Star Citizen: Chris Robert`s new space sim (the Wing Commander guy)

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bbhaag

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^^^ Oh man that's rough...a setup like that shouldn't be a slide show. My rig is considerable less than yours and it's playable. Not perfect but playable.

PIIx4 965@ 3.7
12gb ram
XFX 7850 2gb
1920x1200

I don't override the games built in settings and I play windowed so I can get some sweet screen shots. Just curious but whats your connection speed?
 

rivethead

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Check the CIG forums.....it's not your system, it's SC. They still have lots of bugs to work out and FPS drops are everywhere.

Personally, I hope they polish up what they've released a bit before putting out new content, but that doesn't necessarily sound like their plan.
 

Fallen Kell

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Check the CIG forums.....it's not your system, it's SC. They still have lots of bugs to work out and FPS drops are everywhere.

Personally, I hope they polish up what they've released a bit before putting out new content, but that doesn't necessarily sound like their plan.

Optimization is almost always the last thing you do in game development. When things are constantly changing, optimization is a waste of development time because you are simply going to have to re-do the optimizations if you change the game assets that you did the optimizations on.
 

rivethead

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Optimization is almost always the last thing you do in game development. When things are constantly changing, optimization is a waste of development time because you are simply going to have to re-do the optimizations if you change the game assets that you did the optimizations on.

Yup. I definitely understand that. However, if CIG want us to continue to test their code, the basic issues need to be fixed first. I'm advocating fixing those issues first before adding additional content (like more flyable ships, shopping, persistence, subsumption, etc.).

That's all I mean by "polish". Fix the network issues so we can at least login (last five attempts I've made: error code 7.....at this point they're just wasting my time and I doubt the additional data points resulting from "Rivethead gets yet another code 7 error" are adding value to their testing process).
 

jlee

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What kind of hardware do you have trying to run this? The game is decidedly "next generation", targeting Nvidia 980 GTX and similar level hardware. I can play it alright at 1920x1200 with a 670 GTX with a lot of things turned off (especially AA, etc). I've been waiting on the real next gen cards to come out before I upgrade (looking like July/August I might finally be making a new system).

I hope there's some optimization down the line - it certainly looks good, but not mind-blowingly better than Fallout 3 with max-res 3rd party textures at 4k (which runs glassy smooth on my 3570k/GTX970). Even the hangar bay at 4k is a slideshow..I had to drop to 1080p.
 

rivethead

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Did Org Leadership decide on a logo yet? We saw some awesome candidates right before the holidays.
 
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Logo-Mock-up.jpg~original

Logo-Mock-up.jpg~original

Lets decide does everyone like this one?

Worthington thanks for handling the new application and welcome to our 29th Baller. We now have some good numbers.
 

rivethead

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With 29 members I think we either gotta do some type of vote (which AT doesn't make easy.....maybe we can do that in CIG's forums....do Orgs get their own "forum")?

Or.....you gotta make the call on your own and people will just have to deal with it!

I like that one, but I like the medallion one (with the crimson background) a little better.
 

Stringjam

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There are a number of issues CIG is working on re: the performance drops, aside from normal late-development optimization.

In AC and the PU, part of the problem is simply the amount of processing power they're purchasing to handle the server loads. They wanted to be able to run the LIVE server instances provisioned each on two cores, and quickly found out they needed a third to get the point they are today. The problem is that adding more cores (which at this point is beginning to appear necessary) is "prohibitively expensive."

This makes some sense in that the game isn't even released yet and they're having to fund some major server power for this mass testing.

The other issue is how CryEngine handles object updates. This is something their CryEngineers are actively working on because it requires significant re-coding on the engine. In layman's terms (about the best that I can understand it), if you are at CommArray 5, and somebody else is at CommArray6, CryEngine is sending object updates for both locations to the client, when you only really need them for the CommArray you're at. (Maybe somebody else who knows more about it can explain it better....it was a long time since I read it).

Once they get that issue worked out, I think we'll see comparatively big FPS gains.


I have excellent FPS normally in non-MP environments like the Hangar or VS. Anywhere from 100-120 FPS and glass smooth most of the time @1080. That's with 980 SLI though. If I disable SLI I still get decent frames, but I would imagine bumping up to high res would kill that pretty fast.
 
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With 29 members I think we either gotta do some type of vote (which AT doesn't make easy.....maybe we can do that in CIG's forums....do Orgs get their own "forum")?

Or.....you gotta make the call on your own and people will just have to deal with it!

I like that one, but I like the medallion one (with the crimson background) a little better.

CIG forums do not allow private Org sub forums yet. However I got a suggestion of another place where we can set up a basic forum. I'm pretty busy today & tomorrow but I'll look into it and if it works or is truly free I'll post here and send out the link in the AT Ballers chat, which I assume is private.
 

rivethead

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someone needs to make a glossary of terms for the game.

Your backing of the game includes the Star Citizen Digital Manual (when it's done). Typical starter package details state:

Also Contains
Starting Money: 1,000 UEC
3 Month Insurance
Digital Star Citizen Manual
Squadron 42 Digital Download
Star Citizen Digital Download


So we got that going for us. Which is nice.
 

Sabrewings

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Anyone want to add anything to this list? I just picked up a Redeemer to look at and mess around with that will be CCU'd to a BMM (already have the $0 CCU waiting) when the BMM gets closer to being ready. Until then I can enjoy the anticipation with the Redeemer community.

Sabrewings:
Constellation Aquila
Constellation Taurus
Constellation Phoenix
Retaliator
Avenger
Sabre
Mustang Beta
Aurora MR
300i
Reliant
P-72
Redeemer

Stringjam:
Carrack
Constellation Aquila
Redeemer
Vanguard Warden (Harbinger BUK)
Freelancer DUR
315p
350R
M50
Gladius
Sabre
Avenger Stalker
Hornet Ghost
P-52
P-72

Worthington:
Super Hornet
Vanguard
Sabre
Cutlass Blue
Constellation Phoenix
890 Jump
Herald
Aurora
Redeemer
Caterpillar

nsafreak:
Hornet Ghost
Cutlass Red
P52 Merlin

SLU Aequitas:
Super Hornet
Sabre

Red Storm:
Super Hornet
315p

SunnyD:
Aurora LX

rivethead:
Aurora MR
Avenger Titan

vshah:
Super Hornet
Sabre
Freelancer
315p
P72

Fanatical Meat:
Cutlass Black
Freelancer

mnewsham
Constellation Taurus

Bubbleawesome
Aurora LN

jlee
Aurora LN

kn51
Aurora MR
P-72
Herald
Reliant

GoodRevrnd
Super Hornet

DeathReborn
315p
325A
Retaliator
 

Fallen Kell

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You are still missing all mine.... Here is the inventory pic I did a while back. I think the only additions are the new repair ship, an avenger titan, and an avenger titain, and an avenger warlock.

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Oh and the 2 hornets are a superhornet and a ghost. Just about everything else is the "limited" variant if one exists (Freelancer MIS, Connie Phoenix, Starfarer Gemini, 350R, etc.).
 
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Sabrewings

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You are still missing all mine.... Here is the inventory pic I did a while back. I think the only additions are the new repair ship, an avenger titan, and an avenger titain, and an avenger warlock.

j72gNYw.png


Oh and the 2 hornets are a superhornet and a ghost. Just about everything else is the "limited" variant if one exists (Freelancer MIS, Connie Phoenix, Starfarer Gemini, 350R, etc.).

Sweet! I'm at work right now (Imgur is blocked), but I'll update it when I get the chance.