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Spaced based solar panels

Am I the only person who can't stop thinking about them every time I hear about "peak oil" and watch movies like "the end of suburbia"?

With facilities like this, couldn't we have unlimmited power?

Unlimmited power would then theoretically mean no limit to the amount of hydrogen we can produce, which would eliminated many of the primary needs for petrolium... except for plastics and fertilizers, right?

It pisses me off that NASA's plans for a prototype were shelved with the "mission to mars" 🙁
 
What's wrong with a mission to mars? Humans need to expand to other planets to insure the survival of the species in case of an extinction event.
 
The Wikipedia article explains the problems with it. I don't really understand what the question is.

It will happen when it's economically feasable.
 
Originally posted by: Eli
The Wikipedia article explains the problems with it. I don't really understand what the question is.

It will happen when it's economically feasable.

I think its unusually well written to say the least.
 
Originally posted by: Eli
The Wikipedia article explains the problems with it. I don't really understand what the question is.

It will happen when it's economically feasable.

one slip up and a whole continent gets microwaved?! :Q ((sp) i know, i don't care)
 
well, according to sim city 2000, theres a small chance it could miss its target, and blow up stuff, but i dont think that ever happened in a game. so i declare it safe.
 
I seem to recall reading too that there are concerns over the long-term effects of the microwave radiation passing through the upper atmosphere, in that it might cause unusual heating.
Another problem is the slow "erosion" of the satellite by micrometeoroids and orbital debris. Which of course adds to overall costs to to expenses of building replacement parts and sending them into orbit.

Right now, I think it'd just be easier to use solar panels here on Earth. No concerns about sending the power long distances, no problems with lofting huge amounts of materials into orbit, no problems with a powerful microwave beam piercing through the atmosphere, minimal maintenance costs, etc etc.


The Humans to Mars thing - that has other issues. Namely, Martian dust and cosmic radiation. Lunar dust was a bad enough problem. Martian dust is also mildly corrosive, and it could be toxic. And then there's cosmic (and solar) radiation. There are currently no feasible artificial methods of stopping high energy cosmic rays. Scientific American discussed this. There are ideas for extremely powerful EM fields to protect a ship's inhabitants, but these fields themselves could cause health problems. That, and they'd require currently nonexistant power supplies to generate. The other option - a spherical ship with a shielding layer of water. I don't remember how thick it needed to be, a meter maybe? But it would give the spacecraft a HUGE amount of mass, thus making it insanely expensive to launch. Then there'd be the matter of accelerating and decelerating that mass to get it to Mars and back.
So yes we can get humans to Mars. Alive? Probably. Healthy? Not likely. Get them home alive? Less likely. Have them survive after getting home - almost no chance. Cellular and DNA damage from the radiation environment of space would be too severe to correct.
Robots are the way to go for now. They can be folded up into a tiny space, they don't need to eat or excrete anything during the voyage, and they don't whine and complain if you literally work them to death. They also don't have any strong desire to return home.
 
Originally posted by: Jeff7
I seem to recall reading too that there are concerns over the long-term effects of the microwave radiation passing through the upper atmosphere, in that it might cause unusual heating.
Another problem is the slow "erosion" of the satellite by micrometeoroids and orbital debris. Which of course adds to overall costs to to expenses of building replacement parts and sending them into orbit.
Right now, I think it'd just be easier to use solar panels here on Earth. No concerns about sending the power long distances, no problems with lofting huge amounts of materials into orbit, no problems with a powerful microwave beam piercing through the atmosphere, minimal maintenance costs, etc etc.


The Humans to Mars thing - that has other issues. Namely, Martian dust and cosmic radiation. Lunar dust was a bad enough problem. Martian dust is also mildly corrosive, and it could be toxic. And then there's cosmic (and solar) radiation. There are currently no feasible artificial methods of stopping high energy cosmic rays. Scientific American discussed this. There are ideas for extremely powerful EM fields to protect a ship's inhabitants, but these fields themselves could cause health problems. That, and they'd require currently nonexistant power supplies to generate. The other option - a spherical ship with a shielding layer of water. I don't remember how thick it needed to be, a meter maybe? But it would give the spacecraft a HUGE amount of mass, thus making it insanely expensive to launch. Then there'd be the matter of accelerating and decelerating that mass to get it to Mars and back.
So yes we can get humans to Mars. Alive? Probably. Healthy? Not likely. Get them home alive? Less likely. Have them survive after getting home - almost no chance. Cellular and DNA damage from the radiation environment of space would be too severe to correct.
Robots are the way to go for now. They can be folded up into a tiny space, they don't need to eat or excrete anything during the voyage, and they don't whine and complain if you literally work them to death. They also don't have any strong desire to return home.

Thats why we need to invent shields first! 😛
 
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