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Standalone DVD recorders (vcr)

Miramonti

Lifer
Perusing the Hotdeals, I saw this thread for a Medion DVD+RW recorder at Aldi's available 12/1.

Any comments on the quality/performance of standalone dvd recorders/vcr's?

I'm thinking of getting one for Christmas (as a gift) or if its an item that is best to wait til better or less expensive ones come out.



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I have a Panasonic DMR-E30 DVD recorder. It's awesome. Works with DVD-RAM and DVD-R. With DVD-RAM (or else the hard drive in the hard drive models) you can use it like a PVR, in that you can even watch at the same time as you record. (You can't do that on DVD-RW or DVD+RW.)

Originally posted by: waylman
no idea, but why not just buy a DVD burner for $100?
A standalone DVD recorder works like a VCR. A DVD burner for a computer would require an analogue capture card, editing software, a computer in the living room, etc.
 
Originally posted by: waylman
i have and I do not see any benefits. A DVD burner can do exactly what that recorder can do at a fraction of the cost.
No it can't. See my other message.
 
Originally posted by: waylman
Originally posted by: jjsole
Originally posted by: waylman no idea, but why not just buy a DVD burner for $100?
think about it.
i have and I do not see any benefits. A DVD burner can do exactly what that recorder can do at a fraction of the cost.

because you can't give a dvd burner as a gift for someone to use it with their multimedia center or with their tv as a vcr in their living room and tell them all you need to do is put it in their computer and run the software.

Its a different functionality, much more convenient to the couch potato. Hence, like a vcr.
 
Originally posted by: Eug
I have a Panasonic DMR-E30 DVD recorder. It's awesome. Works with DVD-RAM and DVD-R. With DVD-RAM (or else the hard drive in the hard drive models) you can use it like a PVR, in that you can even watch at the same time as you record. (You can't do that on DVD-RW or DVD+RW.)
Originally posted by: waylman no idea, but why not just buy a DVD burner for $100?
A standalone DVD recorder works like a VCR. A DVD burner for a computer would require an analogue capture card, editing software, a computer in the living room, etc.

Good info Eug. Any comments on what makes one better than another (beyond reliability of course) or what features you like that others may not have? Btw, how much video can fit onto a disk?
 
Originally posted by: jjsole
Originally posted by: waylman
if using as a PVR, I can see the benefit here.

Sorry, I just can't see my mom using a dvd burner on her computer to tape her soaps. 😉

right, that's what I said. If you want to use it as a PVR, then I can see the benefit.
 
Originally posted by: jjsole
Any comments on what makes one better than another (beyond reliability of course) or what features you like that others may not have? Btw, how much video can fit onto a disk?
I like the DVD-RAM's PVR-like functionality, but you can get that in DVD-RW and DVD+RW models which have built-in hard drives. The other bonus is that with built-in hard drives, you can make multiple copies of recorded material.

DVD-RAM and DVD-RW machines initially had the best image quality, but I'm told that DVD+RW recorders are similarly good. (The first ones weren't quite as good, but that was years ago.)

DVD-RAM discs will not work in most DVD players though, and despite the fact that for DVD recorders it's the most common, the discs are harder to find (since not many people use DVD-RAM in their computers). DVD+RW and DVD-RW discs may work in DVD players, depending on the settings and the players. It shouldn't really matter that much though, since they do support write-once media - DVD+R or DVD-R for the important stuff you may want to give friends, etc.

At max quality, a disc fits 1 hr of video. 2 hours is also very good. Image quality really starts to degrade after about 2 hours. Mine doesn't have a 90 minute setting, but some do. Some may even have adjustments in increments of 15 minutes.

Some machines (like mine) also have a fit to disc function (which I think is probably more useful than 15 minute increments for recording quality settings). ie. If you're recording a 102 minute movie, you can set the machine to fit exactly 102 minutes on the disc. Otherwise you'd have to use the 2 hour setting, which would be slightly less good. Or if you have say half the disc left and want to record a 40 minute video, you can set the recording up to fit that space.

Panasonic's DVD-RAM/-R machines are the most common and generally the cheapest, but prices from Pioneer (DVD-RW), and Philips (DVD+RW) have been coming down. I don't know what the latest prices are like though.

Sorry, I just can't see my mom using a dvd burner on her computer to tape her soaps. 😉
right, that's what I said. If you want to use it as a PVR, then I can see the benefit.
A VCR isn't really a PVR. When was the last time you started watching a the beginning of a video tape while you were still taping on it?
 
Originally posted by: Eug
Originally posted by: jjsole Any comments on what makes one better than another (beyond reliability of course) or what features you like that others may not have? Btw, how much video can fit onto a disk?
I like the DVD-RAM's PVR-like functionality, but you can get that in DVD-RW and DVD+RW models which have built-in hard drives. The other bonus is that with built-in hard drives, you can make multiple copies of recorded material. DVD-RAM and DVD-RW machines initially had the best image quality, but I'm told that DVD+RW recorders are similarly good. (The first ones weren't quite as good, but that was years ago.) DVD-RAM discs will not work in most DVD players though, and despite the fact that for DVD recorders it's the most common, the discs are harder to find (since not many people use DVD-RAM in their computers). DVD+RW and DVD-RW discs may work in DVD players, depending on the settings and the players. It shouldn't really matter that much though, since they do support write-once media - DVD+R or DVD-R for the important stuff you may want to give friends, etc. At max quality, a disc fits 1 hr of video. 2 hours is also very good. Image quality really starts to degrade after about 2 hours. Mine doesn't have a 90 minute setting, but some do. Some may even have adjustments in increments of 15 minutes. Some machines (like mine) also have a fit to disc function (which I think is probably more useful than 15 minute increments for recording quality settings). ie. If you're recording a 102 minute movie, you can set the machine to fit exactly 102 minutes on the disc. Otherwise you'd have to use the 2 hour setting, which would be slightly less good. Or if you have say half the disc left and want to record a 40 minute video, you can set the recording up to fit that space. Panasonic's DVD-RAM/-R machines are the most common and generally the cheapest, but prices from Pioneer (DVD-RW), and Philips (DVD+RW) have been coming down. I don't know what the latest prices are like though.

Have you had any problems with disk/brand quality etc, one brand better than another?
 
Have you had any problems with disk/brand quality etc, one brand better than another?
Basically all the DVD-RAM I've tried except one Maxell disc has worked fine. I've tried Panasonic, Verbatim, Optodisc, Pengo, Maxell, and one or two others.

DVD-R is a different story. Good stuff like Mitsui, Pioneer, and Apple always work fine. Stuff like Princo rarely works. But then again, this is true with my computer's DVD burner too. Cheap DVD-R sucks.
 
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