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Stampede at Suleimani’s Funeral in Iran Kills at least 56

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Story.

January 7, 2020 at 12:35 AM CST - Updated January 7 at 10:15 AM

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - A stampede at a funeral for a top Iranian general slain in a U.S. airstrike has killed 56 people and injured 213 others.

Iranian state TV gave the updated death toll in the stampede in Kerman, the hometown of Revolutionary Guard Gen. Qassem Soleimani, as the procession got underway. There was no information as to what had set off the stampede.

Online videos showed people lying lifeless on a road and others shouting and trying to help them.

Soleimani’s burial was delayed, with no new time set for it. His death has sparked calls across Iran for revenge against America, drastically raising tensions across the Middle East.

Earlier in the day, Hossein Salami, the leader of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, threatened to “set ablaze” places supported by the U.S. over the killing of Soleimani, sparking cries of “Death to Israel!”

A procession in Tehran on Monday drew over 1 million people to the Iranian capital, crowding both main thoroughfares and side streets.

United States officials are braced for Iran to respond to the killing of its most powerful general.


They’ve warned ships across Mideast waterways crucial to global energy supplies about the “possibility of Iranian action" against them.

They’re noting heightened levels of military readiness in the country and are preparing for a possible attempt on the life of an American military commander. The U.S. is reinforcing its positions in the region.

Trump ordered the Jan. 2 strike against Soleimani after the death of an American contractor in Iraq.

U.S. officials believe the next steps by America’s longtime foe will determine the ultimate course of the latest crisis. Iran has vowed revenge.

Soleimani’s killing Friday in Baghdad has drastically raised regional tensions and escalated a crisis between Washington and Tehran.

Iran’s foreign minister claimed Tuesday that the U.S. has declined to issue him a visa to attend UN meetings in New York amid the tensions.

Oil tankers were targeted in mine attacks last year the U.S. blamed on Iran. Tehran denied being responsible though it did seize oil tankers around the crucial Strait of Hormuz, the narrow mouth of the Persian Gulf through which 20% of the world’s crude oil travels.



Iran already said it will no longer honor any of the limits of its 2015 nuclear deal with world powers, an accord President Trump withdrew from in May 2018.
 
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So crazy to see that many people care about a military general. That would never happen in the US if the highest military officer in the US was killed. Wouldnt even happen for our POTUS.

Im assuming this is what happens when you let religion take over government, basically?
 
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So crazy to see that many people care about a military general. That would never happen in the US if the highest military officer in the US was killed. Wouldnt even happen for our POTUS.

Im assuming this is what happens when you let religion take over government, basically?
Wouldn't happen in Israel either.
 
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So crazy to see that many people care about a military general. That would never happen in the US if the highest military officer in the US was killed. Wouldnt even happen for our POTUS.

Im assuming this is what happens when you let religion take over government, basically?
You really have no idea, huh? As leader of the IRGC, Soliemani was the guardian of the revolution & hero of the great patriotic war. It's not just about religion but about their national identity & freedom from foreign domination. It's like assassinating George Washington.
 
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You really have no idea, huh? As leader of the IRGC, Soliemani was the guardian of the revolution & hero of the great patriotic war. It's not just about religion but about their national identity & freedom from foreign domination. It's like assassinating George Washington.
Not really. I don't follow Iranian government a ton.
 

Muse

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I was told there would be joyous dancing?
Yeah, go to a funeral and die. I find it hard to imagine how people can participate in mass demonstrations of that magnitude. Subjecting themselves to cattle-like conditions is dehumanizing and degrading... and obviously, potentially deadly.
 
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It's like assassinating George Washington.
Well, you know, if George Washington had been assassinated, there would have been nothing going on like has gone on in Iran the last 3 days.
 

Jhhnn

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Well, you know, if George Washington had been assassinated, there would have been nothing going on like has gone on in Iran the last 3 days.
Yeh, the population wasn't big enough.
 

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So crazy to see that many people care about a military general. That would never happen in the US if the highest military officer in the US was killed. Wouldnt even happen for our POTUS.

Im assuming this is what happens when you let religion take over government, basically?

Oh come on!

Does the US have anything like the history of Iran? Is there any resemblance at all? Any equivalent to the occupation of the country in WW2 or the overthrow of it's government by the CIA? Anything akin to the Iraq/Iran war in recent times?

And it's hardly about 'letting' religion take over government. Religion has always been hugely important in that part of the world, and the last century of political events has served to massively amplify that.

(Also, people in the West die in stampedes at rock concerts and sporting events.)

If Iran assasinated Trump I would expect there'd be a bit of a kurfuffle.
 

pmv

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Subjecting themselves to cattle-like conditions is dehumanizing and degrading... and obviously, potentially deadly.
You've never commuted on the Northern Line or by Southern Rail, I guess.
 

Jaskalas

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You really have no idea, huh? As leader of the IRGC, Soliemani was the guardian of the revolution & hero of the great patriotic war. It's not just about religion but about their national identity & freedom from foreign domination. It's like assassinating George Washington.
Exactly.
 

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They want good ol'American freedom so bad, they are willing to trample each other to death!!

God Bless Donald J. Trump!!

Hillary would have hur-dur-dur-dur-hur-dur!! And, hur-dur-dur-hur!! Of course, Obama is all hur-dur-dur-hur-hur!! Stupid hur-dur Liberals!!!
 
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You really have no idea, huh? As leader of the IRGC, Soliemani was the guardian of the revolution & hero of the great patriotic war. It's not just about religion but about their national identity & freedom from foreign domination. It's like assassinating George Washington.
How about Abe Lincoln? I don’t recall irrational hysterics over his assassination.
 

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How about Abe Lincoln? I don’t recall irrational hysterics over his assassination.
Though he wasn't assassinated by a foreign power. And they'd already had the war and reprisals, so in terms of angry vengeance maybe there wasn't really anywhere to go from there?

Seems the responses were varied, but pretty emotional.

 

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Yeah, go to a funeral and die. I find it hard to imagine how people can participate in mass demonstrations of that magnitude. Subjecting themselves to cattle-like conditions is dehumanizing and degrading... and obviously, potentially deadly.
Its the classic chicken egg paradox. When going to a funeral am I going to my own?
 

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Though he wasn't assassinated by a foreign power. And they'd already had the war and reprisals, so in terms of angry vengeance maybe there wasn't really anywhere to go from there?

Seems the responses were varied, but pretty emotional.

technically, Boothe certainly saw himself as an agent of an (defeated) antagonistic foreign power.
 

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You really have no idea, huh? As leader of the IRGC, Soliemani was the guardian of the revolution & hero of the great patriotic war. It's not just about religion but about their national identity & freedom from foreign domination. It's like assassinating George Washington.
not quite, context is everyting. Its like if another 1st world country publicly assassinated George Washington and took credit for it and proclaimed that he had it coming.
 
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not quite, context is everyting. Its like if another 1st world country publicly assassinated George Washington and took credit for it and proclaimed that he had it coming.
It would be like George Washington overtly traveling to a French colony to undermine French interests and enable the killings of French colonists and then wondering why the French take him out.
 
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