Star Trek die hards... time to show your knowledge...

[sao123]

I have started my quest to see all 6 original star trek movies in order...

star Trek 1 was ok, but the real plot starts in WOK... and I have some questions so far.

1)Peter Preston (the young engineering cadet who dies) is scotty's nephew... but someone posed to me that he may have been engaged to Saavik, this the look of tear in her eyes (isnt she a vulcan... was that a hint of emotion?) when scotty appears carrying him on the bridge. True? False? Possibly in the novelized version?

2)The reliant helmsmen (after this ship was captures) is that Kahn's son? "I will avenge you..."

3)I've read both the original and the TNG tech manuals... and i dont understand how the radiation room comes into play in the warp engines... How does simply filling a room with radiation (some type of gas) empower the engines? No other engine room caught on film even has this room (including reliant, enterprise in TV, ST MP, enterprise A, enterprise C, D, E)... what is its purpose? How did they drain all the radiation from the room in the first place, without going in? If there is a manual drain, surely there is a manual fill.... why would a purely radiation room have a computer in it? And why is there a door for just anyone to walk in and flood the entire room with whatever is in that room?

4)when they were in the genesis tunnel inside the asteroid... where did the sunshine come from?

5)Genesis makes a dead planet into a living one... no where does it say it can make a solar system (star and planet) out of a nebula... how does this happen?

6)My wife suggested to me...after watching demolishan man and i robot... sandra bullock would have made a far better savaak than either kristie alley, or her no-name replacement in the next movie.

7)When the enterprise is first leavign drydock... there is this lone guy standing there in a spaceship... is he a)waving bye, b)cleaning a window, c) directing traffic... there seems to be no purpose for him here.

8)The creature kahn has in the sand... is that a real animal from the desert? is it a mouse in a costume? Or is it some type of animated special effect?

9)When checkov and terrel go into the cargo unit... why does the wind not blow the sand into the room? and how are kahn and his people out in the sand in a planet with limited atmosphere with no air tanks? Just wearing a chain mail outfit...

10)what is the primary fermented ingrediant in the romulan aile? beer = hops/rice, whiskey = corn/wheat vodka = potato/rye just curious what makes it blue...

tomorrow more questions to follow after I watch the search for spock and maybe the voyage home.

 

[sao123]

one more...

what is a "particle of pre-animate matter caught in the matrix"???

sounds like a plant or a tree to me.... but whats the real answer.

 

[Iron Woode]

maybe you should watch the Space Seed first?

2) yes, that's his son.

8) animated special effect.

9) watch the Space Seed for the answer about Khan and his men.

 

[Sphexi]

6) Your wife is an idiot. Sandra Bullock is a horrible actress, Saavik was played by Robin Curtis in the next two films, she did a perfectly fine job.

 

[Jeff7]

3)I've read both the original and the TNG tech manuals... and i dont understand how the radiation room comes into play in the warp engines... How does simply filling a room with radiation (some type of gas) empower the engines? No other engine room caught on film even has this room (including reliant, enterprise in TV, ST MP, enterprise A, enterprise C, D, E)... what is its purpose? How did they drain all the radiation from the room in the first place, without going in? If there is a manual drain, surely there is a manual fill.... why would a purely radiation room have a computer in it? And why is there a door for just anyone to walk in and flood the entire room with whatever is in that room?

Watch Galaxy Quest sometime. There are crazy diabolical traps in the ship that had no purpose other than to cause tension in a TV show.
I think this radiation room was the same sort of thing, unfortunately.
I suppose that this room would normally not be filled with radiation, but was this time due to severe damage to the engineering section.


4)when they were in the genesis tunnel inside the asteroid... where did the sunshine come from?

Stage lighting.



7)When the enterprise is first leavign drydock... there is this lone guy standing there in a spaceship... is he a)waving bye, b)cleaning a window, c) directing traffic... there seems to be no purpose for him here.

Waving anti-government propaganda.


8)The creature kahn has in the sand... is that a real animal from the desert? is it a mouse in a costume? Or is it some type of animated special effect?

Puppet/animatronic.


10)what is the primary fermented ingrediant in the romulan aile? beer = hops/rice, whiskey = corn/wheat vodka = potato/rye just curious what makes it blue...

Blue #10

 

[Kadarin]

Jeff, not only do you win the thread, but I like the James Madison quote in your sig. It's very appropriate in this day and age.

 

[Yossarian]

Kirstie Alley was super hot in WoK!!

 

[grrl]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Jeff, not only do you win the thread,....

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Jeff7
7)When the enterprise is first leavign drydock... there is this lone guy standing there in a spaceship... is he a)waving bye, b)cleaning a window, c) directing traffic... there seems to be no purpose for him here.[/b]

Waving anti-government propaganda.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

I actually LOLd at that one!

 

[K1052]

3)I've read both the original and the TNG tech manuals... and i dont understand how the radiation room comes into play in the warp engines... How does simply filling a room with radiation (some type of gas) empower the engines? No other engine room caught on film even has this room (including reliant, enterprise in TV, ST MP, enterprise A, enterprise C, D, E)... what is its purpose? How did they drain all the radiation from the room in the first place, without going in? If there is a manual drain, surely there is a manual fill.... why would a purely radiation room have a computer in it? And why is there a door for just anyone to walk in and flood the entire room with whatever is in that room?

Radiation was leaking from the damaged warp core intermix chamber inside that room (the thing Spock opened). The matter/anti-matter reaction presumably emits a considerable amount of radiation in addition to the plasma produced. Spock had to open the chamber in order to re-align the damaged crystal so that the Enterprise could achieve Warp flight to escape the Genesis device activation.

/Star Trek nerd

 

[Amused]

Sandra Bullock was 17-18 when WoK was made (1981-82) and had never acted before. She got her first acting job in 87.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: Sphexi
6) Your wife is an idiot. Sandra Bullock is a horrible actress, Saavik was played by Robin Curtis in the next two films, she did a perfectly fine job.

yes but... robin curtiss is so....ugly.

Originally posted by: K1052
Radiation was leaking from the damaged warp core intermix chamber inside that room (the thing Spock opened). The matter/anti-matter reaction presumably emits a considerable amount of radiation in addition to the plasma produced. Spock had to open the chamber in order to re-align the damaged crystal so that the Enterprise could achieve Warp flight to escape the Genesis device activation.
/Star Trek nerd

excellent...

 

[ForumMaster]

juat keep this in my mind, not everything in the movies has to make sense. for example, anyone remember Star Trek Voyager? there's this one episode ( Message in a Bottle) where a star fleet ship fires phasers (which goes at the speed of light) during warp flight. this is impossible for two reasons:
1. The phaser beam would hit the ship that fired it as the ship is moving forward faster then the beam and it would never reach the other ship
2. According to the Star Trek: TNG tech manual ( i read it at Barnes & Nobles), phaser beams disappear in the precense of a warp field making it impossible to fire a PHASER beam.

so just saying, not everything has to make sense.

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: sao123

7)When the enterprise is first leavign drydock... there is this lone guy standing there in a spaceship... is he a)waving bye, b)cleaning a window, c) directing traffic... there seems to be no purpose for him here.

:laugh:

I don't know what they call them in space but all the docks are dry.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
juat keep this in my mind, not everything in the movies has to make sense. for example, anyone remember Star Trek Voyager? there's this one episode ( Message in a Bottle) where a star fleet ship fires phasers (which goes at the speed of light) during warp flight. this is impossible for two reasons:
1. The phaser beam would hit the ship that fired it as the ship is moving forward faster then the beam and it would never reach the other ship
2. According to the Star Trek: TNG tech manual ( i read it at Barnes & Nobles), phaser beams disappear in the precense of a warp field making it impossible to fire a PHASER beam.

so just saying, not everything has to make sense.

Im not asking for an explaination which explains in accordance with einsteins special relativity of real physics...

just within the context of the physics and engineering of the star trek universe...

almost anything you think of to ask for an explaination, there is an answer somewhere (one of tthe tech manuals, etc) these guys tried to be as thoroough as possible.

 

[Kelemvor]

Just skip to Star Trek IV. That's the best one.

 

[TheChort]

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
juat keep this in my mind, not everything in the movies has to make sense. for example, anyone remember Star Trek Voyager? there's this one episode ( Message in a Bottle) where a star fleet ship fires phasers (which goes at the speed of light) during warp flight. this is impossible for two reasons:
1. The phaser beam would hit the ship that fired it as the ship is moving forward faster then the beam and it would never reach the other ship
2. According to the Star Trek: TNG tech manual ( i read it at Barnes & Nobles), phaser beams disappear in the precense of a warp field making it impossible to fire a PHASER beam.

so just saying, not everything has to make sense.

well, if you want to be technical about it, if you were travelling the speed of light and you turned on a flashlight, relative to you, the light still leaves the flashlight at the speed of light. So relative to the voyager vessel, the phasers would still leave the ship at the speed of light. But relative to a stationary object, I think they would both go at the same speed.
(Im just arguing your first point though, I know nothing about the warp field )

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Just skip to Star Trek IV. That's the best one.

QFT.

Of course then he'll ask how flying around the sun sends you back in time. Or how the whales could breathe on the way back.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn

Originally posted by: sao123

7)When the enterprise is first leavign drydock... there is this lone guy standing there in a spaceship... is he a)waving bye, b)cleaning a window, c) directing traffic... there seems to be no purpose for him here.

:laugh:

I don't know what they call them in space but all the docks are dry.

And no one can hear you scream

 

[jimbob200521]

Just curious - how are you liking the movies so far? Do you watch any other Trek?

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: sao123
I have started my quest to see all 6 original star trek movies in order...

star Trek 1 was ok, but the real plot starts in WOK... and I have some questions so far.

1)Peter Preston (the young engineering cadet who dies) is scotty's nephew... but someone posed to me that he may have been engaged to Saavik, this the look of tear in her eyes (isnt she a vulcan... was that a hint of emotion?) when scotty appears carrying him on the bridge. True? False? Possibly in the novelized version?
He's Scott's nephew. He and Saavik had nothing going on.

2)The reliant helmsmen (after this ship was captures) is that Kahn's son? "I will avenge you..."
Already been answered, Yes his son.

3)I've read both the original and the TNG tech manuals... and i dont understand how the radiation room comes into play in the warp engines... How does simply filling a room with radiation (some type of gas) empower the engines? No other engine room caught on film even has this room (including reliant, enterprise in TV, ST MP, enterprise A, enterprise C, D, E)... what is its purpose? How did they drain all the radiation from the room in the first place, without going in? If there is a manual drain, surely there is a manual fill.... why would a purely radiation room have a computer in it? And why is there a door for just anyone to walk in and flood the entire room with whatever is in that room?
Refer to K1052's post
4)when they were in the genesis tunnel inside the asteroid... where did the sunshine come from?
Lights they put in the cave

5)Genesis makes a dead planet into a living one... no where does it say it can make a solar system (star and planet) out of a nebula... how does this happen?
David, Kirk' son specifically states that they used proto matter and that it was unstable. The mixing of this and the explosion of the Reliant and all of it's Anti-Matter was a unforseen side-effect of cutting corners to get the device to work.

6)My wife suggested to me...after watching demolishan man and i robot... sandra bullock would have made a far better savaak than either kristie alley, or her no-name replacement in the next movie.
You're wife neesd to check the dates of when peple were aaaaaaaaaaaaaatually working.

7)When the enterprise is first leavign drydock... there is this lone guy standing there in a spaceship... is he a)waving bye, b)cleaning a window, c) directing traffic... there seems to be no purpose for him here.
I assume by spaceship, you mean space suit. He's just waving to the people on the ship, just like people wave to ships when they leave dock today

8)The creature kahn has in the sand... is that a real animal from the desert? is it a mouse in a costume? Or is it some type of animated special effect?
It's a cousin of the mouse eating centipede. -j/k/ It's a prop.

9)When checkov and terrel go into the cargo unit... why does the wind not blow the sand into the room? and how are kahn and his people out in the sand in a planet with limited atmosphere with no air tanks? Just wearing a chain mail outfit...
There may be a airlock type chamber that must be passed through, or more likely, it was a oversight by the production people.

10)what is the primary fermented ingrediant in the romulan aile? beer = hops/rice, whiskey = corn/wheat vodka = potato/rye just curious what makes it blue...
It's make believe.

tomorrow more questions to follow after I watch the search for spock and maybe the voyage home.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
juat keep this in my mind, not everything in the movies has to make sense. for example, anyone remember Star Trek Voyager? there's this one episode ( Message in a Bottle) where a star fleet ship fires phasers (which goes at the speed of light) during warp flight. this is impossible for two reasons:
1. The phaser beam would hit the ship that fired it as the ship is moving forward faster then the beam and it would never reach the other ship
2. According to the Star Trek: TNG tech manual ( i read it at Barnes & Nobles), phaser beams disappear in the precense of a warp field making it impossible to fire a PHASER beam.

so just saying, not everything has to make sense.

Which says nothing about the fact that (latest series) Enterprise repeatedly fired phasers at warp when it engaged the Suliban. Maybe there's a Physics switch on board that they can just turn off when needed.

 

[sao123]

Sweet... now I just need to know what a "particle of pre-animate matter caught in the matrix" is...

to me, it sounds like a plant or a tree...



and one more I just tohught of... what is the signnificance of the whistle thing they blow when they open the pod docking lock? I remember they blow this again in Star Trek 6 when the klingons beam over for dinner....

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: jimbob200521
Just curious - how are you liking the movies so far? Do you watch any other Trek?

I've watched some or all of every star trek...

TOS, I liked...
TNG was ok...
DS9 sucked until the last season...

Voyager was cool, I really enjoyed... it felt like it had a purpose (most of the time)...what TNG & DS9 should have been like...

Enterprise was a good idea, but not carried out as well as it could have been...

But I liked the first 6 movies best of all...

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: sao123

Sweet... now I just need to know what a "particle of pre-animate matter caught in the matrix" is...

to me, it sounds like a plant or a tree...



and one more I just tohught of... what is the signnificance of the whistle thing they blow when they open the pod docking lock? I remember they blow this again in Star Trek 6 when the klingons beam over for dinner....

The whistle is an old naval tradition of announcing important visitors like high ranking officers and officials. In Star Trek II it was for then Admiral Kirk and in Star Trek VI it was for the visiting Klingon head of state.