nothing.

Ah, well, if you go in twice a day with one, I could see how it would be a more serious problem ;) I figured they would shoot you down after you had used one once.

Anyway, maybe you're right, I obviously have no idea what the real financial imact on them is. A couple months a starbucks by me was giving away free coffee all morning (they had a girl standing outside with a coffee-dispensing backpack :confused: pouring it into cups and handing it out to people), so I assumed it wouldn't be much of an issue for them, but apparently it was.