igor_kavinski
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Amazing that the better, more intensive H265 gets done faster.- CPU+VCN/VCE H264, 40 seconds
- CPU+VCN/VCE H265, 30 seconds
Amazing that the better, more intensive H265 gets done faster.- CPU+VCN/VCE H264, 40 seconds
- CPU+VCN/VCE H265, 30 seconds
I think Zen 4 is going to be a pretty big jump with the new process, significantly enhanced architecture, and new platform / memory. I have to wonder if there is really that much time to sell Zen 3 with v-cache before Zen 4 comes. I guess it will be kind of a fall back if DDR5 is still scarce, but how many people would want to buy into a dead end socket with DDR4? I certainly want to wait for next gen with DDR5 now. Also, the demand for Milan will not go away for a while. Sourcing Milan processors still seems to be difficult for some SKUs.The same was true of Zen2 and Zen1/+, considering that the 16C parts will probably clock higher than 32C it's fairly likely to be the case for SIMD heavy workloads.
The 5800X3D is for cpu upgraders. Those that are happy with their setup and DDR4. Especially those that are still on Ryzen 2000 and 3000 series. Very tidy upgrade that will give them years of great performance.I have to wonder if there is really that much time to sell Zen 3 with v-cache before Zen 4 comes. I guess it will be kind of a fall back if DDR5 is still scarce, but how many people would want to buy into a dead end socket with DDR4?
Seeing as how it's almost March and Zen 4 allegedly launches in Q3, the 5800X3D needs to launch within the next 2 months or else it just feels like it's launching too close to Zen 4. Furthermore, the price needs to be competitive as well and not some kind of halo product, because it won't be. I still think $500 is too much for a 5800X3D. It really ought to be $449 max, but ideally Zen 3 comes down in price too.The 5800X3D is for cpu upgraders. Those that are happy with their setup and DDR4. Especially those that are still on Ryzen 2000 and 3000 series. Very tidy upgrade that will give them years of great performance.
Think of it as an AMD marketing campaign. "Trust our sockets. We'll look after you for a long time." Its one of the primary differentiators with Intel.
AMD didn't seem to put much time into h264. IIRC it's no faster than my 2600X using an RX 5700 for VCE. h265 is a much different story.Amazing that the better, more intensive H265 gets done faster.
H264/AVC was designed further back though, and these days encoding it is very well optimised on x264 with even a halfway decent CPU.AMD didn't seem to put much time into h264. IIRC it's no faster than my 2600X using an RX 5700 for VCE. h265 is a much different story.
No. Everything is on track. Always.Why are you believing they are fully truthful now? It won't be the first time they mislead, witness the 10nm multi-year fiasco.
There's a forecast about price of 5800X3D:Seeing as how it's almost March and Zen 4 allegedly launches in Q3, the 5800X3D needs to launch within the next 2 months or else it just feels like it's launching too close to Zen 4. Furthermore, the price needs to be competitive as well and not some kind of halo product, because it won't be. I still think $500 is too much for a 5800X3D. It really ought to be $449 max, but ideally Zen 3 comes down in price too.
I think we can also safely say that Raphael is not launching in April.There's a forecast about price of 5800X3D:
The first batches of the 5800X3D have already shipped, so they should become available sometime this month. Zen 4 could launch any time between July - September. The 5800X3D will still be sold and will be a viable option well into the lifecycle of Zen 4. It is meant as an upgrade option for users that don't want to upgrade their motherboard, CPU, and memory.Seeing as how it's almost March and Zen 4 allegedly launches in Q3, the 5800X3D needs to launch within the next 2 months or else it just feels like it's launching too close to Zen 4. Furthermore, the price needs to be competitive as well and not some kind of halo product, because it won't be. I still think $500 is too much for a 5800X3D. It really ought to be $449 max, but ideally Zen 3 comes down in price too.
Wouldn't they be able to test the chiplet and cache dies prior to bonding them?It's also a great place to dump CCD stacks that don't qualify for MilanX for any reason.
Anyone know whether TSMC has stated anything about design compatibility with plain N3? According to AnandTech's report in October, they had not commented on it:N3E is a different node from the original N3
If you need to salvage something you go backward.They are cutting density with N3E??? That's a new one.
Is N2 GAA?So looks like Apple will end up skipping N3 in favor of N3E given the Q2 23 ramp, which matches TSMC's ramps for everything else except N3.
We'll have to see if they can get N2 back on Q2 cadence for Apple. It is supposedly 2023 for risk production, but if that's Q4 it won't make mass production in time.
Not officially announced yet but almost certainly is.Is N2 GAA?