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Standard vs. Widescreen!!! Is it worth it to buy WS now????? Will there be even UWS later????

redgtxdi

redgtxdi

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So, just when I think WS might be dandy................

(Is regular TV gonna REEEEEALLY go to 16:9 in the year 2008 or are we kidding ourselves?????????)

I read another post on here about folks STILL gettin' shadow boxes on their WS tv while watchin' movies.

Come to find that there are like too many WS formats to solve for today's TV formats.

I think my WS purchase decision would probably hinge on a couple things........

#1.) Where's TV goin'???

#2.) Will there be uber-widescreen TV's available in the near future???

Let me just say, once again........WTF???
 
If the aspect ratio of televisions changes again, it won't be for a long time. 16x9 is a good mix between television and movies, and will be here for a while. Now go out and buy a widescreen set, damn it.
 
I just don't like those new shortscreen TVs. You pay more money for a TV that is significantly shorter and has 12% less visible area. Creative advertizing makes you think these shortscreen TVs are better by calling them "widescreen".

Think of all the shows you know and love now. If you are the type to watch reruns, these will be in 4:3 aspect ratios for the rest of your life. People on both sides will be forever subjected to black bars or streched/chopped pictures.
 
Well, I don't think you should worry too much about ultra widescreen or superHDTVs for quite a while. Look how long its taking normal 16x9 and HDTVs to catch on (actually the TVs themselves are doing alright, its the content thats lacking a lot).
 
Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Well, I don't think you should worry too much about ultra widescreen or superHDTVs for quite a while. Look how long its taking normal 16x9 and HDTVs to catch on (actually the TVs themselves are doing alright, its the content thats lacking a lot).
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QFT!!!!!!!!


I believe 2008 is supposedly still *the year* that TV is supposed to go all digital, correct??

And that's still not to say that they'll do widescreen *automatically* because of it.

Plus, there's a lot of truth in old TV shows. I'm not a huge fan of reruns, but regardless, there's gonna be that generational jump either way.


I think I'm just gonna amass a small army of 27" CRT's and when they time comes, I'll just put 2 of 'em together and interpolate the image to create my own 16:5 format &..........F.........T.........W!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil::shocked::laugh:😛
 
16x9 HD is the way to go. Almost all of the primetime shows are available OTA via a regular antenna. Sports in HD are the way TV was meant to be viewed. Once you see it, it will ruin your SD experience forever, the same way 5.1 ruined the old way of watching TV with the TV speaker only.

You can get a 50" HD projection for uner 900 bones...
 
Originally posted by: redgtxdi
So, just when I think WS might be dandy................
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It is dandy. Your ignorance is getting in the way.

(Is regular TV gonna REEEEEALLY go to 16:9 in the year 2008 or are we kidding ourselves?????????)
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2008 is the year all OTA broadcasts are to be digital. This has little to do with widescreen or HD. However, note that most prime time shows on the big four networks are now available in widescreen HD on their digital channels.

I read another post on here about folks STILL gettin' shadow boxes on their WS tv while watchin' movies.
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So does your local theater. The only difference is, your local theater covers the unused portion of the screen with a curtain.

Take a little time and read this web page to better understand aspect ratio:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/...phic/aspectratios/widescreenorama.html

Come to find that there are like too many WS formats to solve for today's TV formats.
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Now this is just pure crap. Unless you have a mighty morphing TV, nothing is going to be able to fully display every aspect ratio without some having black bars. 16:9 is a perfect middle ground, and all new HD TV shows are, and will be in that aspect ratio along with many non-epic movies. Old TV shows and very old movies are in 1.33:1 and epic movies are in 2.35:1

I think my WS purchase decision would probably hinge on a couple things........

#1.) Where's TV goin'???

#2.) Will there be uber-widescreen TV's available in the near future???

Let me just say, once again........WTF???
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There is no WTF here. This is a very simple concept to grasp. Since 16:9 is now the new braodcast standard for prime time TV shows, that wont be changing anytime soon.

 
Originally posted by: redgtxdi
Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Well, I don't think you should worry too much about ultra widescreen or superHDTVs for quite a while. Look how long its taking normal 16x9 and HDTVs to catch on (actually the TVs themselves are doing alright, its the content thats lacking a lot).
Click to expand...

QFT!!!!!!!!


I believe 2008 is supposedly still *the year* that TV is supposed to go all digital, correct??

And that's still not to say that they'll do widescreen *automatically* because of it.

Plus, there's a lot of truth in old TV shows. I'm not a huge fan of reruns, but regardless, there's gonna be that generational jump either way.


I think I'm just gonna amass a small army of 27" CRT's and when they time comes, I'll just put 2 of 'em together and interpolate the image to create my own 16:5 format &..........F.........T.........W!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil::shocked::laugh:😛
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Heh.....ok.......*looks around*

Yeah, I was talking to one of my old professors that is doing mass communication and has ties in broadcasting, and he told me that the consensus is that the government is just going to keep pushing the date for full HD compliance back and it'll be years before they'll ever actually require them to do HD.

Its one of those catch-22s, where people aren't going crazy for HD because its so limited right now, but the broadcasters and networks aren't moving to HD because they don't see it as being a large enough installed base yet. Both sides are slowly moving to adopt it for sure, but its much slower than HD crazy people like me would like.

Hopefully HD-DVD/Blu-Ray whatever hi-def movie discs we get, as well as these new HD capable video game consoles will help the transition speed up. Personally, I think the movies has a chance to really do it, since a lot of people already are saying how you can just get a good home theater setup and its better than going to the movies. There aren't a terribly large number of HD-capable theaters, so if people can also get better quality at home then they'll be more likely to do so. Its kinda funny since theaters moving to HD will charge more which will in turn just cause the consumer to be more likely to just stay at home. I wonder how long before the movie studios decide to start doing a pay-per-view setup where you can watch the movie in HD at home the same day it opens in theaters.
 
You know all those standard TV shows you watch now? If they were created in the past couple years, the edges are chopped off. You're missing some of the picture by not having a widescreen set...
 
Originally posted by: aswedc
You know all those standard TV shows you watch now?
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You're saying *all*????






P.S. I agree about the home theater thing. Why not allow people to watch movies on opening day at home. Or maybe give the theaters Tue-Fri, then open Sat via broadcast & let 'er rip.
 
Just curious how they're being handled OTA??

Wouldn't we just get letter boxes on standard 4:3 sets???

(Tryin' to think hard now on some o' them new-fangled shows like "Invasion", "Surface", etc.)

 
Can widescreen TVs crop the image of shows like Stargate that broadcast in 4:3 with black bars? My friend has a Dell laptop with XP MC, and the Media Center TV software CANNOT do that. It puts shows like that in a 4:3 box with black bars, which then has its own black bars. Simple enough option, and my ATI AIW 8500 does it. 😕
 
Depends on the connection to the TV(and possibly the TV itself). I use and HDMI for my Directivo HD and it bypasses my TV's "scalar", so SD shows have to be watched in 4:3 for me. When I had it hooked up to my set via component cables, my "scalar" could stretch the picture and trim it a little so it fit withouth the "blocky head" syndrome.
 
I'm not familiar w/ having watched 4:3 on my laptop, but I will concur about the double-black bars..........(where the one set of bars ain't so black).

That'll make ya' come to terms quickly w/ how good/bad your TV's blacks & contrast are. 😱
 
I agree, if you want really techie answers. Go to AVS forums and look around. You will learn everything you ever wanted to know about HDTV and where it is going...
 
I ran into this very problem after getting my widescreen a few weeks ago. Why didn't they make HD 2.35:1 so that movies , tv, and everything new would be in the same dimensions?
 
Originally posted by: speg
I ran into this very problem after getting my widescreen a few weeks ago. Why didn't they make HD 2.35:1 so that movies , tv, and everything new would be in the same dimensions?
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QFT!!!


I wish we could figure that out!!!! That is teh suck, for sure!!!

Leave it to some asshat to decide it's better to make even MORE formats!!! :|
 
Originally posted by: speg
I ran into this very problem after getting my widescreen a few weeks ago. Why didn't they make HD 2.35:1 so that movies , tv, and everything new would be in the same dimensions?
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:sigh:
 
Originally posted by: speg
I ran into this very problem after getting my widescreen a few weeks ago. Why didn't they make HD 2.35:1 so that movies , tv, and everything new would be in the same dimensions?
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Because many movies are not in 2.35:1. About 35% are 1.85:1

Also, a 2.25:1 tube and/or display would not be as cost effective as a 1.85:1 display is.
 
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