Spider-Man Joining Marvel Cinematic Universe

[preslove]

I wonder if this deal allows Sony to have more time before losing the Spidey movie rights. I would be nice to see a quality Spiderman movie. Disney/Marvel can only make so many super hero movie so allowing other studios to do others is fine with me, just stop with the crap movies.

Sony will continue to make the stand-alone spidey movies, but the head of Marvel studies will be a co-producer. So "Marvel" will have a major say in everything.

 

[Kaido]

He would be great.

The more I think about it, the funnier it gets. I keep hearing his nasally IT Crowd voice doing funny Spidey lines, they need to do this on an SNL skit at least

 

[K1052]

Not much of a surprise with the lackluster box office of AS2 (particularly in light of other Marvel properties), a dearth of creative options, and a damaged studio reputation/leadership change.

 

[Skel]

I was talking about MCU. The Spiderman universes sony has worked on are being eliminated in favor of just adding spidey to the MCU. The Avengers movie was based on an Ultimates storyline, with the Sam Jackson style Nick Fury, etc.

All I'm saying is that if spiderman was Miles instead of peter, the vast majority of movie goers wouldn't care, and the only people loudly complaining will be closeted racists.

That's what I think really bothers me.. it's bullshit to say that because someone wants the same character they grew up with and loved is a racist. It's such bullshit that I honestly have a hard time seeing how that has anything to do with racism.

I also do think that a lot of people would care, and I also think it would confuse a lot of people too. People are expecting more of what they've been seeing.

 

[preslove]

Not much of a surprise with the lackluster box office of AS2 (particularly in light of other Marvel properties), a dearth of creative options, and a damaged studio reputation/leadership change.

Yeah, the big problem is Sony management. This deal brings in Kevin feige, the brains behind the MCU, to coproduce.

 

[waggy]

All I'm saying is that if spiderman was Miles instead of peter, the vast majority of movie goers wouldn't care, and the only people loudly complaining will be closeted racists.

LOL what the fuck. /facepalm

 

[Aikouka]

He would be great.

I haven't read any of the miles ultimate story lines. Is he always making jokes in battle like peter?

What? Miles Morales is a high school student. I mean... trying to pass off Tobey Maguire as a high school student was quite the stretch, and now you want to pass off Richard Ayoade as one? I love Moss from The IT Crowd, but I don't think that's a great choice.

 

[poofyhairguy]

So now Fox just needs to mix the deadline on an X-Men movie and the MCU won't need to make the Inhumans do everything.

 

[preslove]

So now Fox just needs to mix the deadline on an X-Men movie and the MCU won't need to make the Inhumans do everything.

Fuck that. Brian singer doing an Apocalypse movie is the most exciting movie on the horizon. Singer reset the universe in the last film, so he can have whatever mutants he wants in there. It's going to be epic

 

[AznAnarchy99]

So now Fox just needs to mix the deadline on an X-Men movie and the MCU won't need to make the Inhumans do everything.

I'm fine with Fox. Besides X3 and the Wolverine Origins, all of them have been from decent to great.

 

[HN]

I'm fine with Fox. Besides X3 and the Wolverine Origins, all of them have been from decent to great.

i'd toss both F4 movies under that bus as well. only good thing out of those was the surfer.

 

[preslove]

I'm fine with Fox. Besides X3 and the Wolverine Origins, all of them have been from decent to great.

And those movies got retconned out of the timeline, so we can just pretend like they didn't happen

 

[AznAnarchy99]

And those movies got retconned out of the timeline, so we can just pretend like they didn't happen

Exactly

 

[Jodell88]

I only heard about Miles Morale today. I'm pretty sure if they put him in the movie people would be like "Who the fuck is that?".

I know I would be.

 

[KeithTalent]

^^ I would not care at all, I just don't want another origin story. Besides, I just assume the characters change constantly in the comics, and he is coming into a whole new world now, so whatever he looks like is fine be (assuming dude can act).

I will say it was weird seeing Quicksilver in the Ultron trailer. I really liked the Quicksilver from the X-Men movie, so was disappointed to see a new dude in Ultron.

KT

 

[preslove]

For me, the comics already destroyed peter parker by getting rid of Mary Jane. Worst retconning ever.

 

[Jodell88]

Besides, I just assume the characters change constantly in the comics.

I don't read comics so I can't say for sure how often comics change characters.

However, with some comic book characters and the stories around them it makes more sense. Green Lantern and Captain America for instance can always change because of the origins of those characters. I just can't see it with Spiderman, unless Peter Parker never existed.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Marvel moving around release dates now.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhug...release-dates-as-spider-man-joins-film-slate/

 

[preslove]

I don't read comics so I can't say for sure how often comics change characters.

However, with some comic book characters and the stories around them it makes more sense. Green Lantern and Captain America for instance can always change because of the origins of those characters. I just can't see it with Spiderman, unless Peter Parker never existed.

Peter's clone was kicking around for a while and doc oc was spiey for a bit, too. Age of the supermen.

 

[Skel]

Peter's clone was kicking around for a while and doc oc was spiey for a bit, too. Age of the supermen.

Those changes never last and everyone that reads comics (I should say have read at least one change up return story) knows that the person wearing the costume is just a place holder until the hero everyone knows and loves is back in it. During the Clone Saga I don't know one person that thought Riley was going to replace Parker for good. Same thing with the Doc Ock stuff they ran for close to a year (for those that don't know, Doc Ock stole Parker's body and became the "superior Spider-Man' for a while) and even though Marvel's editors and lead writer were saying the change was permanent at the time, everyone knew Parker would be back by the time the movie came out.. because that's what everyone expected to see.

 

[zinfamous]

They can do the after credits scene if anything. They added that shwarma scene in like 2 weeks after UK release.

good call. would be epic.

 

[zinfamous]

I will say it was weird seeing Quicksilver in the Ultron trailer. I really liked the Quicksilver from the X-Men movie, so was disappointed to see a new dude in Ultron.

KT

Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch were part of the teaser scene in the credits for Captain America 2, as prisoners/weapons for Hydra. It is weird seeing his character out of timeline with the X-Men stories. ....and mutants in the Avengers....but I guess that's what Marvel has been doing for some time now?

 

[Skel]

Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch were part of the teaser scene in the credits for Captain America 2, as prisoners/weapons for Hydra. It is weird seeing his character out of timeline with the X-Men stories. ....and mutants in the Avengers....but I guess that's what Marvel has been doing for some time now?

Not sure what you're saying here...

 

[zinfamous]

Not sure what you're saying here...

which part?

End of Captain America shows Quicksilver/SW in prison cells in that Hydra base.

In the DoFP, the Quicksilver character is, well seems, anyway, very different. I suppose we are talking about decades of difference, so a lot can change...but the two characters seem to be ~the same age in both flicks. I see their story and timeline's being different because of different licensing for those characters. Not sure how they will play Quicksilver as being Magneto's son in the Marvel movie universe, when they can't use Magneto. Maybe they just ignore it?

I was reading X-Men, Spider-Man, Hulk, the cosmic stuff, and various other publishers int he early 90s. X-Men were huge then; Avengers were barely a thing at the time. No one read Captain America, Iron Man got no play. I think, with the exception of Scarlett Witch, maybe? you never really saw mutants being part of the Avengers? Or, maybe Wolverine at certain times. Now, it seems like that has been happening a lot in the last decade more. I haven't read comics since then, but I keep seeing all these drawings and weird team names, and all these Avengers teams that are mostly X-Men.

it's weird.

 

[Skel]

which part?

End of Captain America shows Quicksilver/SW in prison cells in that Hydra base.

In the DoFP, the Quicksilver character is, well seems, anyway, very different. I suppose we are talking about decades of difference, so a lot can change...but the two characters seem to be ~the same age in both flicks. I see their story and timeline's being different because of different licensing for those characters. Not sure how they will play Quicksilver as being Magneto's son in the Marvel movie universe, when they can't use Magneto. Maybe they just ignore it?

I was reading X-Men, Spider-Man, Hulk, the cosmic stuff, and various other publishers int he early 90s. X-Men were huge then; Avengers were barely a thing at the time. No one read Captain America, Iron Man got no play. I think, with the exception of Scarlett Witch, maybe? you never really saw mutants being part of the Avengers? Or, maybe Wolverine at certain times. Now, it seems like that has been happening a lot in the last decade more. I haven't read comics since then, but I keep seeing all these drawings and weird team names, and all these Avengers teams that are mostly X-Men.

it's weird.

Now I'm tracking.. From what I've read they're throwing out Magneto as they can't use him. Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch fall into that odd zone that both companies can use them as they were best known as Avengers. Smart money says they'll be "Inhumans" in the Avengers movies, as Marvel is building that up pretty quick to be it's mutant replacement. They'll have no ties to the X-men stuff movie wise.

Marvel has even gone so far as to remove Magneto as their father. They did a story where it came up that they weren't related to Magneto after all.. Personally I think it's dumb and another way the comics are now following the movies more, but what can you do?