SSD Firmware 2.13 for OCZ Vertex 3, Vertex 3 Max IOPS, Agility 3, Solid 3, RevoDrive

groberts101

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you don't need to pull the SSD out if you boot to another drive/OS volume(after running these drives for a while now..you surely have a backup OS volume , right? lol) since that makes it a spare.. or you don't need to do any of that if you boot into the Linux tool.

Linux tool effectively runs from ram.. therefore making every drive on the system a secondary.

and trust me here bud.. you WANT this firmware since it works around the lack of partial slumber mode that Intel themselves pushed for. Glad Sandforce finally saw fit to.. "if ya can't get em' to change to the spec they designed into Windows itself?.. join em' and disable it completely".

This disabled feature will potentially make all the other workarounds coming from other directions.. obsolete.
 

nanaki333

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my home computer setups is easy to upgrade my wife's v3. we both have the level 10GT cases, so i can just slide her drive right in to my case. my work computer though.... i have to walk all the way to my closet and get my old m4, open my case, put it in, boot up, then flash! do you realize how many extra minutes that's going to take!?!?
 

grimpr

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you don't need to pull the SSD out if you boot to another drive/OS volume(after running these drives for a while now..you surely have a backup OS volume , right? lol) since that makes it a spare.. or you don't need to do any of that if you boot into the Linux tool.

Linux tool effectively runs from ram.. therefore making every drive on the system a secondary.

and trust me here bud.. you WANT this firmware since it works around the lack of partial slumber mode that Intel themselves pushed for. Glad Sandforce finally saw fit to.. "if ya can't get em' to change to the spec they designed into Windows itself?.. join em' and disable it completely".

This disabled feature will potentially make all the other workarounds coming from other directions.. obsolete.

Good news, will make a word for it and test around. I've upgraded 2 AMD SB850 systems with 2.13 always using the Linux Tool, flawless upgrade from the super stable but somehow gimped 2.09 f/w. A question, is TRIM really needed on a SF drive? Starting with 2.13 i disabled TRIM just to witness SFs Recycler doing its work with some logoff time and i'm interested knowing more about it. Thanks for all the help groberts101 :thumbsup:
 

groberts101

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this is about the easiest way to learn about the lazy recovery associated with trimmed blocks on this controller. Has to do with the first gen mostly but has the same exact basic function on this newer 6G controller. This newest SF-2281 just has a larger recycling engine(which it would surely need for faster throughput) and can be called more efficient in all aspects mentioned in this link.
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/f...ives-TRIM-OP-area-use-and-Life-write-throttle

So, in a nutshell here?.. this controller can mark those blocks in real-time just as any other controller will do. BUT.. decides to actually set those trim-marked blocks aside for later recovery during lower activity states(hence the idle time rec's). A lazy-trim.. so to speak.

Just because the controller trims those blocks in near immediate fashion has not much to do with when it decides to clean and return them back to the fresh block pool. That's why you can't simply TRIM an entire SF drive and expect it to release it all back to be used immediately and never become throttled.

GC time also allows the little known partial block consolidation algorithm to free up even more space and can be thought of as a free space consolidation/physical space defrag of sorts. These facts alone are what makes GC king on any Sandforce controlled drive. I've been running for nearly 1.5 years without TRIM being needed at all and the very existence of IBIS/Revo drives should point out that it can be done for the longterm.

GC time is THE number one thing I recommend to any who run a Sandforce controlled drive. Next in line would be to do away with all sleep/hibernate modes to be sure the drive doesn't act up if the power transitions don't go as the controller would like them to. I never sleep any of the 11 Sandforce drives I oversee and attribute much of the stability and lack of RMA's to that precaution alone.

PS.. if you do actually sleep the drive then you'll want to change from the typically defaulted S3 sleep mode to S1(in the bios) as that's the only way to keep power to the drive. Or temp disable all sleep/hibernate modes in the W7 power options while you logoff idle the machine. That will give constant power and lower activity since W7 will shutdown many backgroud activities and allow faster recovery. A single overnight logoff idle is usually sufficient for light to moderate usage and the amount of free space left after the OS/apps/data is written should be as high as possible when the required write loads are higher than average. IOW, do a bunch of pic or video edits in a particular session?(even streaming media will buffer huge amounts of data).. then that night would be an excellent candidate for some added recovery time. So, adjust as need to the SSD's write loads.
 
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grimpr

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Excellent tips, the more i read about Sandforce SSD processors the more i understand that they are complex beasts with internal filesystems and advanced deduplication technologies.
 

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Sooo - I just bought one of these drives, and I don't have a backup OS partition. What's the easiest/best way to flash the drive? The Linux tool is just an executable right? It's not bootable... so do I want to boot a live CD and put the tool on a USB stick? And more importantly, am I going to lose my Windows install while doing it?
 

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zCypher

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I wasn't able to use the USB tool for my mom's Vertex3 since her USB WD Elements couldn't be bootable for whatever reason and didn't have a flash drive handy. I was able to boot with the Vertex3 as secondary and update the firmware using the OCZ Toolbox though. We'll see how it goes this time around.

The Vertex2 I have in my own computer I haven't been able to update the firmware but haven't tried the USB method yet. I'm kinda scared to bother doing the update now that it seems to be working ok for now. :p
 

Atheus

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Flashed the drive, install was corrupted, so reinstalled. No bluescreens so far... I think it might be faster even...
 

groberts101

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Sooo - I just bought one of these drives, and I don't have a backup OS partition. What's the easiest/best way to flash the drive? The Linux tool is just an executable right? It's not bootable... so do I want to boot a live CD and put the tool on a USB stick? And more importantly, am I going to lose my Windows install while doing it?


The Linux tool is Parted Magic and IS an actual OS.

If used/booted from a USB stick(which most newer mobo's will allow).. it will then run from RAM and allow/see all other drives connected to be considered secondary volumes which allows proper flashing/secure erasing regardless of the file systems installed on it.
 

AdamK47

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I received two BSODs related to my Vertex 3 120GB drive using the 2.11 firmware. The original firmware had never given me a blue screen before. I wish I hadn't flashed to the 2.11 firmware in the first place. The 2.13 firmware seems good so far, but only time will tell.