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CasioTech

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I'm thinking of getting one of these:




Honda CBR six hundred double R
Honda Shadow seven fifty




Are ducati worth the extra cash? Does anyone know the invoice price that the dealer pays for these, I want to gdt the best deal
 

Desslok

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Originally posted by: CasioTech
I'm thinking of getting one of these: Honda CBR six hundred double R Honda Shadow seven fifty Are ducati worth the extra cash? Does anyone know the invoice price that the dealer pays for these, I want to gdt the best deal

Do you have any experiance on bikes?
 

Mr N8

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If you are learning, get the CBR. It will be a lot of fun, especially over the shadow. If you are a good rider, and you have the $$$, go for the Ducati. They are a much nicer bike, but you don't want to fvck it up by learning on it.
 

Desslok

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Originally posted by: MogulMonster
If you are learning, get the CBR. It will be a lot of fun, especially over the shadow. If you are a good rider, and you have the $$$, go for the Ducati. They are a much nicer bike, but you don't want to fvck it up by learning on it.


No you don't, carbon fiber is rather spendy to replace. Good advice here.
 

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Originally posted by: CasioTech
I'm thinking of getting one of these:

Honda CBR six hundred double R
Honda Shadow seven fifty

Are ducati worth the extra cash? Does anyone know the invoice price that the dealer pays for these, I want to gdt the best deal

I'm voting for the sink or swim theory here. For a first bke the CBR 600RR (not double R) is risky. My first bike was a 2000 CBR F4..

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If you feel you are coordinated and smart enough to use the bike properly then you'll be fine. Although, i'd recommend you take MSF courses first.
 

CasioTech

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What about the nine five four, or the nine eight nine, is it worth getting a bigger bike for the extra grand or grand and a half that it costs, or should I keep it at a smaller size
 

silverpig

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Get a used CBR 600 F4. Maybe one that's been dropped once (but only if the damage is just cosmetic... no mechanical problems). Use it and abuse it for a year, then sell it for 85% of what you paid. Then, if you have the cash, get a Ducati.
 

CasioTech

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I'm really looking for a bike that I could use everyday for almost everythng, in the rain too that will be low maintainence and last a long time, I know homnda cars are good at reliability. Do the bikes do a hundred thousand miles on the engines generally? Are they trouble free when they are old, because I am not that technically advanced with automotive items ;)
 

Desslok

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Originally posted by: CasioTech
What about the nine five four, or the nine eight nine, is it worth getting a bigger bike for the extra grand or grand and a half that it costs, or should I keep it at a smaller size

We would like to know if you have any experiance on bikes? If not a 600RR would be way to much! Why not look at a used bike at first then upgrade after made all your squidly mistakes on the used bike.
 

CasioTech

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I didn't want to say, but i only ahve scooter experience ;) I want to get one bike and keep it, mayb e I should take courses or ride it slow for a while
 

blackdogdeek

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if you've only had scooter experience then definitely take courses and get a lighter and less powerful bike to learn on. bikes aren't that expensive and you almost certainly will be able to sell your learning bike.
 

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If you have no experience on motorcycles, and you want something as a daily driver, then stay as far away from a Ducati as possible. They're moody, expensive, and can scare the hell outta people who've been riding for years. That said, there's also nothing like the sound of that twin :)

I'd say go for the CBR as well, if you have to have a 600. A 500 is a much easier size to learn on, and the potential for killing yourself is a lot lower. I'd recommend against getting any sort of new bike if you're just now learning to ride...because you WILL make mistakes which could possibly fuxx0r both your equipment and yourself.

But if you go for a 900 or a litre-bike...well...good luck.
 

Desslok

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Originally posted by: CasioTech
I didn't want to say, but i only ahve scooter experience ;) I want to get one bike and keep it, mayb e I should take courses or ride it slow for a while

Do yourself a favor and buy a used F4 and take a riding coruse. Going from a scooter to a sport bike is like going from a Pinto to a Mustang Cobra.
 

Murpheeee

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take the MSF course

I did last year - very worthwhile.
Even guys who had been riding before were on it and learned a lot

http://www.msf-usa.org/

EDIT: You also get a reduction in your insurance on your bike and with most companies your auto too.
 

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and if you're looking for a shadow, may i suggest that you buy my yamaha v-star classic 650? :) it's pretty much the exact same bike.
 

Murpheeee

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Originally posted by: mjquilly
and if you're looking for a shadow, may i suggest that you buy my yamaha v-star classic 650? :) it's pretty much the exact same bike.

I would love one of those......tell me more!
 

mjquilly

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Originally posted by: Murpheeee
Originally posted by: mjquilly
and if you're looking for a shadow, may i suggest that you buy my yamaha v-star classic 650? :) it's pretty much the exact same bike.

I would love one of those......tell me more!

whatcha want to know? it's a 99, black w/ red detailing, all stock except that i added saddlebags/saddlebag guards. just uner 3900 miles.

check here
 

amnesiac

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DUde, you don't "spell out" the numbers.

It's a 600RR, Shadow 750, 954, 989, etc.

Those refer to the displacement of the engine in cc's.

Also, since you are obviously a pre-teen goober that wants more balls than will fit in your mouth, I'd SERIOUSLY advise you to stick to something less than a 600. A good starter bike is a Suzuki GS500. Cheap, easy to fix WHEN you spill, and not so powerful that you'll kill yourself within a week.

Dunno what state you're in but chances are you'll need a motorcycle license and have to pass a state course. I'd heartily reccommend taking additional lessons as well. Motorcycle riding is very dangerous and not to be taken with a flippant attitude. THe last thing anyone needs is another squid turning the asphalt red.
 
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Originally posted by: CasioTech
I'm really looking for a bike that I could use everyday for almost everythng, in the rain too that will be low maintainence and last a long time, I know homnda cars are good at reliability. Do the bikes do a hundred thousand miles on the engines generally? Are they trouble free when they are old, because I am not that technically advanced with automotive items ;)

Super sports aren fun for commuting..

Get a stand up.. and since you got Scooter Experience which actully counts in my boooks because i came from an scooter and infact i want to get the Honda SilverWing 600 Sports Scooter.

Anyway Look into the Kawasaki Ninja 500R and Suzuki GS500. The CBR's are not bad bikes but they are a whole lot of power. Though its manageable power for an expereinced rider you can still get yourself into trouble mighty fast.

As for ducati's those desmo engines suck the life out of your bank acct. They are sweet bikes but just stay out of them..

Cruisers like the Shadow 750 are quite a bit heavier.. but they ride nice and drop quite neatly into the corners at lower speeds but any high speed active cornering could have the bottom of your boots scraping the tarmac.
 

malbojah

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Originally posted by: The_good_guy
Originally posted by: CasioTech
I'm really looking for a bike that I could use everyday for almost everythng, in the rain too that will be low maintainence and last a long time, I know homnda cars are good at reliability. Do the bikes do a hundred thousand miles on the engines generally? Are they trouble free when they are old, because I am not that technically advanced with automotive items ;)

Super sports aren fun for commuting..

Get a stand up.. and since you got Scooter Experience which actully counts in my boooks because i came from an scooter and infact i want to get the Honda SilverWing 600 Sports Scooter.

Anyway Look into the Kawasaki Ninja 500R and Suzuki GS500. The CBR's are not bad bikes but they are a whole lot of power. Though its manageable power for an expereinced rider you can still get yourself into trouble mighty fast.

As for ducati's those desmo engines suck the life out of your bank acct. They are sweet bikes but just stay out of them..

Cruisers like the Shadow 750 are quite a bit heavier.. but they ride nice and drop quite neatly into the corners at lower speeds but any high speed active cornering could have the bottom of your boots scraping the tarmac.

Steel toe boots are fun for this reason. I got bored riding behind somebody last night so every now and then, I would drag my feet on the road.

I've also noticed I've become a lot more agressive in riding since I came back from my road trip. Time to give up the bike for a while
 

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I bought a '01 CBR600 F4i in May '01 and dropped it a week later going 2 mph into a turn with potholes. Cosmetic damage hurts big on a bike that pretty. Lucky for me (sarcasm) some j@ck@ss stole it 6 months later. I lost about 3k after all was said and done. I plan to get another 600 probably RR next year (mainly because the tailpipe goes under the seat) after I have a house with a garage to keep it in. I would have to say that 600cc is gonna be more than enough for me for a long time to come. Sometimes I get really sad when I see people on great looking sports bikes. Not sad for them, sad for me. :brokenheart:

BTW, it was my first bike I ever rode. Went to the dealership after taking my written test and drove it home. Man was I nervous but not many mechanical things can compare to riding a sport bike. Scared myself more than a few times on that thing, fastest I ever had it was 130 on the highway. I wait anxiously to do it again.
 

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How the heck did I miss a bike thread?

:D

Well, if you are absolutely set on one of these...

Avoid Ducks like the plague. You cannot afford one, you cannot ride one, and you will sell it in 6 months assuming you are lucky enough that the two of you survive. You will then be too scared to go back on the scooter and regret the day you threw a leg over it.


The Shadow is too big and heavy. Period.


That leaves the RR. It is a great all around performer, and reliable. You will dump it of course, because you chose a bike beyond your skill level, but you won't believe me anyway. When that happens, and you recover from whatever injuries wind up with, you will find it cheaper to repair than many bikes.

If by some chance you do listen to people here, the 500R and GS500 that TGG suggests are plenty of machine.

If you are a good rider, you will probably be up for the 600 in a year or two, and a few years after that MAYBE a liter class bike. There are not many who can ride them to anything like their full potential and live to tell about it. I am not exaggerating. Don't concentrate on moving up in machines, rather on improving your skills. A good rider on a 600 can take a squid on a gixxer 1000 any day.