Speaking of partisan hacks...

Gaard

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CNN Lets 'Crossfire' Host Carlson Go

NEW YORK - CNN said goodbye to pundit Tucker Carlson on Wednesday, and with him likely the "Crossfire" program that has been the granddaddy of high-volume political debate shows on cable television.

CNN will probably fold "Crossfire" into its other programming, perhaps as an occasional segment on the daytime show "Inside Politics," said Jonathan Klein, who was appointed in late November as chief executive of CNN's U.S. network.

Klein on Wednesday told Carlson, one of the four "Crossfire" hosts, that CNN would not be offering him a new contract. Carlson has been talking with MSNBC about a prime-time opening replacing Deborah Norville.

"I would host any kind of show for (MSNBC chief executive) Rick Kaplan," said Carlson, whose Friday night PBS show "Tucker Carlson: Unfiltered" resumes this week.

He said he enjoyed every minute working for CNN, but that he had told executives last April that he wanted to do something different from "Crossfire."

The bow-tied wearing conservative pundit got into a public tussle last fall with comic Jon Stewart, who has been critical of cable political programs that devolve into shoutfests.

"I guess I come down more firmly in the Jon Stewart camp," Klein told The Associated Press.

He said all of the cable networks, including CNN, have overdosed on programming devoted to arguing over issues. Klein said he wants more substantive programming that is still compelling.

"I doubt that when the president sits down with his advisers they scream at him to bring him up to date on all of the issues," he said. "I don't know why we don't treat the audience with the same respect."

"Crossfire" began in 1982 and was once a mainstay of CNN's prime time. Pat Buchanan from the right and Michael Kinsley from the left were two of its most prominent hosts.

But as Fox News Channel perfected the format with popular hosts Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity, "Crossfire" lost favor among CNN executives and was moved to the afternoons in 2002. It averages 447,000 viewers each weekday, down 21 percent from the previous season, according to Nielsen Media Research. Carlson rotates as host with conservative columnist Bob Novak. Paul Begala and James Carville are the left-leaning ringleaders.

Klein said he hoped Novak, Begala and Carville would continue with meaningful commentator roles at CNN.

Carlson had one failed bid at prime time on CNN with "The Spin Room," which was canceled after less than six months in 2001.

He subbed last week for newscaster Aaron Brown as Klein wanted to see him in a different role before making a decision about his future. Klein said his views on wanting to change the tone of political coverage were separate from the decision to keep Carlson.

"His career aspirations and our programming needs just don't synch up," Klein said. "He wants to host his own nighttime show and we don't see that in the cards here. Out of respect for him and his talent, we thought it would be best to let him explore opportunities elsewhere."

An MSNBC spokesman had no comment on CNN's decision.

"We think Tucker is a great journalist and we're exploring our options for a new 9 p.m. show," said MSNBC's Jeremy Gaines.
 

yllus

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Awesome. I really, really didn't like that guy.
 

sandorski

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:thumbsup: Jon Stewart nailed it. Crossfire and other shows like it offer nothing to discussion. They are Jerry Springer does Politics shows where shouting down is considered good arguement. A complete waste of the audienes time.
 

PatboyX

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Originally posted by: sandorski
:thumbsup: Jon Stewart nailed it. Crossfire and other shows like it offer nothing to discussion. They are Jerry Springer does Politics shows where shouting down is considered good arguement. A complete waste of the audienes time.

yup! and i love how smug they all were on crossfire about how much stewart was "uninformed" and "unfunny" after he tore them a new asshole, simply because he disagreed with them in a fundamental way. i know they will all find other work doing pretty much the same thing...but hell, its nice to see that piece of tripe cancelled.
 

Centinel

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Good, now he can move over to the Fox News Channel where he belongs.

Yes, because lord knows you dont want any dissenting opinions in liberal media.

(and Fox is just as bad by the way before you guys go off on the OMG RRR FLL!!!!!!!)

 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Centinel
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Good, now he can move over to the Fox News Channel where he belongs.

Yes, because lord knows you dont want any dissenting opinions in liberal media.

(and Fox is just as bad by the way before you guys go off on the OMG RRR FLL!!!!!!!)

OMG RRR FLL!!!!onetwo~!






what does RRR FLL mean again?
 

Centinel

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I dunno. I just see it thrown around alot by the rabid lefties at the rabid righties.
 

bozack

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seems like Carlson is getting exactly what he wants...good for him.

Stewart is a moron, he should stick with comedy...but even at that I rarely find him funny, whats even worse were his few movie cameos....
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: sandorski
:thumbsup: Jon Stewart nailed it. Crossfire and other shows like it offer nothing to discussion. They are Jerry Springer does Politics shows where shouting down is considered good arguement. A complete waste of the audienes time.
Exactly. Just look at the rabid likes of Hannity, Beck, Medved, etc. They seek to inflame hostility in the name of ratings and they call it news or news-commentary.

You want news commentary? Check out the point of view segments on your local news channels, if they still have them. There's only one station here that still does it.
 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy
Originally posted by: Centinel
I dunno. I just see it thrown around alot by the rabid lefties at the rabid righties.

The only person I've ever seen use it is dmcowen
I asked mcowen:
Takes the place of the "N" word (Neocons)

Religious Radical Right (The supposed Moral Christians and those jumping on the bandwagon)

Fearless Liar Lemmings (Those that would jump off a Bridge because Bush says so)
 

judasmachine

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Good, now he can move over to the Fox News Channel where he belongs.



That's what I was thinking too. He'll always have a job with Faux News.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: bozack
seems like Carlson is getting exactly what he wants...good for him.

Stewart is a moron, he should stick with comedy...but even at that I rarely find him funny, whats even worse were his few movie cameos....

Stewaart was right on the money.
 

Tommunist

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Originally posted by: bozack
seems like Carlson is getting exactly what he wants...good for him.

Stewart is a moron, he should stick with comedy...but even at that I rarely find him funny, whats even worse were his few movie cameos....

you may think that but he sure showed those beyotches on crossfire what was up :)

I'd wager that Jon Stewart is a lot smarter than most of the people around here ;)
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Tommunist
Originally posted by: bozack
seems like Carlson is getting exactly what he wants...good for him.

Stewart is a moron, he should stick with comedy...but even at that I rarely find him funny, whats even worse were his few movie cameos....

you may think that but he sure showed those beyotches on crossfire what was up :)

I'd wager that Jon Stewart is a lot smarter than most of the people around here ;)

Jon Stewart is extremely bright, he brings news to us that noone else can. The other thing is that if you really listen to Stewart, his opinions are right on the money. Hes great
 

Tommunist

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Tommunist
Originally posted by: bozack
seems like Carlson is getting exactly what he wants...good for him.

Stewart is a moron, he should stick with comedy...but even at that I rarely find him funny, whats even worse were his few movie cameos....

you may think that but he sure showed those beyotches on crossfire what was up :)

I'd wager that Jon Stewart is a lot smarter than most of the people around here ;)

Jon Stewart is extremely bright, he brings news to us that noone else can. The other thing is that if you really listen to Stewart, his opinions are right on the money. Hes great

As one might suspect - I too agree with a lot of the points he makes and given the situation I think he is doing a good job of practicing reasonable vs partisian thinking. It's nice to see.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Bozak - why do you feel Stewart is a moron?
Because Stewart speaks eloquently and cuts through the BS people like Bozack surround themselves in and support ardently.