since most of the technology is not logical/realistic or even consistent within its own universe (esp. for star wars), there's no sense in comparing across fantasy universes...
Bah - the better question here would be who wins in a mud wrestling match between Seven of Nine and Princess Leia.
Good Lord, you're right - there are lots of sites
(Here are two)
http://www.mrpoesmorgue.com/usvsd/borgs/nuborg.html
http://st-v-sw.net/STSWcompare.html
And the detail! Bringin up random occurances over the thousands of Star Trek episodes!
Jeff7
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The energy required to blow up a planet would be about as much as the sun puts out in a week, if memory serves me correctly.
8472 Bioships are better than the Death Star in another sense - they are very mobile, and can split up to fight other threats, and regroup for quick planetary assault.
O'Brien transported through another ship's shields once. Some sensor windows or something, it can be done.Originally posted by: crystal
Can't teleport through shield and we know those destroyers got shield.
Enterprise-E seemed to transport through shields - "Beam the Defiant survivors aboard." - there was no mention made of lowering shields. Had the shields been down, I imagine that they'd have been easy prey for a variety of Borg weapons.
Specop 007
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Originally posted by: Jeff7
I checked that out. My commentary:
That all said, Star Wars uses a lot more fantasy themes than Star Trek. Star Trek at least tried to use or stretch current scientific theories.
I mean come on, that page says that Slave-1's reactor output may be 7 Billion GW. That is utterly insane. That's almost 41x more power than the Earth receives from the sun.
Also have a look at the effects of damage from those "super-powerful" lasers on Slave-1. A direct hit on Obi-Wan's little fighter tore a small hole in it. If those weapons were truly dishing out 2 kilotons per shot, there would be absolutely nothing left of that little fighter.
Or when said weapons were firing at Obi-Wan point blank, they should have destroyed most of that landing platform. Either they're nowhere near the stated power, or else Obi-Wan's got a lot of asbestos in that robe of his.
Simple solution - fly to the other side of it.
Or else just land on it and wait for it to dump its garbage and leave.
I wont argue the scientific merits of one or the other. Both are fantasy, to say one is more grounded in reality then the other is like saying the tooth fairy is more believable then Santa Claus.
I simply stated based on the link provided that the Empire has stronger ships. The only reason that website can make a comparison is due to the fact the data was taken directly from the "manufacturers specs" so to speak.
Also of note, if the empire's ships really did put out that many GW then they had no need for the Death Star to destroy planets. Its all Imperialst Propaganda
And Seven of Nine FTW! Although Leia slave custume
And Seven of Nine FTW! Although Leia slave custume
No need to discuss how much W a weapon put out, but the amount of energy needed to send a ship across galaxy in million of light years (SW) vs 1000s of light (Trek) would point in SW favors.
Specop 007
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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Maybe the laws of physics in Star Wars Land differ considerably. Maybe the Watt has undergone inflation there, so 1 watt doesn't buy you as much as it used to, so now you need to use a GW instead of a W.
Ok, I admit I chuckled at that.
DanTMWTMP
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donno, the scale, resources, and the immense fire power of the Star Wars universe completely dwarfs the Star Trek universe. It's like having members of a whole football team take turns stomping a benign ant, and keep stomping it even though the first guy killed it.
So
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We had a thread about this with many hundreds of posts...look, the Executor was more than 34 times as long ans the enterprise and had tens of thousands of times the internal volume. HTF do you think it could destroy something that big? In the star trek, universe, they'd have trouble destroying a ROCK that big, if it came to a heavily fortified armored and shielded ship....no chance. A simple consideration of the energy on hand in the SSD's reactors to power all those weapons shows it's annhilate the enterprise.
They are two different universes, deal w/ it.
They are two different universes, deal w/ it.
yeah, good thing there's no ships in the star trek universe that can blow up planets or eat them. :roll:
thirdeye
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the problem with comparing these thing, is that you can't. ST was created with thought and is much more realistic. besides, just like in those Scorpion episodes, get a couple bioships and link 'em together. no need for a giant moon sized station. and the borg would make mince meat of any SW vessel.
I've read about this before, seen the "scientific" analysis, etc. Some say that Star Wars is massively more powerful than Star Trek, and others are the other way around. One item is how a ship in Star Wars could quickly travel across the entire galaxy, while in Star Trek it still takes quiet a while even for the Borg.
Specop 007
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LOL!
So "scientific" proof was given that SW would slaughter the Borg and you just pull something out of your chocolate starfish.
Nice.
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