SSD question, Torqx vs Intel

[Gutcheck2009]

The Torqx boasts even better specs then the Intel G2. I've been waiting for a G2, bought a Torqx to play with intending to return it, but now I don't know what to do. The Torqx is a little more expensive per GB, but for a drive this small as long as I can get Windows on there and my office apps then who cares as long as it is the fastest I can get.

basically my question is am I missing something here? Is there a reason to go Intel over the Torqx?

 

[masteryoda34]

What you're missing is that the Intel has much better RANDOM reads and writes, and that is what has the most impact on real performance. Yes the Torqx and other drives may have better sequential read/write performance, but in real world usage, most activity is more random.

Check out the graphs on this page
http://www.anandtech.com/stora...howdoc.aspx?i=3607&p=4

And is the Torqx really more expensive/GB? I didn't think it was.

 

[Gutcheck2009]

Yes they are, 219 for 64GB. Same price as the 80GB G2 intel. Thanks for the graph. I have 8 more days to return this, so I just might.

As an offshoot does anyone now how to enable AHCI on the SSD while having a secondary RAID? My mobo has no option on a per drive basis (EVGA x58 LE)

 

[masteryoda34]

Originally posted by: Gutcheck2009
Yes they are, 219 for 64GB. Same price as the 80GB G2 intel. Thanks for the graph. I have 8 more days to return this, so I just might.

As an offshoot does anyone now how to enable AHCI on the SSD while having a secondary RAID? My mobo has no option on a per drive basis (EVGA x58 LE)

For the same price I would definitely take the larger and faster Intel. win win.

Are the RAID array and the drive you want to enable AHCI on using the same SATA controller?

 

[Dorkenstein]

Ugh, when will the G2 80gb models be back in stock somewhere? This waiting hurts.

 

[taltamir]

The Torqx boasts even better specs then the Intel G2.

Who cares what it BOASTS... what have TRUSTED PROFESSIONAL REVIEWERS said about it?

 

[Gutcheck2009]

They are all plugged into the MB, so yes, I think so.... is ACHI so important?

 

[Gutcheck2009]

not much..... ahem, anand, where is our review?

 

[masteryoda34]

Originally posted by: Gutcheck2009
They are all plugged into the MB, so yes, I think so.... is ACHI so important?

As I understand, if RAID mode is enabled then drives that are not in an array are treated the same as if they were in AHCI mode. I might be wrong on that. Maybe someone else can verify.

 

[taltamir]

One quick google later

Review Patriot?s first stab at a solid-state drive went by the name of Warp and used the oft-derided JMicron 602 controller. By contrast, the new Torqx series of SSDs makes the switch to the Indilinx Barefoot controller that so impressed us when we reviewed the OCZ Vertex.

Seeing as how all the indilinx controller drives pretty much perform the same, I can deduce that this one will as well... it is a cheaper alternative to the intel, but it is not as good. And yes, all of them are rated higher by manufacturer.

 

[Spikesoldier]

the only reason i would consider a torqx over the intel is that patriot backs the torqx with a 10 year warranty.

unheard of.

running a 80gb intel g1 drive here.

 

[Dorkenstein]

I'm sorely tempted to buy an Intel 80gb, but I can't find a store with the G2 model in stock. I looked at ZZF and they claimed they'd be back in stock on the 15th, but it still says 'Sold Out.'

 

[Old Hippie]

Originally posted by: Dorkenstein
I'm sorely tempted to buy an Intel 80gb, but I can't find a store with the G2 model in stock. I looked at ZZF and they claimed they'd be back in stock on the 15th, but it still says 'Sold Out.'

Looks like the checkout line starts waaaaaay back there! :laugh:

 

[exar333]

Get the G2; faster and cheaper. Why would you choose slower and more expensive/GB?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Spikesoldier
the only reason i would consider a torqx over the intel is that patriot backs the torqx with a 10 year warranty.

unheard of.

Oooh. 10-year warranty. Assuming that Patriot is around in 10 years, I might just go for that. I want to stick an SSD into my older main rig that is still all-IDE right now. I'm interested in longevity, not speed. Something that will last for 10 years or more.

Edit: What controller is in the Torqx, and does it support garbage-collection?

"The Patriot Torqx, while being virtually identical to the OCZ Vertex SSD and Super Talent UltraDrive ME, share very similar architecture but very different IOPS performance. While Indilinx offers firmware updates on a frequent basis, OCZ appears to be ahead of Super Talent in terms of development, and despite this Super Talent is ahead of Patriot. One example is with TRIM technology, which resets sectors on the SSD as they are erased, thus restoring write-to performance to its pristine peak."
link

 

[masteryoda34]

Torqx uses the Indilinx controller like the OCZ Vertex, etc.

 

[sxr7171]

Consider cost of admission. I have a laptop (running Win 7) and a desktop (running Mac OS X) and I want to outfit both with an SSD. Neither install needs more than 30GB. Mac OSX doesn't even support TRIM anyway. I can get 2 Torqx for $240 or one Intel for $240. Since the laptop runs Win 7 maybe I could justify the Intel for that machine but I have a hard time justifying the added cost of the Intel for the Mac OS X running desktop.

If I went pure Intel I'm looking at $480 or pure Torqx I'm looking at $240. Or if I mix I could be taken care of for $360. I really don't know what to do. But I am leaning towards the mix right now.

 

[shabby]

Originally posted by: Gutcheck2009
The Torqx boasts even better specs then the Intel G2.

Those are only sequential speeds, mainly used for copying large files from hd to hd.
Its the small file performance that the torqx drive is slow compared to the intel g2. Download this benchmark and compare it to the results from my intel g2 drive.

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: sxr7171
Consider cost of admission. I have a laptop (running Win 7) and a desktop (running Mac OS X) and I want to outfit both with an SSD. Neither install needs more than 30GB. Mac OSX doesn't even support TRIM anyway. I can get 2 Torqx for $240 or one Intel for $240. Since the laptop runs Win 7 maybe I could justify the Intel for that machine but I have a hard time justifying the added cost of the Intel for the Mac OS X running desktop.

If I went pure Intel I'm looking at $480 or pure Torqx I'm looking at $240. Or if I mix I could be taken care of for $360. I really don't know what to do. But I am leaning towards the mix right now.

you are in the unusual boat of needing only 30GB... yes, two 30GB drives do indeed cost the same as one 80GB drive from intel, because the intel is CHEAPER per GB.

The vast majority of people here need more than 30GB and thus must consider the more expensive torqx versions.