Spyware: IT's public enemy No. 1

Freejack2

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I searched for the keyword spyware and didn't find any posts about this article.
It's been getting pretty bad at my job, I've had times when I've spent a whole day clearing out spyware from just one system.

Educating people doesn't seem to usually work, clean it out, they go back to their old habits and a couple of months later I'm getting a call because their system won't update or it's crawling.

When is our government going to make this illegal so that maybe some spyware developers might think twice with the fear of jail time over their heads?

news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5541802.html

Spyware: IT's public enemy No. 1
By Rick Broida Special to ZDNet January 20, 2005, 4:02 AM PT

What's the biggest threat to business networks in 2005? Front-line IT managers and security firms increasingly peg spyware as public enemy No. 1.

At Saturn Electronics & Engineering, a Detroit-based provider of manufacturing outsourcing services, the problems began last summer. The company's 500 users noticed that Web browsing was sometimes slow. Very slow. IT Manager Dave Higgins suspected virus activity, but manual virus scans turned up nothing. He then scoured the machines with Lavasoft's Ad-Aware and found the culprit: spyware. Once removed, the systems returned to normal operation.

"We now often scan for spyware before we check for viruses," Higgins said. "We are currently seeing Bargain Buddy, GAIN, b3d projector, Gator, n-Case, SaveNow, Search Toolbar, Webhancer, (and) Search Assistant."

Putting spyware first may become standard operating procedure this year. Businesses report spyware incidents rising sharply in recent months, and many IT departments have been on the receiving end of a nasty wake-up call. Typically associated with unprotected home PCs, spyware could soon qualify as the top security headache in the corporate world.

"An incredible problem"
At Southwire, a producer of building wire and utility cable, at least 70 percent of the company's 2,500 computer users encountered some form of spyware in the last 18 months. That's according to Tim Powers, a senior network administrator at the Carrollton, GA, firm. "Spyware is becoming a larger and larger problem for our desktop support staff," he said.

It's a similar situation at Time Warner Cable in Greensboro, N.C. "We get all kinds of spyware problems," said Sanjeev Shetty, director of information technology services for the 450-user location. "We had one PC that had 1,400 pieces of spyware on it." Shetty estimated that his staff deals with 8-10 spyware-related incidents per week. "It can take anywhere from two hours to all day to fix these. With a limited staff, this can really tie up resources."

Spyware poses challenges for other kinds of institutions as well. At Marist College in Poughkeepsie, NY, the IT department devotes upwards of 90 percent of its resources to combating spyware and issues related to it, according to Analyst Dave Hughes in the school's ResNet department. "ResNet as a whole has spent thousands of hours running spyware scans and other removal tools," he said.

"It's an incredible problem," added Kathleen LaBarbera, Marist's manager of operations and ResNet. "Spyware on a PC can be just as dangerous as having a virus. Most PC users have heard of spyware, but don't really know what it is or does."

Do you mean adware, malware, Trojans??
Many analysts and administrators agree that while spyware's impact is rising, its definition remains elusive. The umbrella term most commonly refers to a wide range of unethical software, from difficult-to-uninstall toolbars to home-page hijackers and pop-up window generators. In a new poll of security administrators and IT managers, conducted by security firm WatchGuard Technologies, 50 percent of respondents said the vast majority of users don't know what spyware is.

Two-thirds of respondents said they feel less protected against spyware than against phishing or viruses. And the kicker: 67 percent of the IT professionals in WatchGuard's survey cited spyware as the greatest security threat to their networks in 2005.

The problem has become so serious that Microsoft is working to combat it at the OS level. With 2004's release of Windows XP SP2, the company retrofitted Internet Explorer with a pop-up blocker and gave users a more-robust firewall. In early January, Microsoft unveiled Windows AntiSpyware for Windows 2000, XP, and Server 2003. The software is a rebranded collection of utilities from Giant Software, which Microsoft purchased late last year. The package promises not only spyware detection and removal but also real-time protection. (Many other free utilities must be run manually.) Currently in beta, Windows AntiSpyware will be free until July, at which time Microsoft is expected to charge for the software and service.

The Firefox solution
What remains to be seen is whether these efforts can keep users from migrating to Mozilla's Firefox. Part of the attraction of the open-source browser is its reputation as being significantly more spyware-proof than Internet Explorer. Corporations have been slower than individuals to change browsers, citing compatibility concerns, but many IT departments are taking a close look at Firefox.

"We have been evaluating Firefox as a more secure browser to help prevent all malware infections," said Higgins of Saturn Electronics. "Currently, it runs about 90 percent of our intranet applications."

"Internet Explorer is an inherently vulnerable browser, partly because it has such a high user base and also due to poor coding by Microsoft," said Hughes. "Here at Marist, we recommend that users use (it) only for Internet Explorer-specific tasks, such as Windows Update, and use Mozilla Firefox for all other browsing."

With spyware attacks now coming from even the most innocuous-seeming software, enterprises may decide to follow suit. Security researchers at Panda Software recently discovered a pair of Trojans -- programs that let outsiders make changes to a user's PC, including loading other spyware -- that leverage DRM (digital rights management) technology built into Windows Media Player. When a user attempts to download a license requested by WMP, the Trojans redirect the browser to a Web site that attacks the user's system with a barrage of spyware.

"Spyware costs money"
Regardless of how a PC gets infected, the results can be serious: compromised company security, overloaded networks, and significant user downtime and inconvenience. Although the symptoms of a system that's overwhelmed with spyware vary, the primary indicators include sluggish performance, broken Internet connections, and possibly even an unusable PC.

"We've seen individual issues ranging from hijacked home pages and pop-ups to aggravatingly slow performance to completely unstable platforms," said Nick Twentyfive, senior network analyst for CTG, an IT and outsourcing solutions company in Buffalo, N.Y. "Back doors installed by spyware can be used by third parties for more serious security breaches. Lost network bandwidth and computer performance reduces productivity. Basically, spyware costs money."

And the problem isn't going away anytime soon. "Spyware's getting harder and harder to remove," he said. "Some of the spyware variants out now have forced anti-spyware companies to make targeted plug-ins to properly deal with them. That's just evil."

Perhaps unsurprisingly, as of mid-January a pair of anti-spyware utilities -- Lavasoft's Ad-Aware SE and PepiMK Software's Spybot Search & Destroy -- ranked as the No. 1 and No. 2 most popular downloads at CNET Download.com. But at least one observer thinks the spyware epidemic is overblown, at least where corporations are concerned.

"Much or even most spyware comes from consumers installing 'free' content or software that they shouldn't," said Jeff Duntemann, author of Degunking Your Email, Spam, and Viruses. "At the enterprise level, businesses have the talent and budget to create and enforce policies that prevent staffers from installing things themselves."

Southwire's Tim Powers disagrees: "Misspell a common domain name and you are likely to land on a domain that will inject spyware into your PC." For users today, he said, "It is difficult to avoid getting spyware if you surf the Internet at all."
 

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I really, really, really fvcking hate it. Not that I condone death, but if I _had_ to choose between an average person dying in a fire or five spyware developers dying in a fire...well you know which one I'd pick.
 

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1. Make sure you see hidden files and folders, and that you do not have a C:\Temp directory.
2. Create a file named Temp in the root of C: (just create a new text document and remove the .txt extension for example)
3. Start -> Run -> CMD
4. Type: C:
5. Type: CD
6. Type: ATTRIB +r +s +h TEMP

Several of the more annoying types of spyware copy/download themselves to the C:\Temp directory, and if needed create it first. Their installation stuff gets an error when it encounters a hidden/read-only system file named Temp in C:\, and the installation stops.

Until they discover this and change it again.
 

Freejack2

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Interesting, I'll have to do this on the more spyware ridden systems.
Thanks.

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
1. Make sure you see hidden files and folders, and that you do not have a C:\Temp directory.
2. Create a file named Temp in the root of C: (just create a new text document and remove the .txt extension for example)
3. Start -> Run -> CMD
4. Type: C:
5. Type: CD
6. Type: ATTRIB +r +s +h TEMP

Several of the more annoying types of spyware copy/download themselves to the C:\Temp directory, and if needed create it first. Their installation stuff gets an error when it encounters a hidden/read-only system file named Temp in C:\, and the installation stops.

Until they discover this and change it again.

 

duragezic

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It's not hard to avoid it, but most people are too dumb with computers. A day or two ago I finally decided to install Ad-aware SE and updated it only to find it found maybe 7 entries. I got my new computer back in August and had not AV or anti-spyware installed since then. So in over 4 months of heavy usage I only managed to pick up those few entries.
 

amdskip

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I'm a resnet technician here at school and I have several computers with the about:blank that I cannot get rid of. I have tried everything and nothing seems to work.
 

dman

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Originally posted by: duragezic
It's not hard to avoid it, but most people are too dumb with computers. A day or two ago I finally decided to install Ad-aware SE and updated it only to find it found maybe 7 entries. I got my new computer back in August and had not AV or anti-spyware installed since then. So in over 4 months of heavy usage I only managed to pick up those few entries.

Depends on how you use your PC and the sites you visit.
 

halik

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Just got done fixing a computer in the office. Took me about 30 mins to get done, so the spyware cost my emplyer almost 7 bucks.
There needs to be legislature that would allow people to sue the spyware providers directly for financial loss, cuz i hate dealing with that shit


I've switched just about everyon to firefox
 

acemcmac

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I would have no problem personally killing ANYONE who I *KNEW* to help develop spyware- with my bare hands and tweezers.
 

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I really, really, really fvcking hate it. Not that I condone death, but if I _had_ to choose between an average person dying in a fire or five spyware developers dying in a fire...well you know which one I'd pick.
:thumbsup:
 

Freejack2

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Originally posted by: amdskip
I'm a resnet technician here at school and I have several computers with the about:blank that I cannot get rid of. I have tried everything and nothing seems to work.

I had to deal with that stupid virus. Took a while to figure out how to remove it. Here is a link on how to fix it:
www.akadia.com/services/about_blank_virus.html

The last time though I seem to recall I took ownership of the hidden file and cleaned it out. I just don't remember how I did it.
 

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I work on a military base, and these guys just LOVE going to sites they're not supposed to. On some machines we have to re-image the whole thing 'cause of fvckin' spyware.

If I had one wish it would be to spend 5 minutes bludgeoning the dirtbags that peddle this sh!t !!!!! :|
 

Vic

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The issue here is that spyware is not *like* a virus, as this article seems to say and most everyone seems to think.

Spyware *IS* a type of virus. Perhaps not self-replicating, but created with similar malicious purposes. And the fear of rampant spyware is perhaps the biggest single thing keeping Americans away from broadband (and even just the internet) right now.
 

Pliablemoose

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I'm all for the freaking death penalty for spyware developers & distributors.

Just noticed I've been getting popups with Firefox, anyone got another decent browser that's not going to be in the crosshairs of spyware developers for a while?
 

DurocShark

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Originally posted by: Vic
The issue here is that spyware is not *like* a virus, as this article seems to say and most everyone seems to think.

Spyware *IS* a type of virus. Perhaps not self-replicating, but created with similar malicious purposes. And the fear of rampant spyware is perhaps the biggest single thing keeping Americans away from broadband (and even just the internet) right now.

I agree. And I have one that was self-replicating. To the point where it was on my camera memory cards too. :|

I think spyware writers should be made to pay for costs associated with dealing with the damn things.
 

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Firefox + Kerio + Spybot = yeeehaw

With these three properly configured, I'm astonished and devastated when even one bug comes up over a period of months.
 

PingSpike

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If users aren't listening to your advice about how to avoid getting it again, make a drive image of the clean machine and every time it happens again just reimage the whole system. Sure, they'll lose all their favorites and crap...but who cares? Just tell them that the spyware did it.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Vic
The issue here is that spyware is not *like* a virus, as this article seems to say and most everyone seems to think.

Spyware *IS* a type of virus. Perhaps not self-replicating, but created with similar malicious purposes. And the fear of rampant spyware is perhaps the biggest single thing keeping Americans away from broadband (and even just the internet) right now.

My cable company is the biggest single thing keeping me away from broadband right now. Bastards don't offer it in my area. :(

I agree though that Spyware is a type of virus... it just has a "purpose," while most viruses have no real purpose.
 

Amused

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Spyware is a HUGE cash cow to those paid to remove it. :p

For many of you, it's job security. If everything went smoothly they would need fewer IT drones.
 

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Originally posted by: Amused
Spyware is a HUGE cash cow to those paid to remove it. :p

For many of you, it's job security. If everything went smoothly they would need fewer IT drones.

He got us there. It is annoying removing it, but isn't it more annoying to find a job? ;)

Also, w/ Microsoft and Giant Software holding hands now, they seemed to have created a very reliable spyware detection agent. Couple that w/ Firefox and I think we'll be good for go.

Now for those saying that corporate people that use MS based web services such as Solomon's Desktop etc. will not allow any other browser other than MSIE to log in, all you have to do is open up a Windows Explorer window and type in the web address

*You can remove IE but cannot remove the core of it from the OS unless your programming skill is on GOD-MODE