Star Wars: Episode 0 (Palpatine's path to Sith)

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Jaepheth

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It was the best investment in the history of investments.
Let's get something straight -- they bought Lucas Arts.

That's A LOT more than just Star Wars. It also the include Indiana Jones IP which they are set to reboot as well.

Star Wars alone will recover their $4B in a few years. Everything after that is gravy. They will reap the benefits of that "minor" investment for decades to come while they basically print their own money.

Everyone knows they were really just after the Grim Fandango IP :colbert:
 

nageov3t

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The prequels are universally lauded as pure shit.
I'm not talking about "pure shit in relation to being Star Wars"
I'm talking PURE SHIT of movies.

Please, watch episode II and try to find ONE redeeming quality about it. ANYTHING. (besides Natalie Portman in the midriff shirt)
I wouldn't say quite universally.

I know kids (ie: the target audience) who actually enjoyed them... my nieces (5 and 3) pretty much only know Star Wars through the prequels and the various cartoon incarnations.
 

phreaqe

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I thought II was better than III and I.

Now thats just wrong. 2 had the AWFUL chemistry between portman and whoever the crap played anikan. It was painful to watch. That being said i don't hate on 1 and 3 as much as others do. I enjoyed them for what they were, and moved on. I wont hold them in the same light as the original 3 which are still so fun to watch.
 

cbrunny

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Now thats just wrong. 2 had the AWFUL chemistry between portman and whoever the crap played anikan. It was painful to watch. That being said i don't hate on 1 and 3 as much as others do. I enjoyed them for what they were, and moved on. I wont hold them in the same light as the original 3 which are still so fun to watch.

Well, to each his own. 2 was my fav of the prequels. 1 was next fav, then 3. 3 was terri-super-mcawful-shitstorm bad.

1 would have been better if kids were better actors. Aside from the kid that played Anakin being just fucking awful, it wasn't a bad film imo.
 

BlitzPuppet

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Well, to each his own. 2 was my fav of the prequels. 1 was next fav, then 3. 3 was terri-super-mcawful-shitstorm bad.

1 would have been better if kids were better actors. Aside from the kid that played Anakin being just fucking awful, it wasn't a bad film imo.

I personally thought 1 was very childish, but since it followed a kid I dismissed it as being suitable.

2 was okay, some of it was corny but the general story was pretty good...still felt a little more snipped than it should have been.

Now 3, 3 was my fav out of the prequels. It was dark and sad, yes it did have some questionable moments as far as acting went, but I still thoroughly enjoyed it and have fond memories of seeing it first showing.

I guess I should be prepared to being called a "Fucking idiot" again by Preslove since I see he already did so due to the ignore list function not hiding quotes of those you have ignored. Sorry I have a different opinion :wub:

Do me a favor and put me on ignore and I'll never insult your "movie critic" self ever again <3.
 

destrekor

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Pod Racing was the only redeemable feature of the entire Star Wars prequel trilogy.

Why? Because it spurred the development of the Pod Racer video game (series?), which was absolutely fantastic! :)
 
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kids (ie: the target audience)

what does star wars offer as children's entertainment?

entire races of mechanical and flesh slave soldiers
uncountable slaughter of aforementioned slave soldiers
the murder of billions of innocent civilians
many individual murders and attempted murders, including children
1 rape (to death)
fraud regularly practiced by the "good guys"
drug use
smuggling
terrorism
torture
continuous and prominent dismemberment
civil slavery
racial supremacy
nazi-themed styling
 

BlitzPuppet

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Pod Racing was the only redeemable feature of the entire Star Wars prequel trilogy.

Why? Because it spurred the development of the Pod Racer video game (series?), which was absolutely fantastic! :)

What about the Clone Wars series? Some of the episodes were pretty good from what I remember.
 

smackababy

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So, making movies for a rabid fanbase that has been clamoring for more than a bunch of EU novels (most of which weren't great) to shed canon light on some characters is a cash grab?

More like a fucking gold mine, and a welcomed one.
 
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episode 1 should have been the palpatine story
episode 2 should have been his rise to power
episode 3 should have been the rise and fall of skywalker
 

smackababy

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episode 1 should have been the palpatine story
episode 2 should have been his rise to power
episode 3 should have been the rise and fall of skywalker

That certainly wouldn't have worked, considering episode 4-6 were the redemption of Anakin through Luke. The story had to be the rise and fall of Anakin Skywalker. The fact they botched episode 1-3 is solely on Lucas for surrounding himself with Yes Men and being an asshat. Had he been humble enough to realize he wasn't a great director and got lucky by creating an interesting universe (borrowing nearly every classical tragedy theme in the process), they could have been good. They story wasn't terrible: prodigy mislead by unseen evil forces, lust, and arrogance ends up tipping the scales and destroying the Jedi order AND the republic; son and daughter save their father, in turn saving the galaxy.
 

destrekor

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http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Palpatine

aka Disney cash grab.

I predict this movie will be made shortly after Episode 9 is finished.

Were you just musing that this story is something Disney will use after they wrap up the next trilogy? Or, have you seen it referenced elsewhere?


There are loads and loads of canon backstory, but that doesn't mean everything will become a movie.

I mean, if you want to make that leap, you can make movies chronicling the entire Sith backstory, from Palpatine, his master, to his master, to his master, to who knows, to Bane and the Brotherhood, and I'm sure you can include even more backstory to the time before Bane's Rule of Two.

This was all more than I knew but gleamed right from that page you linked. Thanks for that, btw.


There is an excessive amount of canon, not all of it will ever come to light in movie form. Much of this has already been covered in animated versions of novels, and will likely remain there. More might be introduced in video games if Disney is successful in rekindling the franchise.

This isn't a bad thing, IMHO... a good franchise with good direction is a fun diversion from light, something to sink time into and focus your thoughts on for awhile, and if you don't want all that, well there is plenty of standalone movies and other creative visions to enjoy. I like to have both. :)


I like the idea of Rogue One, if it truly shapes up to be a thematically darker war story as has been teased. That's a good use of a side story that isn't attached to a trilogy. They could do more one-off side stories and cover the ancient back story, but I don't think you'll see much in the way of Pre-Episode 1 canon covered in film, not as a focus, however. Perhaps they incorporate the story into dialogue or through other means, but I doubt they'll have a Palpatine-focused story, let alone anything else from that era.
 

cbrunny

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I personally thought 1 was very childish, but since it followed a kid I dismissed it as being suitable.

2 was okay, some of it was corny but the general story was pretty good...still felt a little more snipped than it should have been.

Now 3, 3 was my fav out of the prequels. It was dark and sad, yes it did have some questionable moments as far as acting went, but I still thoroughly enjoyed it and have fond memories of seeing it first showing.

I guess I should be prepared to being called a "Fucking idiot" again by Preslove since I see he already did so due to the ignore list function not hiding quotes of those you have ignored. Sorry I have a different opinion :wub:

Do me a favor and put me on ignore and I'll never insult your "movie critic" self ever again <3.

Wha? You think I'm going to call you a fucking idiot because we don't agree on which star wars prequel was best? Nah. I'm an adult.

I must be getting a bad-boy rep around here tho.
 

BlitzPuppet

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Wha? You think I'm going to call you a fucking idiot because we don't agree on which star wars prequel was best? Nah. I'm an adult.

I must be getting a bad-boy rep around here tho.

No no no, that was directed towards Preslove. Not you!

The first part of my post was in response to your's, the 2nd part was due to what I saw Homer's post quote to what Preslove posted. He tends to call me a fucking idiot every time I say I didn't hate the prequels.
 

cbrunny

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No no no, that was directed towards Preslove. Not you!

The first part of my post was in response to your's, the 2nd part was due to what I saw Homer's post quote to what Preslove posted. He tends to call me a fucking idiot every time I say I didn't hate the prequels.

So you're saying I don't have a bad-boy rep? Damn. I thought I was gonna get some serious internet chicks.

er wait. Maybe I don't want that.
 

zinfamous

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Now thats just wrong. 2 had the AWFUL chemistry between portman and whoever the crap played anikan. It was painful to watch. That being said i don't hate on 1 and 3 as much as others do. I enjoyed them for what they were, and moved on. I wont hold them in the same light as the original 3 which are still so fun to watch.

I think II was the worst, by far. As you mentioned--the horrible chemistry, endless whining from that kid, and the fact that most of the scenes were designed to promote some inevitably shitty video game.

seriously--the droid factory? tell me they didn't have game design in mind when staging that piece of shit.
 
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drbrock

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2 was the worst. If only by the final scene when they have a ton of Jedi against a small army of droids. They should have crushed the droid army. In the clone wars cartoons whenever there was a Jedi on the battlefield things got real.

1 was not horrible but not great. I think it had the best music and fight scenes. Maul was the best villian of the series. Jar Jar ruined that movie for me.

3 was great imho. Better than ROJ IMHO. Obi Wan and Skywalker were a blast to watch fight each other. If there was some decent acting on Darth's part it would have been a great movie.

The original trilogy is still the best by far but the prequels get a lot of hate. Watched Furious 7 over the weekend and I would take any Star Wars movie over that turd.
 
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i'm shocked at how anyone can defend the prequel movies.


that about sums it up. stick jar jar in between them.

as amazing as it is, the prequels would have been even worse if lucas had his way:

deleted scenes
phantom menace
attack of the clones
revenge of the sith

utterly shocking how that drivel made it out of a rough draft, never mind how it's mostly complete or even trimmed from a potential release version. shocking!
 
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zinfamous

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2 was the worst. If only by the final scene when they have a ton of Jedi against a small army of droids. They should have crushed the droid army. In the clone wars cartoons whenever there was a Jedi on the battlefield things got real.

1 was not horrible but not great. I think it had the best music and fight scenes. Maul was the best villian of the series. Jar Jar ruined that movie for me.

3 was great imho. Better than ROJ IMHO.

D:
 
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i haven't seen the original trilogy yet.

suprised i made it this far in my life without getting a beating.
 

Slew Foot

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2 was the worst. If only by the final scene when they have a ton of Jedi against a small army of droids. They should have crushed the droid army. In the clone wars cartoons whenever there was a Jedi on the battlefield things got real.

1 was not horrible but not great. I think it had the best music and fight scenes. Maul was the best villian of the series. Jar Jar ruined that movie for me.

3 was great imho. Better than ROJ IMHO. Obi Wan and Skywalker were a blast to watch fight each other. If there was some decent acting on Darth's part it would have been a great movie.

The original trilogy is still the best by far but the prequels get a lot of hate. Watched Furious 7 over the weekend and I would take any Star Wars movie over that turd.


2 was by far the worst and ill agree that 3 was the best out of the prequels but it doesnt hold a candle to the original 3.

IMO 6>5>4>>>>>>>>>3>>1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sniffing dog crap off a hot sidewalk>2

So hopefully 7 ends up being the best.