SSD&Sleep?

[mojothehut]

Hey all,
Yes I'm fairly new to the world of SSDs. Just replaced a raptor drive with a Samsung evo 500gb.
I have everything on this one SSD. For years, my computer control habits have been setting the computer to sleep every night, pretty much when I go to bed, then waking when I wake. Rebooting about once a week.

Someone told me you shouldn't use sleep mode with SSDs, is this true? I don't really want to let my computer just idle for days at a time. I don't mine or fold anymore, so it's a waste of power and just sucks up dust.
I use this computer to game, that's about it 🙂

If hardware matters,
i7 4770k @ 4.2
Asus Maximus Hero
Win7 Pro
16gb DDR1600
Corsair HX750 psu

 

[ShintaiDK]

There is no problem using sleepmode.

 

[Dr-Kiev]

Sandforce based SSD drives had an issue with sleep mode, when they never awake after sleep, but according to the vendors, this bug was solved with newer updates.

 

[mojothehut]

Alright cool, thanks.
A sleep mode every night I shall go 🙂

 

[BrightCandle]

The Samsung 830 also had problems with sleep where it would go missing on a real reboot. Needed about 30 minutes of power before it could be found again.

Generally there is no issue with sleep, just a couple of bad SSDs that didn't support it very well.

 

[evilspoons]

What BrightCandle said.

My Intel SSD 320 160 GB drive and my two Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB drives (one at work in a laptop, one at home in a gaming PC) haven't had a hiccup due to sleep mode.

 

[Morbus]

People usually mix up Sleep mode with Hibernate. You should hibernate on an SSD, because you're storing your RAM to the SSD and all that write puts a load of stress on the SSD. Of course you can still do it in a pinch (I've done it on my 840EVO and it works perfectly).

I used to hibernate all the time on my HDD, before I bought my EVO, and it was because my then 1 minute boot up, plus the opening of Firefox and Winamp and all the stuff took a whole lot more time than hibernation. Not to mention that I'd have to close everything every time I shut my computer down, if I didn't hibernate. So I'd be saving two minutes for every shut down.

With the SSD though, it's the opposite. My 19 second normal boot up is increased to upwards of 40 seconds with hibernation, to the point where it doesn't even feel faster than hibernation on my HDD. So I just shut the whole thing down. I'll have the whole shebang up and running in 30 seconds after I press the power button anyway, so it I'd say hibernation, at least in my case, is not faster than a normal shut down. It's actually slower, for the most part. AND it puts stress on the SSD.

There's another thing too: back in 2007, when I started to hibernate as a habit, sleep mode was a real pain in the ass for some reason: basically the computer didn't really shut down, it winded the HDDs down and disabled the screen, but it was still on and making noise. On my Z87 though, that's not the case. Sleep mode is totally silent, to the point where you only know the computer is sleeping because the on light is bleeping. AND you can turn your computer on by just pressing a key on the keyboard. So it's even better than hibernate ever was!

 

[evilspoons]

Windows 7 does "hybrid sleep", where it puts your PC in to sleep mode and writes hibernation data. This is the ideal method because you don't lose work if you have a power loss, but it starts back up extremely fast otherwise.

As for adding writes to the SSD, don't worry about it unless you've got like 64 GB of RAM and a 60 GB SSD.

 

[john3850]

The Samsung 830 also had problems with sleep where it would go missing on a real reboot. Needed about 30 minutes of power before it could be found again.

Generally there is no issue with sleep, just a couple of bad SSDs that didn't support it very well.

Thanks for the info
My 830s were always set to never sleep.
While my Seagate 600 ST240 is set to sleep.

 

[mojothehut]

Windows 7 does "hybrid sleep", where it puts your PC in to sleep mode and writes hibernation data. This is the ideal method because you don't lose work if you have a power loss, but it starts back up extremely fast otherwise.

As for adding writes to the SSD, don't worry about it unless you've got like 64 GB of RAM and a 60 GB SSD.

How do you use this "hybrid sleep?" Is it automatic when I use Sleep?

And no, not anywhere near 64gb of ram, just 16 =)

 

[razel]

Hybrid Sleep usually is on by default. Dig into your power options to 'enable' or 'disable' it. I used to worry about the writes hibernation would do on SSDs especially back in 2008, but not anymore with any SSD the past few years.