SSC Ultimate Aero TT Is The Fastest Car In The World

[overst33r]

WEST RICHLAND, WA (SEPT 13, 2007) - Shelby Supercars (SSC), manufacturer of the ultra high-performance Ultimate Aero Twin Turbo, set the new "World's Fastest Production Car" record earlier today with an average top speed of 255.83 mph. Confident of the 1183 hp vehicle's abilities, SSC set out to validate their top speed claim in accordance with the strict guidelines set by Guinness World Records. Among other requirements, in order to meet Guinness' approval, a vehicle testing for the top speed record must race down the course, turn around, and make a second pass in the opposite direction within one hour.

The vehicle's "top speed" is calculated by averaging the top speeds of each pass in order to negate any favorable road or weather conditions. Today, on a temporarily-closed 2 lane stretch of public highway in Washington State, the Ultimate Aero posted a top speed of 257.11 mph (413.83 kph) on its first pass and 254.55 mph (409.71 kph) on its return pass to set the new top speed record at a staggering 255.83 mph (411.76 kph). The data, collected by Dewetron's world-renowned GPS tracking system, and other checks will be verified by Guinness before the Ultimate Aero is officially crowned the "World's Fastest Production Car." This breaks the current official record held by the Koenigsegg CCR at 242 mph by 11.83 mph and the Bugatti Veyron's unofficial speed of 253 mph by 3.11 mph.

http://jalopnik.com/cars/break...ess-release-299758.php

I wonder how stable it is compared to the Veyron...

 

[exdeath]

I guess what some people consider a "production car" is different from what I consider a "production car".

How many of these actually exist? "Less than 25" is hardly a production car.

But it's nice to see an American car spanking in this class in the face of anti-anything-American Euro-peon snobbery.

1183 HP and 18/27 MPG, and I can't seem to find any information on the engine, just that its 6.2L, no mention of # of valves or DOHC or variable valve control or anything... I'm going to laugh my ass off if I can confirm it's a cam in block push rod engine.

"What's wrong with your inefficient engines Europe? Why can we beat you with half the cylinders and half the turbos? You should be more sophisticated in your engineering to make your engines more efficient" LOL

And it does it all with crappy 91 (I've read 104 but also 91 too so which is it?) octane while most other countries are running 100 octane standard at the pump.

"sophisticated European engineering" lol

 

[mcturkey]

Need more details before I'm interested. What sort of engine is it, what fuel did it use, what is the layout/drivetrain of the car, how much does it weigh, what is the production target, how much will it cost? etc.

The Sledgehammer Corvette went 254.76MPH nearly two decades ago with "only" 880hp, but it was never a "production" car. Squabbling over 2-3mph doesn't impress me much if the car can't be produced in decent numbers with real reliability and stability.

 

[andylawcc]

6.2? probably a LS3 right?

 

[Jahee]

Originally posted by: exdeath
I guess what some people consider a "production car" is different from what I consider a "production car".

How many of these actually exist? "Less than 25" is hardly a production car.

But it's nice to see an American car spanking in this class in the face of anti-anything-American Euro-peon snobbery.

1183 HP and 18/27 MPG, and I can't seem to find any information on the engine, just that its 6.2L, no mention of # of valves or DOHC or variable valve control or anything... I'm going to laugh my ass off if I can confirm it's a cam in block push rod engine.

"What's wrong with your inefficient engines Europe? Why can we beat you with half the cylinders and half the turbos? You should be more sophisticated in your engineering to make your engines more efficient" LOL

And it does it all with crappy 91 (I've read 104 but also 91 too so which is it?) octane while most other countries are running 100 octane standard at the pump.

"sophisticated European engineering" lol

Not even gonna bother to correct you..

 

[exdeath]

HAHAH yes it is an LS3:

http://www.pistonheads.com/roa...s/doc.asp?c=47&i=16487

"There?s something akin to a controlled nuclear explosion as the modified, twin-turbo 6,348cc Corvette pushrod V8 bursts into life."

Apparently this car beats the Enzo for Road & Track's slalom record so it has no problems around the 'twisties' either.

Can't wait for the euro snobs to chime in about how it doesn't matter because it's still ancient unsophisticated dinosaur technology because it doesn't have a DOHC sticker on the trunk lid.

:laugh:

http://www.shelbysupercars.com/carspecs.php

Also confirmed from the manuf. site that it indeed runs on 91 octane.

And various sources pin mileage at 15-18 mpg city and 22-27 mpg highway.

The top speed is claimed to be 273 mph, but due to barriers such as wheel spin at 190+ mph :Q it hasn't been tested to that limit yet.

There are only going to be an estimated 24 built as well, which isn't a production car by my standards.

I like how the rust warranty says N/A, do they see everyone who owns these cars testing that top speed on the salt flats?



What was it you felt needed 'correction', Jahee?

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: exdeath
HAHAH yes it is!

http://www.pistonheads.com/roa...s/doc.asp?c=47&i=16487

"There?s something akin to a controlled nuclear explosion as the modified, twin-turbo 6,348cc Corvette pushrod V8 bursts into life."

Apparently this car beats the Enzo for Road & Track's slalom record so it has no problems around the 'twisties' either.

Can't wait for the euro snobs to chime in about how it doesn't matter because it's still ancient unsophisticated dinosaur technology because it doesn't have a DOHC sticker on the trunk lid.

:laugh:

http://www.shelbysupercars.com/carspecs.php

Also confirmed from the manuf. site that it indeed runs on 91 octane.

And various sources pin mileage at 15-18 mpg city and 22-27 mpg highway.

The top speed is claimed to be 273 mph, but there are barriers such as wheel spin at 190+ mph :Q

What was it you felt needed 'correction', Jahee?

This thread will die quickly as does any other thread that goes against what the majority of AT believes.

Pushrod FTMFW!!!!

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: Ktulu

This thread will die quickly as does any other thread that goes against what the majority of AT believes.

Pushrod FTMFW!!!!

I have a fondness myself for DOHC, especially with forced induction (ie: my 03 Cobra and I'm starting to like the ZR1, maybe any kind of muscle with DOHC for it's rarity). But my point is, we can beat Euro-peon 'sophisticated' engineering with pushrods.

I wouldn't want to know how much a 40 valve DOHC LS7 would push their shit in and make them cry.

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: exdeath

I wouldn't want to know how much a 40 valve DOHC LS7 would push their shit in and make them cry.

LOL, I wouldn't want to know how much a DOHC 40 valve LS7 would weigh.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: exdeath

I wouldn't want to know how much a 40 valve DOHC LS7 would push their shit in and make them cry.

LOL, I wouldn't want to know how much a DOHC 40 valve LS7 would weigh.

more than a DOHC 32V 4.6 😛

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: exdeath
HAHAH yes it is an LS3:

http://www.pistonheads.com/roa...s/doc.asp?c=47&i=16487

"There?s something akin to a controlled nuclear explosion as the modified, twin-turbo 6,348cc Corvette pushrod V8 bursts into life."

Apparently this car beats the Enzo for Road & Track's slalom record so it has no problems around the 'twisties' either.

Can't wait for the euro snobs to chime in about how it doesn't matter because it's still ancient unsophisticated dinosaur technology because it doesn't have a DOHC sticker on the trunk lid.

:laugh:

http://www.shelbysupercars.com/carspecs.php

Also confirmed from the manuf. site that it indeed runs on 91 octane.

And various sources pin mileage at 15-18 mpg city and 22-27 mpg highway.

The top speed is claimed to be 273 mph, but due to barriers such as wheel spin at 190+ mph :Q it hasn't been tested to that limit yet.

There are only going to be an estimated 24 built as well, which isn't a production car by my standards.

I like how the rust warranty says N/A, do they see everyone who owns these cars testing that top speed on the salt flats?



What was it you felt needed 'correction', Jahee?

good lord the LS3 is a beast! i hope that's what the ZR-1 is getting (SC LS3 would be hawt) 😀😀😀

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: exdeath
I guess what some people consider a "production car" is different from what I consider a "production car".

How many of these actually exist? "Less than 25" is hardly a production car.

But it's nice to see an American car spanking in this class in the face of anti-anything-American Euro-peon snobbery.

1183 HP and 18/27 MPG, and I can't seem to find any information on the engine, just that its 6.2L, no mention of # of valves or DOHC or variable valve control or anything... I'm going to laugh my ass off if I can confirm it's a cam in block push rod engine.

"What's wrong with your inefficient engines Europe? Why can we beat you with half the cylinders and half the turbos? You should be more sophisticated in your engineering to make your engines more efficient" LOL

And it does it all with crappy 91 (I've read 104 but also 91 too so which is it?) octane while most other countries are running 100 octane standard at the pump.

"sophisticated European engineering" lol

Not to nitpick, but the Veyron powerplant is de-tuned from 1600hp nominal. I suspect it's for drivability/longevity purposes. An extra 500hp won't help in the 0-60 times, but would probably push the Veyron to 260-270.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Not to nitpick, but the Veyron powerplant is de-tuned from 1600hp nominal. I suspect it's for drivability/longevity purposes. An extra 500hp won't help in the 0-60 times, but would probably push the Veyron to 260-270.

Yeah I hear ya, but a 6.2L V8 only making 1183 HP is detuned as well, they can make over 4,000 HP when tuned to their full potential 😉 No doubt the Veyron could make even more tuned the same way as it has 8.0L (displacement is what matters, not necessarily configuration)

Bottom line is this just shows that the euros are full of crap when they stick their noses in the air and ramble about their 'sophisticated engineering'. Here is an example of someone doing without making it more complicated and 'over engineered' than it needs to be.

Anyone can build an impressive car when they put the time and effort into it. We just don't do it on this side of the lake as often because our market is determined by what people will actually buy, in volume, not what gives manufacturers e-peens.

Those people need to stop believing everything they hear on Top Gear or whatever that Brit show is called.

I will give this to the Veyron though... the Aero is a raw sports car. Cadillac would have to build a 250+ mph luxary car to compare fairly to the Veyron. It's more significant to propel a 4,000 lb car with heated seats and a wine chiller to 250+ than it is for a raw race car without A/C (maybe exaggerating or truth, I didn't look at the luxury features of either car). Cadillac 16 anyone?

But we Americans typically don't want jack of all trades master of none compromises, we either want the fastest car, or the most plush car, and anyone who knows cars knows that those two things are always at odds with each other in every aspect. Compromises give us the best of neither and the worst of both.

 

[andylawcc]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
Not to nitpick, but the Veyron powerplant is de-tuned from 1600hp nominal. I suspect it's for drivability/longevity purposes. An extra 500hp won't help in the 0-60 times, but would probably push the Veyron to 260-270.

really? i read otherwise, VW was having a real hard time pushing it beyond 1000 hp.

 

[fstime]

exdeath, no one mentioned or brought any "euro-snobbery" into this thread.

You're bashing seems to be directed to no one in this thread and makes you sound like an extreme fanboy spewing flame bait.

Your the only one here bringing it up.

 

[overst33r]

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: Arkaign
Not to nitpick, but the Veyron powerplant is de-tuned from 1600hp nominal. I suspect it's for drivability/longevity purposes. An extra 500hp won't help in the 0-60 times, but would probably push the Veyron to 260-270.

really? i read otherwise, VW was having a real hard time pushing it beyond 1000 hp.

Where did you read this? Because what I've read says the engine produces over 3000hp, 1000 goes to waste through cooling and another 1000 through the tranny/exhaust. The turbo chargers use 18psi as a maximum. I don't think it would be far fetched if someone came out with a chip for the Veyron to get the hp value closer to 1600. The reason the above is possible is because VW had to detune the car significantly to increase tranny and engine longevity. It is widely known and accepted that VW underrated the Veyron. The bhp is closer to 1100 than 1000.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: BouZouki
exdeath, no one mentioned or brought any "euro-snobbery" into this thread.

You're bashing seems to be directed to no one in this thread and makes you sound like an extreme fanboy spewing flame bait.

Your the only one here bringing it up.

see jeremy clarkson for example, who can't possibly fathom the concept of a muscle car.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: BouZouki
exdeath, no one mentioned or brought any "euro-snobbery" into this thread.

You're bashing seems to be directed to no one in this thread and makes you sound like an extreme fanboy spewing flame bait.

Your the only one here bringing it up.

see jeremy clarkson for example, who can't possibly fathom the concept of a muscle car.

Aye, I hate snobbery of either type. I don't see it as an 'us vs. them' thing either 🙂

 

[fstime]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: BouZouki
exdeath, no one mentioned or brought any "euro-snobbery" into this thread.

You're bashing seems to be directed to no one in this thread and makes you sound like an extreme fanboy spewing flame bait.

Your the only one here bringing it up.

see jeremy clarkson for example, who can't possibly fathom the concept of a muscle car.

The only review I saw from him regarding a muscle car was the Shelby GT500, he did not like the fact that it didn't have a limited slip in the rear so the tires basically smoked and squealed through the turns.

He had a valid point though, at least Rouch(sp) upgraded the suspension and added a LSD and other things to compensate for the added power, not just a power increase.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: BouZouki
exdeath, no one mentioned or brought any "euro-snobbery" into this thread.

You're bashing seems to be directed to no one in this thread and makes you sound like an extreme fanboy spewing flame bait.

Your the only one here bringing it up.

see jeremy clarkson for example, who can't possibly fathom the concept of a muscle car.

Aye, I hate snobbery of either type. I don't see it as an 'us vs. them' thing either 🙂

Agreed 100% on the snobbery, but it's mostly the political environment.

I can't count how many car discussions have turned in Bush/Iraq bash fests after pointing out an Ameircan car that doesn't suck and leaving them no recourse to bash the car... it's just hate for successful America in general.

In my experience there is far more snobbery from Europeans who see that the car doesn't have a BMW or Mercedes logo and immediately bash before they even know the specs of the car. "oh look another gas guzzling iron push rod Chevy that's only good in a straight line" blah blah blah.

And nobody ever says anything... Just made it a point that I wouldn't be silent and just sit there and take it anymore.

I can appreciate all cars, but the biased slandering for anything American, cars or otherwise, needs to be curbed even if I'm the only one doing it.

Things should be judged on their own merit, not on who makes them.

But I cant help but turn the tables and take a cheap stab when the opportunity arises, which was the whole basis of my post 😀

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: Arkaign
Not to nitpick, but the Veyron powerplant is de-tuned from 1600hp nominal. I suspect it's for drivability/longevity purposes. An extra 500hp won't help in the 0-60 times, but would probably push the Veyron to 260-270.

really? i read otherwise, VW was having a real hard time pushing it beyond 1000 hp.

Where did you read this? Because what I've read says the engine produces over 3000hp, 1000 goes to waste through cooling and another 1000 through the tranny/exhaust. The turbo chargers use 18psi as a maximum. I don't think it would be far fetched if someone came out with a chip for the Veyron to get the hp value closer to 1600. The reason the above is possible is because VW had to detune the car significantly to increase tranny and engine longevity. It is widely known and accepted that VW underrated the Veyron. The bhp is closer to 1100 than 1000.

Number of turbos and cylinders is inconsequential. It's 8.0L and 6000 RPM, and whatever boost it is. 18 psi with 8.0L, 1600HP is believable, easily. 3000HP would not be possible on gasoline with that displacement and RPM and pump gas compatible low boost levels.

 

[mooncancook]

i was expecting an Audi TT with some extreme mods...

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: exdeath
HAHAH yes it is an LS3:

http://www.pistonheads.com/roa...s/doc.asp?c=47&i=16487

"There?s something akin to a controlled nuclear explosion as the modified, twin-turbo 6,348cc Corvette pushrod V8 bursts into life."

Apparently this car beats the Enzo for Road & Track's slalom record so it has no problems around the 'twisties' either.

Can't wait for the euro snobs to chime in about how it doesn't matter because it's still ancient unsophisticated dinosaur technology because it doesn't have a DOHC sticker on the trunk lid.

:laugh:

http://www.shelbysupercars.com/carspecs.php

Also confirmed from the manuf. site that it indeed runs on 91 octane.

And various sources pin mileage at 15-18 mpg city and 22-27 mpg highway.

The top speed is claimed to be 273 mph, but due to barriers such as wheel spin at 190+ mph :Q it hasn't been tested to that limit yet.

There are only going to be an estimated 24 built as well, which isn't a production car by my standards.

I like how the rust warranty says N/A, do they see everyone who owns these cars testing that top speed on the salt flats?



What was it you felt needed 'correction', Jahee?

good lord the LS3 is a beast! i hope that's what the ZR-1 is getting (SC LS3 would be hawt) 😀😀😀

Yes. Blue Devil (ZR-1) will have SC LS3. It's rumored to be rated at 685 hp / 583 tq at around 8 psi and 2950 lb curb weight. GM is putting LS3 into everything. Trucks, new Camero, sedans will all sport the some form of the LS3 engine.

 

[overst33r]

Originally posted by: Naustica

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: exdeath
HAHAH yes it is an LS3:

http://www.pistonheads.com/roa...s/doc.asp?c=47&i=16487

"There?s something akin to a controlled nuclear explosion as the modified, twin-turbo 6,348cc Corvette pushrod V8 bursts into life."

Apparently this car beats the Enzo for Road & Track's slalom record so it has no problems around the 'twisties' either.

Can't wait for the euro snobs to chime in about how it doesn't matter because it's still ancient unsophisticated dinosaur technology because it doesn't have a DOHC sticker on the trunk lid.

:laugh:

http://www.shelbysupercars.com/carspecs.php

Also confirmed from the manuf. site that it indeed runs on 91 octane.

And various sources pin mileage at 15-18 mpg city and 22-27 mpg highway.

The top speed is claimed to be 273 mph, but due to barriers such as wheel spin at 190+ mph :Q it hasn't been tested to that limit yet.

There are only going to be an estimated 24 built as well, which isn't a production car by my standards.

I like how the rust warranty says N/A, do they see everyone who owns these cars testing that top speed on the salt flats?



What was it you felt needed 'correction', Jahee?

good lord the LS3 is a beast! i hope that's what the ZR-1 is getting (SC LS3 would be hawt) 😀😀😀

Yes. Blue Devil (ZR-1) will have SC LS3. It's rumored to be rated at 685 hp / 583 tq at around 8 psi and 2950 lb curb weight. GM is putting LS3 into everything. Trucks, new Camero, sedans will all sport the some form of the LS3 engine.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo *dies*

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: Naustica

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: exdeath
HAHAH yes it is an LS3:

http://www.pistonheads.com/roa...s/doc.asp?c=47&i=16487

"There?s something akin to a controlled nuclear explosion as the modified, twin-turbo 6,348cc Corvette pushrod V8 bursts into life."

Apparently this car beats the Enzo for Road & Track's slalom record so it has no problems around the 'twisties' either.

Can't wait for the euro snobs to chime in about how it doesn't matter because it's still ancient unsophisticated dinosaur technology because it doesn't have a DOHC sticker on the trunk lid.

:laugh:

http://www.shelbysupercars.com/carspecs.php

Also confirmed from the manuf. site that it indeed runs on 91 octane.

And various sources pin mileage at 15-18 mpg city and 22-27 mpg highway.

The top speed is claimed to be 273 mph, but due to barriers such as wheel spin at 190+ mph :Q it hasn't been tested to that limit yet.

There are only going to be an estimated 24 built as well, which isn't a production car by my standards.

I like how the rust warranty says N/A, do they see everyone who owns these cars testing that top speed on the salt flats?



What was it you felt needed 'correction', Jahee?

good lord the LS3 is a beast! i hope that's what the ZR-1 is getting (SC LS3 would be hawt) 😀😀😀

Yes. Blue Devil (ZR-1) will have SC LS3. It's rumored to be rated at 685 hp / 583 tq at around 8 psi and 2950 lb curb weight. GM is putting LS3 into everything. Trucks, new Camero, sedans will all sport the some form of the LS3 engine.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo *dies*

are you noooooooooooooo-ing his spelling or the fact that the camaro will get the LS3?

i think the new camaro is 10x better than the challenger, and i'd take one in a heartbeat