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SSD vs Raptor

I wouldn't invest in Raptors at this point. Even lowend SSD's will improve loading times. There are tricks to extend SSD life like moving linked folders to a hard drive and moving the temp folder off, disabling superfetch and indexing and making sure auto defrag is disabled for the SSD.
 
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5729/western-digital-velociraptor-1tb-wd1000dhtz-review/3

And that's 2 years old (the SSD, not the review)! New SSDs have even that 320 beat my miles.

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So if I just ran an SSD as is, like just as a normal hard drive, how many years would I be looking at it lasting?...
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Longer than you'll want to use the computer it is in. If you're not comparing the SSD to a big RAID 10, you're not going to wear it out in any reasonable service life.

Reliability is generally very good, outside of OCZ, but never assume any storage device won't fail tomorrow. It shouldn't, but even SSDs can and do die randomly, however low the chances may be. If you're worried about warranty, get a Samsung, Plextor, or Sandisk (both offer 3 or 5 year warranties, depending on series), or Crucial (3-year or 72TB). The Crucial M500 and Plextor M5 series have been around long enough to prove themselves pretty solid drives, too.
 
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Raptor X @ 1.2m MTBF
Crucial M500 @ 1.2m MTBF
= Case closed... they both have the exact same life span

:colbert: Glad I could help
 
Depends on your IO patterns.

Raptors are in a class of their own when it comes to HDDs, and in the real world, the difference going from a Raptor to a SSD isn't as noticeable as going from a crappy hard drive to a SSD. Yes an SSD will annihilate a Raptor in synthetic 4K IOPS benchmarks but the truth is in real world use Raptors are already pretty damn fast as far as end user experience and perception goes.

That said the SSD WILL destroy the Raptor and there is no reason not to get an SSD. But you're probably already used to fairly rapid IO responsiveness and might not be as wowed by an SSD as you should be.

Personally I've been SSD only in everything I own for 3+ years (except my Xbox 360 because MS sucks), and I'll never own any primitive 20th century tape or disc based data storage contraption ever again. It was a sad day when I retired the last of my Raptors. I felt so guilty selling them in perfect working order with no bad sectors, even ones over 7 years old. They were loyal and hard working for me to the end and I just replaced them with a newer younger model ... :'( I hope they are happy in their new home...
 
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CodeguruX said:
So if I just ran an SSD as is, like just as a normal hard drive, how many years would I be looking at it lasting?...
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Looking at my own SSDs. Even with heavy usage and no regards to spare it. 10-20 years.

Even raptors are snail slow compared to a SSD.
 
Just measured the access time of my 140Gig raptor = 7.12 ms average read access time. Pretty fast for a mechanical hdd.

Now 2 of my ssds

Intel 520-120g = .25 ms average rad access
Samsung 830-128g= .15 ms

The ssds are clearly faster.
 
raptor are good for log/video where you can't afford to have GC making your writes unpredictable. but you might as well just go 15K SAS and get the maximum benefit.
 
You will also benefit from a lot less heat generated by the SSD as compared to a Raptor.
 
exdeath said:
It was a sad day when I retired the last of my Raptors. I felt so guilty selling them in perfect working order with no bad sectors, even ones over 7 years old. They were loyal and hard working for me to the end and I just replaced them with a newer younger model ... :'( I hope they are happy in their new home...
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haha

SSD is the way forwards. I'll never go back to a mechanical HD ever again. The responsiveness is insane.

Koing
 
🙂I luv I just caught this thread, cause I just went for my first SDD.....never had a Raptor, but do have a WD Black.

This thread is now sooooo comforting and affirming!🙂
 
Virgorising said:
🙂I luv I just caught this thread, cause I just went for my first SDD.....never had a Raptor, but do have a WD Black.

This thread is now sooooo comforting and affirming!🙂
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I'm even a devil's advocate for, "HDDs aren't that bad, guys," and just ordered my first desktop SSD, because I couldn't justify the regular prices of ~$.75/GB or more. But with the deals going on now, on known-quality drives, from major memory/storage companies that like to get OEM deals, don't sit around and wonder if an SSD will be worth it. It will be worth that <$150, even if, like me, you don't use your PC in a way that will make it a life-changer.
 
Cerb said:
I'm even a devil's advocate for, "HDDs aren't that bad, guys," and just ordered my first desktop SSD, because I couldn't justify the regular prices of ~$.75/GB or more. But with the deals going on now, on known-quality drives, from major memory/storage companies that like to get OEM deals, don't sit around and wonder if an SSD will be worth it. It will be worth that <$150, even if, like me, you don't use your PC in a way that will make it a life-changer.
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Only a bit ago, I joined the same choir you did! Total was like $131 on Black Friday.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2356216

And I AM expecting life changing!()🙂:biggrin: Also, ice cream, balloons and fireworks.:awe:
 
a good compromise is run the fast on fast ssd, run the slow n steady on reliable hard drive.

I've had more 15K SAS drive failures this year over the 100+ ssd (desktop 60/server 40) drives. the sas drives blew the feck up total devastation across all platters lol.
 
SSD's are great for boot/OS drives where data integrity isn't particularly important. If you have anything of importance to store, you are far safer on a traditional HD like a Raptor. Despite the speed advantage of SSD's, if I could only have one drive in my computer, I wouldn't even consider an SSD. Raptor all the way. When an SSD goes bad, there is no warning, and the data is unrecoverably gone. With traditional drives, even when they go bad, you usually get some sort of warning that give you enough time to at least get the data off. The ideal setup is a hybrid system with your OS and a few frequently use apps on the SSD, and then a Raptor with you games and other apps,swap file/scratch disk and then a large capacity traditional drive for your mass storage.
 
Also, all the people commenting on the heat generated by a Velociraptor are dead wrong. Due to the 2.5" form factor, the 1TB Velociraptor uses less power than a 1TB WD Green drive (you know, the one marketed as the quiet and cool line). It's actually one of the coolest hard drives you'll find. I've never seen anyone complaining about heat from modern 5400RPM SATA drives.
 
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