Specop 007
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Probably a tie between Sovereign and Prometheus. Defiant is classed as an "Escort Destroyer", whereas Galaxy is a Battlecruiser, Sovereign and Prometheus would both be Dreadnaught/Battleship classes.
shortylickens
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I did a search for Nerd on this page and only got 2 hits.
This leads me to believe the above discussion was more about the OP issue than revealing people as nerds.
For the love of Saint Jude people!
Go play Homeworld or Master of Orion. At least do something mildly life-like.
I'm gonna go take a nap. Hopefully with a wet dream.
This leads me to believe the above discussion was more about the OP issue than revealing people as nerds.
For the love of Saint Jude people!
Go play Homeworld or Master of Orion. At least do something mildly life-like.
I'm gonna go take a nap. Hopefully with a wet dream.
YES THEY CAN! THEY DID ON ONE EPISODE OF Voyager! A bunch of Bioships linked their weapons together and pwnd a Borg-controlled planet.
Old Vader, no contest, Young Vader... hrmmm he was so emo that he might just be able to make Q cut his own wrists!
Jeff7
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Destroy? No, that'd take awhile, like the fighter jets in Independence Day picking away at a huge alien ship with missiles. But to disable it - that's easy. A single A-wing kamikazed into the bridge of the Executor, and it lost control. I think 1 photon torpedo would do far more damage than that, like take out the entire bridge completely. We got to see the damage potential of a small fighter in Empire Strikes Back, when a snowspeeder crashed into the ground. Small fireball = not a lot of damage. 1 photon torpedo = big damn explosion, like about an area of 1/4 that of 1 side of a Borg cube (from the episode with Enterprise-D's first encounter with the Borg).
Or target the power reactor instead. Call in a couple of freighters to tow the Executor on a collision course with a planet or star, and it won't be able to do anything about it with no bridge or primary power source.
Major technical blunder there though.
"If they did go into light speed they could be on the other side of the galaxy by now."
They said it there. Light speed. Here, light speed gets you across the galaxy in more than 100,000 years. There, either they've got one damn tiny galaxy, or else, in accordance with my Wattage Inflation and Skewed Physics theories, Light Speed gives you more bang for the buck.
Defiant casually maneuvers in, picking off TIE Fighters just for the hell of it, fires one torpedo, and saunters away to a safe distance to enjoy the scenery.
Just to be asses though, as the Defiant flies down the trench, they'd just quick stop and watch Vader's TIE smash into the rear shields. Poof.
Ok, time for new threads:
Yoda vs Sauron
Gollum vs Jar Jar Binks vs Dobby
C-3PO vs Hitchiker's Guide Marvin
Harry Potter vs Gandalf
Q vs anyone
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dainthomas
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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Destroy? No, that'd take awhile, like the fighter jets in Independence Day picking away at a huge alien ship with missiles. But to disable it - that's easy. A single A-wing kamikazed into the bridge of the Executor, and it lost control. I think 1 photon torpedo would do far more damage than that, like take out the entire bridge completely. We got to see the damage potential of a small fighter in Empire Strikes Back, when a snowspeeder crashed into the ground. Small fireball = not a lot of damage. 1 photon torpedo = big damn explosion, like about an area of 1/4 that of 1 side of a Borg cube (from the episode with Enterprise-D's first encounter with the Borg).
Or target the power reactor instead. Call in a couple of freighters to tow the Executor on a collision course with a planet or star, and it won't be able to do anything about it with no bridge or primary power source.
Major technical blunder there though.
"If they did go into light speed they could be on the other side of the galaxy by now."
They said it there. Light speed. Here, light speed gets you across the galaxy in more than 100,000 years. There, either they've got one damn tiny galaxy, or else, in accordance with my Wattage Inflation and Skewed Physics theories, Light Speed gives you more bang for the buck.
Defiant casually maneuvers in, picking off TIE Fighters just for the hell of it, fires one torpedo, and saunters away to a safe distance to enjoy the scenery.
Just to be asses though, as the Defiant flies down the trench, they'd just quick stop and watch Vader's TIE smash into the rear shields. Poof.
Ok, time for new threads:
Yoda vs Sauron
Gollum vs Jar Jar Binks vs Dobby
C-3PO vs Hitchiker's Guide Marvin
Harry Potter vs Gandalf
Q vs anyone
Just to settle this thread, the whale probe from ST4 would pwn any ship in either universe. Not a lot you can do with no power.
Yoda > Sauron. All he'd have to do is use the force to rip off the ring and fling it into Mt Doom. If it's before Sauron creates the ring, then I think he might have more of a shot.
Gollum > Dobby > Jar Jar. He's wiry.
Marvin > Threepio. Unless annoying english accents can kill.
Gandalf >> Harry Potter. C'mon, a Balrog couldn't even kill him.
The Mule from 'Foundation' would pwn Q.
Fighters can do an insane amount of damage. If you had 6 missile boats in Star Wars, those could take down an Imperial Class Star Destroyer alone. Just load them up with rockets, and bam. Furthermore, you all are taking isolated incidents like the proton torp going down the tube in ANH and the A-Wing hitting the bridge in ROTJ. Most SW fans will agree that the Empire had dominating firepower in ROTJ and that they would'v eeasily won the battle at Endor, and that their failure was attributed to the death of the Emperor causing the Imperial Fleet to go crazy.
If you've played more advanced games like X-Wing Alliance, you will realize it's not that easy to take down an SSD. Even if you throw 6 squads of X-Wings at it, the mere fact that it carries some 144 fighters will be some challenge. Plus, turbolasers are damn good at taking out rockets and bombs and torpedos. You have to basically engate it at point blank and drop your bombs at close range so the lasers can't get you.... or you have to engage it with a capital ship...
If you've played more advanced games like X-Wing Alliance, you will realize it's not that easy to take down an SSD. Even if you throw 6 squads of X-Wings at it, the mere fact that it carries some 144 fighters will be some challenge. Plus, turbolasers are damn good at taking out rockets and bombs and torpedos. You have to basically engate it at point blank and drop your bombs at close range so the lasers can't get you.... or you have to engage it with a capital ship...
And THE FORCE dammit!:|
Oh come on, if you could use the force to affect the other person directly, why didn't Yoda just rip out his enemy's heart at the start of every battle?
Jeff7
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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
so how is a star destroyer going to resist a photon torpedo (which is a mass with a velocity of C, giving it a KE of 1/2 M C^2)?
Because the load of 1 pgoton torpedo is still a pop gun compared to a SSD.
But again, the collision of an A-wing into the bridge of the Executor was enough to disable it. Photon torpedo or quantum torpedo has a far greater yield than that.
That's about the ONLY wizardy thing Gandalf did. Come on, what's the other great stuff he did?
Blew up Sauruman's staff
Shone a bright light at some Nazgul
Fought Orcs with a sword
Put on a fireworks display
All that after living for "300 lives of men"?
Harry Potter is just a teenager and he does more wizardry than Gandalf.
Borg find Darth Vader.
"Oh damn, someone beat us to it."
Jedi are good sports. You wouldn't even need to do anything as big as ripping the heart out. Just squeeze an artery there or in the person's brain. Heart attack or stroke FTW.
You can use the Force to directly affect other beings. Force choke, anyone?
As much as I love Gollum/Smeagol, I think Dobby would have the edge. Gollum's big on Crazy HP, but Dobby's got the Magic option.
So
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You're right, if the enterprise gets a 1 in a million lucky shot, after flying slowly through a weaker portion of the shield and skimming along the dorsal surface of the ship which is studded with anti fighter turbolasers that might well vaporize the ship in one hit.
Also, the A-wing had FTL drives of it's own, you don't think those had more antimatter than the 1kg in a torpedo?
Maybe picard will use the force.
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It doesn't matter which ship is stronger, because prof X will just get into cerebro and kill all the jedis, with his mind!
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