Star Wars Question

nageov3t

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just a question for those who saw the original version in theaters.

is it true that in the initial release of the movie, Darth Vader revealed that he is Luke's father? my older cousin claims that the line was in the movie when she saw it in the theater back in the 70's, but I can't find anything on imdb to confirm.

just an old question I've always had... I first heard about it from her back in the mid-80's.
 

theblackbox

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they added darth vader in for the SE that came out many years later.

I believe it was in the original theatrical release, because those of us that were growing up back then were stunned.
 

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is it true that in the initial release of the movie, Darth Vader revealed that he is Luke's father? my older cousin claims that the line was in the movie when she saw it in the theater back in the 70's, but I can't find anything on imdb to confirm.

Your cousin is wrong, the line is from episode 5 not 4.
 

DurocShark

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Originally posted by: bsobel
is it true that in the initial release of the movie, Darth Vader revealed that he is Luke's father? my older cousin claims that the line was in the movie when she saw it in the theater back in the 70's, but I can't find anything on imdb to confirm.

Your cousin is wrong, the line is from episode 5 not 4.

 

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FWIW, the original theatrical release was NOT titled "Episode IV: A New Hope", that didn't happen until 'Empire Strikes Back' started filming. Up until then, it was just "Star Wars", no second title, no episode #.
 

theblackbox

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Originally posted by: dderidex
FWIW, the original theatrical release was NOT titled "Episode IV: A New Hope", that didn't happen until 'Empire Strikes Back' started filming. Up until then, it was just "Star Wars", no second title, no episode #.

actually, it was called star wars, but the rolling intro started with episode 4. The name was not attached until the SE because Star Wars was not available at the time of the release of Empire. Much different then the dvd laden world we live in now. At the time, there had been interviews with lucas talking about the supposed "journal of the whales" which was the 9 chapters that made up the star wars movies in lucas's head. He had intended from the begining for it to be that way.
 

DurocShark

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Originally posted by: theblackbox
Originally posted by: dderidex
FWIW, the original theatrical release was NOT titled "Episode IV: A New Hope", that didn't happen until 'Empire Strikes Back' started filming. Up until then, it was just "Star Wars", no second title, no episode #.

actually, it was called star wars, but the rolling intro started with episode 4. The name was not attached until the SE because Star Wars was not available at the time of the release of Empire. Much different then the dvd laden world we live in now. At the time, there had been interviews with lucas talking about the supposed "journal of the whales" which was the 9 chapters that made up the star wars movies in lucas's head. He had intended from the begining for it to be that way.

Yep.

What's funny is watching all the various "Making of.." vids that have come out over the years. I have the original one on VHS that was done in 77 where Lucas says a lot of things that are different from what he says later.

The only consistency was that he did say he had a much larger story that wouldn't fit into one movie. So he took the best parts of the rest of the story and put them into SW ANH. Otherwise that man talks out of his arse more than anyone else I've including certain presidents.
 

LtPage1

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Originally posted by: dderidex
FWIW, the original theatrical release was NOT titled "Episode IV: A New Hope", that didn't happen until 'Empire Strikes Back' started filming. Up until then, it was just "Star Wars", no second title, no episode #.

actually, it was originally episode IV: A New Hope, but Fox thought itd be too weird, so it was changed to just star wars for the original theatrical release..
 

DurocShark

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Originally posted by: Fudssa
Text

ROTFLMAO!!!!



A furious lightsaber duel is underway. DARTH VADER is backing LUKE SKYWALKER towards the end of the gantry. A quick move by Vader, chops off Luke's hand! It goes spinning off into the ventilation shaft. Luke backs away. He looks around, but realizes there's nowhere to go but straight down.

Darth Vader: Obi Wan never told you what happened to your father.

Luke: He told me enough! He told me you killed him!

Darth Vader: No, Luke... I am your father!

Luke: No. It can't be. That's not true. That's impossible!

Darth Vader: Search your feelings Luke... you know them to be true.

Luke: NOOoooo!

Darth Vader: Yes, it is true... and you know what else? You know that brass droid of yours?

Luke: Threepio?

Darth Vader: Yes... Threepio... I built him... when I was 7 years old.

Luke: No! ... Wait, huh?

Darth Vader: Seven years old. And what have you done? Look at yourself. No hand. No job. And you couldn't even levitate your own ship out of the swamp...

Luke: But... I destroyed your precious Death Star!

Darth Vader: But that was when you were 20! When I was 10, I single-handedly destroyed an entire Trade Federation Droid Control ship!

Luke: Well, it's not my fault...

Darth Vader: Oh, here we go... "Poor me... my father never gave me what I wanted for my birthday... boo hoo, my daddy's the Dark Lord of the Sith... Nobody loved me... waahhh wahhh!"

Luke: Shut up!

Darth Vader: You're a slacker! By the time I was your age, I had already exterminated the Jedi knights!

Luke: I used to race my T-16 through Beggar's Canyon.

Darth Vader: Oh, for the love of the Emperor... 10 years old, winner of the Boonta Eve Open... the Only human to ever fly a Pod Racer... right here baby!

Luke looks down the shaft. Takes a step towards it.

Darth Vader: I was wrong... You're not my kid... I don't know whose you are, but you sure ain't mine.

Luke takes a step off the platform, hesitates, then plunges down the shaft.

Darth Vader looks down after him.

Darth Vader: And get a haircut!
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: DurocShark
Originally posted by: Fudssa
Text

ROTFLMAO!!!!



A furious lightsaber duel is underway. DARTH VADER is backing LUKE SKYWALKER towards the end of the gantry. A quick move by Vader, chops off Luke's hand! It goes spinning off into the ventilation shaft. Luke backs away. He looks around, but realizes there's nowhere to go but straight down.

Darth Vader: Obi Wan never told you what happened to your father.

Luke: He told me enough! He told me you killed him!

Darth Vader: No, Luke... I am your father!

Luke: No. It can't be. That's not true. That's impossible!

Darth Vader: Search your feelings Luke... you know them to be true.

Luke: NOOoooo!

Darth Vader: Yes, it is true... and you know what else? You know that brass droid of yours?

Luke: Threepio?

Darth Vader: Yes... Threepio... I built him... when I was 7 years old.

Luke: No! ... Wait, huh?

Darth Vader: Seven years old. And what have you done? Look at yourself. No hand. No job. And you couldn't even levitate your own ship out of the swamp...

Luke: But... I destroyed your precious Death Star!

Darth Vader: But that was when you were 20! When I was 10, I single-handedly destroyed an entire Trade Federation Droid Control ship!

Luke: Well, it's not my fault...

Darth Vader: Oh, here we go... "Poor me... my father never gave me what I wanted for my birthday... boo hoo, my daddy's the Dark Lord of the Sith... Nobody loved me... waahhh wahhh!"

Luke: Shut up!

Darth Vader: You're a slacker! By the time I was your age, I had already exterminated the Jedi knights!

Luke: I used to race my T-16 through Beggar's Canyon.

Darth Vader: Oh, for the love of the Emperor... 10 years old, winner of the Boonta Eve Open... the Only human to ever fly a Pod Racer... right here baby!

Luke looks down the shaft. Takes a step towards it.

Darth Vader: I was wrong... You're not my kid... I don't know whose you are, but you sure ain't mine.

Luke takes a step off the platform, hesitates, then plunges down the shaft.

Darth Vader looks down after him.

Darth Vader: And get a haircut!

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