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qwex0

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Looking for my first SSD, did some research and nailed it down to the options bellow:

Crucial M4 (i'm aware c300 has better 4k iops)
Intel 320
Samsung 470

The problem is.. it's going to be used with winxp and on sata 2 (till later this year as i'm going with a new sb/bd build).

I would have picked the M4 otherwise, but i don't know if it's a smart choice because of the OS. Unfortunately it doesn't have a toolbox like the Intel and Samsung on xp. Does the built in garbage collector is enough without trim? too much impact on wear/rated lifespan of the ssd? advice...
 
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FishAk

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qwex0 said:
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My advice is to buy one with your next, TRIM capable OS in mind. "later this year" isn't very far away, and if you confine your SSD to the limitations of XP, you will be sorry in the end.
 
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qwex0

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I aware, but despite my next build surely being sata 3, i plan to stay on xp for quite awhile. On the other hand i want to have the option to switch from one another.
 
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The reality is that you probably would struggle to notice the difference without benchmarks between any of these drives. If you have read some of Anand's SSD articles, you'll read that comparing SSD's is quite difficult. The M4 will come into it's own on the sequential read access but only when you eventually move over to a new board, and thats if your workload would make the best use of it. Mine doesn't.

Like you have said, both the 320 and the 470 have a toolbox for manual TRIM - although if you use XP for a few hours and then run the toolbox after booting back into 7, does it clean the blocks from the useage from XP?
 
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qwex0

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Coup27 said:
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Like you have said, both the 320 and the 470 have a toolbox for manual TRIM - although if you use XP for a few hours and then run the toolbox after booting back into 7, does it clean the blocks from the useage from XP?
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I think it will have the same effect as running on XP, it'll clean the blocks no longer used but not as efficiently as TRIM cmd issued by OS. I don't know how the Garbage Collection works on the M4 on a non TRIM-aware OS or if it's going to work at all without being issued. Does GC kick in while idle on XP?
 
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RU482

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if you go the XP route...make sure you align the partition, then install XP to that partition.
 
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CFP

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Without TRIM, the M4 is going to suffer over time unless you do long sequential writes.
 
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qwex0

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After researching a bit more i haven't see RAID0 users complaining about performance drop off, so i guess it won't cause too much impact with GC helping. Perhaps reducing the lifespan of the driver, but looking at the enducance test someone posted on the forum, i'm not sure it will even matter. And yeah, sure aligning it.

Correct me if i got anything wrong, still insecure about what to buy. Also, feedback from M4 users would be appreciated. Thanks everybody!
 
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qwex0

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I knew someone would ask but i'm perfectly fine with XP, mostly due to my usage pattern. With that sum of money i could invest on my new build, buy a larger SSD or two for RAID0 and lose TRIM support anyway ^^ .. of course, this can all change later.
 
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Everyone ran their SSDs without TRIM before it was avaliable and things were just fine.

We used some "tricks" like reserving more "free" space to help, but things were OK.

You'll be fine but I would suggest you figure how much space you need for your OS & programs then double that to get a minimum size for an SSD.

Forget about using 45GB out of a 64GB SSD.

Good Luck!
 
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