Standard TEMP for a non-oc'd XP 2200?

[DannyLarry]

I'm trying to monitor cpu temp to see if I mangled the thermal material on the base of the hsf that came with the retail 2200...

The hsf was a real b*tch to get clipped onto the Chaintech VJL1!

TIA for any help...

DL

 

[DannyLarry]

Someone - where can I find this basic info - I know I've sen it a million times over the years, but now I need to get it again... PLEASE

 

[Knightcomm]

Well, your CPU could run anywhere from 32-52 based on your case and your cooling. A little more info would be nice. A side note: XP cores are rated to run well up to around 60 degrees C.

 

[calvink]

30's-40's are usually about right.

 

[Markfw]

Do you know if it is a Palmino core or a t-bred ? If a Palamino, then over 60 with the retail unit is standard even with good case cooling (under load) If a tbred, not sure, but my tbred 2700+ at 2430 mhz at full load has NEVER gotton to 40 ! I think I saw a 37 once.

But on my 2700 I use a Vantec C7040, one of the best.. not the retail unit.

 

[DannyLarry]

Allright, thanks for the info folks, it is appreciated.

The setup I'm asking about is a cheap "Evercase" ($46. w/300w psu from Newegg) with a half-ass 90degree 80mm fan blowing straight on the general processor area. I also installed an 80mm Sunon as a rear exhaust, which, although loud, puts out quite a bit of air. Beyond that it's the retail hsf on a 2200+ (I believe that's the Tbread, right?) This is the first AMD rig I've built and the hsf install was not as smooth as I wold have liked. I think I mangled the thermal material a bit and now want to go find some real thermal paste and unhook the whole beast and redo that aspect of the build with Arctic Silver or the like. I'm getting readings of just it's initial power-on state in bios of up to 52C.

I'm just wondering if the thermal "material" that cheap hsf comes with is pure garbage and I need to get some kind of real paste on there as a default... BTW I have no intention of oc'ing this machine as it is for my sister and her family.

Thanks for the info, MORE THOUGHTS PLEASE.....


DL

 

[Markfw]

The 2200 could be either a Palamino or a tbred, you may not know until you try. The Palamino runs hot, and the tbred runs cool. Then you will know.

 

[DannyLarry]

It's whatever Newegg is selling right now as a 2200+, I bought it last week.

Is there an app like cpuid that could indicate which generation of proc this is?

So there are Palomino and Tbread 2200+s? What's the diff? L2 cache size and die thickness?

DL

 

[DannyLarry]

So I was going to take it all apart (standard operating (during win2k install..) temp of 51-53C...) and get some Arctic Silver3 which I should have done in the first place.

But, after reading AS' very thorough instructions on their website, I think it may be better to leave this one alone, it's hot but it does function and there will be no oc'ing of this machine in the future. I realized that the stock piece of "thermal tape" that comes with the retail amd cpushad prob already contaminated the cpu die as well as the hs. The AS website mentions that the tape is usually made from a wax-base and leaves a waxy residue on whatever it has come into strong contact with (like my cpu die..) So I would have to get some "Gum Off" cleaner or something like it to get the "tape" of both the HS and the cpu die.

I'm just not sure whether this sys is past the point of a healthy Arctic S install. I have not seen the temp go past 53C yet, how bad can it be?

Any more thoughts on this one?

DL

 

[DannyLarry]

Temp is now pretty consistently 54-55C under basic load - that can't be good right. I'm under the assumption that this is a Tbread proc, as I just bought it from Newegg last week, so that's prob too hot.

Any thoughts on whether it would be worth the significant effort to disassemble, scrape and clean, and reinstall with Arctic Silver3? Is it worth it - remember the machine will prob never be oc'd....

TIA for the info.

DL

 

[drewski]

i'm 99% sure that any thing 2200+ or higher are t-breds. anything 2400+ or higher are b-core.

i've got a 2100+ running @ 2700+ speeds and idle temp = 30, full load = 34. this is on a Soyo KT333 Dragon Ultra Platinum mobo and the Vantec Aeroflow HSF.

mobos can be different in their temp readings as well since they aren't reading from the internal diode, but rather a temp diode in the socket. as well, some mobos put in some kind of "correction factor" so you'd need some data from another Chaintech owner for a better apples to apples comparo.

i think it's worth it to ditch the thermal pad, especially if it's not providing a good contact due to whatever happened in your original install.

some goo-gone or the like will work. i used this on my Vantec prior to using some ASII. you can use goo-gone on the CPU as well, but don't get any on the 4 rubber "dots" it will disolve the adhesive and weaken the dots (not that i've done that or anything! ) it's not too big a deal to do (though your problems w/ HSF install may indicate otherwise).

 

[DannyLarry]

Thanks for the reply Drewski... I think I may go through the process when I get some more time. I read about the process of removing the stuff and reapplying AS on the AS website - good info.

The cpu seems to be always between 50-55C now regardless of load... I wonder if the mobo temp. monitor is sketchy....

DL