spamhaus.org is broke

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TechBoyJK

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It works in Firefox because it seems firefox will prefix unresolving url's with www. in attempt to make it work.

Not in IE.

So when I need to go to spamhaus.org, go to my browser and type "spamhaus.org" it just returns a 404 error

If you type in www.spamhaus.org, it works fine.

I emailed them to let them know dns was broken or their webserver wasn't configured correctly.

I was emailed the following response (which is flagged as spam by our spam filter btw lolz)

Hello,

We have many different sites ending in *.spamhaus.org so we do not
use 'spamhaus.org' as a web site address, we only use www.spamhaus.org.

Regards,

Michelangelo Fortesi
The Spamhaus Project
Geneva Switzerland
http://www.spamhaus.org
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That seems stupid to me. They could at least go to their site, or an index. Why just leave it blank? I've been in IT and hosting for years and I have never seen this. In my own experience, I just typed 'spamhaus.org' and it didn't work so I thought the site was down.
 
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TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: DrawninwarD
spamhaus --> CTRL+Shift+Enter

Only works for Firefox I think.
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that's cool, but i guess my rant is just on basic dns configurations that are common practice. why have your root domain not go to anything?
 
nobody554

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Originally posted by: CrazyLazy
Them not redirecting spamhaus.org to www.spamhaus.org is dumb in terms of usability and SEO, but there really isn't much you can do about it.
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This.

Granted, it is kinda dumb on their part if they're looking for traffic and people to use their service, but if that's what they want to do. Let 'em.
 
mugs

mugs

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: mugs
You work in IT and you describe that as "broken"? :confused:
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If McDonalds.com didn't go to anything, wouldn't you consider it broke?
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Shouldn't it be clear from my post that I would not? :confused:
 
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TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: mugs
You work in IT and you describe that as "broken"? :confused:
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If McDonalds.com didn't go to anything, wouldn't you consider it broke?
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Shouldn't it be clear from my post that I would not? :confused:
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well google agrees with me.

if you use Chrome, and type in 'spamhaus.org' it replies with

"Oops! This link appears broken." and says you might want to try a google search or www.spamhaus.org

 
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Crono

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Most companies and organizations have realized over the years that it's beneficial to have both www and direct lead to their site. Maybe they're jsut a bit slow. You let them know your opinion, so hopefully they'll do something about it.
 
mugs

mugs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
well google agrees with me.

if you use Chrome, and type in 'spamhaus.org' it replies with

"Oops! This link appears broken." and says you might want to try a google search or www.spamhaus.org
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Google wishes you wouldn't use their words out of context. That says the link is broken, that is the link (or URL) does not lead to a valid web page. They're not editorializing about spamhaus's DNS configuration decisions.

There is nothing improper about the way they have their hostnames configured. You obviously don't like it, but that doesn't mean it's broken.
 
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TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
well google agrees with me.

if you use Chrome, and type in 'spamhaus.org' it replies with

"Oops! This link appears broken." and says you might want to try a google search or www.spamhaus.org
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Google wishes you wouldn't use their words out of context. That says the link is broken, that is the link (or URL) does not lead to a valid web page. They're not editorializing about spamhaus's DNS configuration decisions.

There is nothing improper about the way they have their hostnames configured. You obviously don't like it, but that doesn't mean it's broken.
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You're right in the sense that if their business policy is to leave the A record blank for the root domain, then that's how it is intentionally configured, therefore not "broken".

But from a useability perspective, it's broken.
 
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CrazyLazy

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
But from a useability perspective, it's broken.
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The user is broken. PEBKAC.
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You guys can debate the definition of "broken" until the end of time.

The point is it would take the site maybe 5 minutes to write a redirect, and doing so would significantly help usability, and therefore traffic. Now if they don't want to do that it's up to them, they are obviously aware of the lack of redirect given their email response. Now you can choose not to go to their site, type the www, or fix it on your end so you don't have to type it. For me it's the kind of thing I would consider bad practice, but not something that would prevent me from going to the site.
 
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randay

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
But from a useability perspective, it's broken.
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The user is broken. PEBKAC.
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Not really.

If you typed mcdonalds.com and it returned a 404, what would you think?
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i would think i forgot the www., palmface, then go find out what i'm going to order from the dollar menu.
 
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