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Space Station Computer Crashes - Russian Design..

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HOUSTON - Russian computers that control the international space station's orientation and supply of oxygen and water have failed, potentially extending the space shuttle's mission - or cutting it short.

Russian engineers aren't sure why the computers stopped working. A failure of this type has never occurred before on the space station.

The station is operated primarily by the Russian and U.S. space agencies, with contributions from the Canadian, European and Japanese space agencies.

"We have plenty of resources, so we have plenty of time to sort this out," said Mike Suffredini, NASA manager of the space station program.

But the computer failure could extend space shuttle Atlantis' mission by at least a day and, in a worst-case scenario, force the space station's three crew members to return to Earth early if the computers aren't fixed.

Atlantis' mission had already been extended from 11 to 13 days so that astronauts can go on a spacewalk to repair a thermal blanket covering an engine pod that peeled up during launch.

Suffredini said he expected the problem to be fixed in the next couple of days. In a worst-case scenario, if at least one of the computers wasn't operating after the shuttle left, the space station's three crew members could return to Earth, he said.

http://www.jacksonville.com/ap...061407/D8POH3I00.shtml
 

sao123

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May 27, 2002
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Billion dollar unfinished space station crashes to earth debris path 10x that of the shuttle.
 

sao123

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I wonder if this is related to the false fire alarm they got on the space station also...
 

dug777

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If you want to get all 'nationalistic' about it, how many men have the Russians lost in their space program?

We all know what NASA stands for: Need Another Seven Astronauts ;)
 

MmmSkyscraper

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Originally posted by: dug777
If you want to get all 'nationalistic' about it, how many men have the Russians lost in their space program?

From Wiki:

Training to become an astronaut and spaceflight operations can be dangerous. To date, nineteen people have been killed on five spaceflight missions, and at least ten more have been killed in ground-based training accidents. The five spaceflights which resulted in astronaut deaths are:

* 1967 April 24 - Vladimir Komarov died during the landing of Soyuz 1 when the capsule's parachute failed to open properly.

* 1967 November 15 - U.S. Air Force test pilot Major Michael J. Adams was killed when his X-15-3 research aircraft began to spin on re-entry and descent and disintegrated near Randsburg, California. Maj. Adams was posthumously awarded astronaut wings for his last flight in the X-15-3, which had attained an altitude of 266,000 feet (81.1 km).

* 1971 June 30 - The crew of Soyuz 11, Georgi Dobrovolski, Viktor Patsayev and Vladislav Volkov, suffocated after undocking from space station Salyut 1. A valve on their spacecraft had accidentally opened when the service module separated, letting their air leak out into space.

* 1986 January 28 - The Space Shuttle Challenger disaster. The Space Shuttle Challenger was destroyed 73 seconds after launch on STS-51-L with the loss of all seven crew members: Greg Jarvis, Christa McAuliffe, Ronald McNair, Ellison Onizuka, Judith Resnik, Michael J. Smith, and Dick Scobee.

* 2003 February 1 - The Space Shuttle Columbia disaster. During the STS-107 mission, Space Shuttle Columbia broke apart while re-entering the Earth's atmosphere. Damage to the shuttle's thermal protection system (TPS) led to structural failure in the left wing, killing all seven crew members: Rick D. Husband, William McCool, Michael P. Anderson, David M. Brown, Kalpana Chawla, Laurel B. Clark, and Ilan Ramon.

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dug777

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Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
Originally posted by: dug777
If you want to get all 'nationalistic' about it, how many men have the Russians lost in their space program?

From Wiki:

Training to become an astronaut and spaceflight operations can be dangerous. To date, nineteen people have been killed on five spaceflight missions, and at least ten more have been killed in ground-based training accidents. The five spaceflights which resulted in astronaut deaths are:

* 1967 April 24 - Vladimir Komarov died during the landing of Soyuz 1 when the capsule's parachute failed to open properly.

* 1967 November 15 - U.S. Air Force test pilot Major Michael J. Adams was killed when his X-15-3 research aircraft began to spin on re-entry and descent and disintegrated near Randsburg, California. Maj. Adams was posthumously awarded astronaut wings for his last flight in the X-15-3, which had attained an altitude of 266,000 feet (81.1 km).

* 1971 June 30 - The crew of Soyuz 11, Georgi Dobrovolski, Viktor Patsayev and Vladislav Volkov, suffocated after undocking from space station Salyut 1. A valve on their spacecraft had accidentally opened when the service module separated, letting their air leak out into space.

* 1986 January 28 - The Space Shuttle Challenger disaster. The Space Shuttle Challenger was destroyed 73 seconds after launch on STS-51-L with the loss of all seven crew members: Greg Jarvis, Christa McAuliffe, Ronald McNair, Ellison Onizuka, Judith Resnik, Michael J. Smith, and Dick Scobee.

* 2003 February 1 - The Space Shuttle Columbia disaster. During the STS-107 mission, Space Shuttle Columbia broke apart while re-entering the Earth's atmosphere. Damage to the shuttle's thermal protection system (TPS) led to structural failure in the left wing, killing all seven crew members: Rick D. Husband, William McCool, Michael P. Anderson, David M. Brown, Kalpana Chawla, Laurel B. Clark, and Ilan Ramon.

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Sad, but interesting, i never knew about those Russian deaths...

*goes to wiki*
 

K1052

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For the love of god just nudge this money sucking lemon into a reentry path over the Pacific ocean and be done with it.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
Originally posted by: dug777
If you want to get all 'nationalistic' about it, how many men have the Russians lost in their space program?

From Wiki:

Training to become an astronaut and spaceflight operations can be dangerous. To date, nineteen people have been killed on five spaceflight missions, and at least ten more have been killed in ground-based training accidents. The five spaceflights which resulted in astronaut deaths are:

* 1967 April 24 - Vladimir Komarov died during the landing of Soyuz 1 when the capsule's parachute failed to open properly.

* 1967 November 15 - U.S. Air Force test pilot Major Michael J. Adams was killed when his X-15-3 research aircraft began to spin on re-entry and descent and disintegrated near Randsburg, California. Maj. Adams was posthumously awarded astronaut wings for his last flight in the X-15-3, which had attained an altitude of 266,000 feet (81.1 km).

* 1971 June 30 - The crew of Soyuz 11, Georgi Dobrovolski, Viktor Patsayev and Vladislav Volkov, suffocated after undocking from space station Salyut 1. A valve on their spacecraft had accidentally opened when the service module separated, letting their air leak out into space.

* 1986 January 28 - The Space Shuttle Challenger disaster. The Space Shuttle Challenger was destroyed 73 seconds after launch on STS-51-L with the loss of all seven crew members: Greg Jarvis, Christa McAuliffe, Ronald McNair, Ellison Onizuka, Judith Resnik, Michael J. Smith, and Dick Scobee.

* 2003 February 1 - The Space Shuttle Columbia disaster. During the STS-107 mission, Space Shuttle Columbia broke apart while re-entering the Earth's atmosphere. Damage to the shuttle's thermal protection system (TPS) led to structural failure in the left wing, killing all seven crew members: Rick D. Husband, William McCool, Michael P. Anderson, David M. Brown, Kalpana Chawla, Laurel B. Clark, and Ilan Ramon.

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the russians have lost far more. their program was always carried out in secret after all. success reported, failure hidden.

for instance this was a competing engine design for their space rocket program
" What was the worst disaster in the history of space travel?
- question from Marcus

If you are referring to manned space exploration, the two tragedies that resulted in the greatest loss of life were the destruction of the American space shuttles Challenger and Columbia. Each accident claimed the lives of seven astronauts.

However, another event that occurred in the Soviet Union in 1960 is generally recognized as the single greatest disaster in the history of rocketry. The event was not directly related to manned space flight, but to the development of an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM). In the early days of space flight, both the US and Soviet space programs were very much intertwined with the development of ICBMs. These vehicles were designed to launch nuclear warheads over great distances, leaving no part of the world safe from the threat of nuclear destruction. However, the technologies pioneered for these weapons of war served a secondary purpose of providing the first generation of rockets for space exploration. .....
At about 6:45 PM, with some 250 personnel and visitors crowded around the launch pad, the second stage rocket engine of the R-16 ignited. The exhaust immediately ripped through the fuel tank in the first stage, creating a massive explosion that sprayed acidic chemicals across the launch complex. The luckiest were those who were instantly incinerated in the ensuing fireball that engulfed the rocket. Others died more slowly as they were burned while trying to escape through the raging inferno. Still more were able to evacuate the immediate vicinity only to be suffocated by the poisonous gases created by the burning propellants......
However, the true casualty list has always remained a mystery. More recent investigations have estimated the death toll as high as 200. The best estimate, however, appears to be around 122 fatalities. This value includes 74 killed in the blast and 48 who died over subsequent weeks from injuries due to burns or exposure to toxic chemicals. Of those killed, 84 were military officers or enlisted technicians while 38 were civilian engineers......." http://www.aerospaceweb.org/qu...spacecraft/q0179.shtml

"June 26, 1973 Plesetsk, Russia 9 Launch explosion
March 18, 1980 Plesetsk, Russia 48 Launch explosion"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...nd_Civilian_fatalities
 

0roo0roo

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their interesting space rocket
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/qu...spacecraft/q0196.shtml
"However, the Soviets were forced to abandon their lunar program following a string of failures from the mid-1960s to early 1970s. The Soviets then attempted to conceal their lack of success by claiming that no such program had ever existed in the first place."
funny how that communist stuff works lol:)
 

JC86

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Originally posted by: AmigaMan
American Components... Russian Components... All made in Taiwan!

I was thinking the exact same thing. "Let me show you how we do it on the Russian Space Station!."
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: K1052
For the love of god just nudge this money sucking lemon into a reentry path over the Pacific ocean and be done with it.

As long as this time it hits the damn Taco Bell "free taco" raft.
 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: dug777
If you want to get all 'nationalistic' about it, how many men have the Russians lost in their space program?

We all know what NASA stands for: Need Another Seven Astronauts ;)

That's of extremely bad taste.


And, LOL at the Armageddon quotes.
 

jagec

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Atlantis' mission had already been extended from 11 to 13 days so that astronauts can go on a spacewalk to repair a thermal blanket covering an engine pod that peeled up during launch.
Those things are falling apart...

Originally posted by: antillean
Time to upgrade to Core 2 Duo, 4gb, DX10 graphics, and Vista.

Vista would be a downgrade from the 70's era command-line stuff they're probably using.
 

sygyzy

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What's with the topic? Are you mocking Russia? When's the last time you've heard of a Russian system crashing? When's the last time you've heard of an American (Windows) one crashing? Heck, there are even BSOD's on the jumbotrons in Time Square.