Question Speculation: RDNA3 + CDNA2 Architectures Thread

[maddie]

With those clocks, how much higher do we think the custom cards will achieve? Were the rumors of much higher frequencies all wrong?

 

[Panino Manino]

OH NO! Fake frames no AMD.

 

[exquisitechar]

That's pretty awful. The clock speeds are way lower than expected.

999$ MSRP.

WHAT THE ****?

What do you expect? As bad as it is, it wouldn't sell at anything more than that.

 

[Tuna-Fish]

2.4x CUs x 1.5x RT perf/CU = Up to 3.6x RT performance?

No. CUs have twice the compute, so just 1.2x CUs. 1.8x RT perf.

Not great.

 

[DooKey]

AMD simply went for efficiency and maximum profit based on chiplets. I think it shows that CPUs are their focus. Not a bad thing.

 

[Saylick]

No. CUs have twice the compute, so just 1.2x CUs. 1.8x RT perf.

Not great.

If that's the case, they should have said 1.5x per WGP then, not CU.

 

[Tup3x]

No. CUs have twice the compute, so just 1.2x CUs. 1.8x RT perf.

Not great.

In Cyberpunk from 43 FPS to 62 FPS... with FSR. 7900 XTX vs. 6950 XT. Now the pricing is kinda starting to make sense. Not surprised that they haven't showed any comparisons to RTX 4090.

 

[DooKey]

With those clocks, how much higher do we think the custom cards will achieve? Were the rumors of much higher frequencies all wrong?

Did they come for MLiD?

 

[Timorous]

If that's the case, they should have said 1.5x per WGP then, not CU.

N21 is 80CU and N31 is 96CU so 1.2x

1.2x * 1.5x = 1.8x theoretical improvement.

 

[fleshconsumed]

So... not as fast as Ada, but much more reasonable power consumption and much better performance/price ratio. Honestly, I'm good with that.

Really curious what 7800/7700 is going to look like. 6800XT was in a really good position relative to 6900XT, 35% cheaper but only 10% slower, however given that N32 is going to be a separate die 2/3rds of the size of N31 I think it'll be that much slower than 7900. Decisions decisions...

 

[Aikouka]

The Neo G9 announcement was the biggest hit to me as I picked up my Neo G9 just yesterday. I haven't had the chance to open it yet, and for what will likely be a 2xUHD setup (similar to how all current and past G9s are 2xQHD), the upcoming one will likely work better. Albeit, it will also likely cost more than what I had to pay (sale + work discount).

 

[gdansk]

But that's not good for the market and not good for AMD either to "ignore" RT. Which they do according to their own benchmarks.

This is def not as bad as the Vega disaster, but it's not good either. Still disappointing tbh.

Yeah maybe not. But if Nvidia had segmented the market appropriately I wouldn't be looking at AMD. I don't play RT games. Except Quake 2 and that's fine already.

 

[maddie]

Did they come for MLiD?

Most said it. Three 8 pin connectors is almost 40% more power.

 

[poke01]

Very underwhelming launch. If I was in the market for the best raw performance GPU I would go for an RTX card when Nvidia fixes their power connector.

This launch was disappointing.

 

[Hitman928]

I thought AMD would bring a bigger jump in RT. Maybe not match Nvidia, but close the gap a decent amount. It seems they haven't closed the gap here at all. Overall perf/$ looks great compared to the competition, but no competitive improvement in RT is disappointing.

I also fully expected AMD to copy NV's frame interpolation. Even if AMD doesn't believe in it, they need it in the feature list for marketing reasons.

 

[Saylick]

N21 is 80CU and N31 is 96CU so 1.2x

1.2x * 1.5x = 1.8x theoretical improvement.

Oh, you're right... My bad.

 

[AnandThenMan]

AMD's naming is turning into hieroglyphs.

Very underwhelming launch. If I was in the market for the best raw performance GPU I would go for an RTX card when Nvidia fixes their power connector.

This launch was disappointing.

Nvidia's power draw is ludicrous never mind the power connector debacle.

 

[Hitman928]

Seems Radeon encoding is finally getting supported in OBS. AMD AV1 encoder can also do 4K60. I believe Intel's is limited to 4K30 if I'm not mistaken.

 

[tajoh111]

I think everything you wrote here is a big miss.

Looks like I got closest to the actual performance and things were hardly much of a miss. Same with power. Clocks being not much of an increase and performance perhaps a tad below my estimated.

With all the enthusiasm for post hyping things to the next level compared, my post was the most realistic considering the performance per watt claims and the simply common sense.

Did people really think, we were going to get over 3ghz clock, 2.4x shaders without some sort of penalty for gaming performance considering the die size?

The performance could have been seen a mile away simply because of the 1.5x performance per watt.

The fact that no one on this forums saw this and were expecting 2x as a minimum for raster and 2.5 being possible just showed how dyed red this forum is. Anything contrary to this was shutdown like my post.

 

[poke01]

I also fully expected AMD to copy NV's frame interpolation. Even if AMD doesn't believe in it, they need it in the feature list for marketing reasons.

Hmmm. I wonder what the folks who made fun of Nvidia will say now.
Probably that AMD did it now they will herald it as the best innovation ever.



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[maddie]

Looks like I got closest to the actual performance and things were hardly much of a miss. Same with power. Clocks being not much of an increase and performance perhaps a tad below my estimated.

With all the enthusiasm for post hyping things to the next level compared, my post was the most realistic considering the performance per watt claims and the simply common sense.

Did people really think, we were going to get over 3ghz clock, 2.4x shaders without some sort of penalty for gaming performance considering the die size?

The performance could have been seen a mile away simply because of the 1.5x performance per watt.

The fact that no one on this forums saw this and were expecting 2x as a minimum for raster and 2.5 being possible just showed how dyed red this forum is. Anything contrary to this was shutdown like my post.

Who shut down your post?

 

[Karnak]

Nvidia's power draw is ludicrous never mind the power connector debacle.

A 285W 4070 (or whatever it's called) will be faster in RT while consuming less than AMD's 355W 7900XTX. And it'll be cheaper (going with the original $899 price tag). Well..

 

[blckgrffn]

Haha, surprised at the negative reactions. It's about 2/3rds the price and should bring a ton of performance vs nvidias flagship card.

It was gonna take a 10x rt performance uplift or something to say "OK"?

Just keep dragging those goalposts, I suppose.

Keeping it under $1k is a big win, imo.

 

[Hitman928]

Hmmm. I wonder what the folks who made fun of Nvidia will say now.
Probably that AMD did it now they will herald it as the best innovation ever.

I hated it when Nvidia announced it and I hate it now

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Hmmm. I wonder what the folks who made fun of Nvidia will say now.
Probably that AMD did it now they will herald it as the best innovation ever.

Troll somewhere else, seriously.