Space heater?

Greyd

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Any recommendations for a space heater in a non-residential setting. Kind of like a store that has a drive through window?

-preferably cheap
-preferably something that runs cheaply
-nice and hot.

Thanks
 

Canai

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If it's not a large space, check out oil heaters. They look like radiators and plug in to an outlet.
 

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Originally posted by: Greyd

-preferably something that runs cheaply
-nice and hot.

You can't have both of those without going to natural gas or propane.
Electric will always be expensive to use for heat.
 

Scarpozzi

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These are really good. Electric, oil-filled radiators are safe because they're sealed and the element is in the radiator. You can get a small fan to circulate the heat if you are trying to heat a larger area, but they really warm a decent sized room without one. I bought one that was Kenwood brand with a digital timer and thermostat (programable). Shop around for the features you want.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn...454-EW6507L&lpage=none

Edit: btw...the other thing I would consider is a small ceramic heater. The only problem with these is that most don't have enough fan to make up for lost heat when the window is opened. That's why I was suggesting something that stays warm. The radiator will heat the oil, which heats the metal fins...which will then heat the air. Opening a window won't cool the oil or the metal and there will be plenty of heat still coming from the unit.
 

JEDI

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Originally posted by: Greyd
Any recommendations for a space heater in a non-residential setting. Kind of like a store that has a drive through window?

-preferably cheap
-preferably something that runs cheaply
-nice and hot.

Thanks

walmart 1500 watt heater $9.99


Originally posted by: CraKaJaX
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600,000 BTU output per Hour :Q

what space station r u heating up?
 

Greyd

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Originally posted by: ironwing
Is the whole place cold are just the area near the open window?

whole place is cold. But only need warming right by the window. So something that provide strong and directed heat.
 

BigJ

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Radiator type heaters are an absolute waste for your situation. They have a longer startup time and heat whole areas, not small confined spaces. In a setting like a drive through window, it's going to take even longer for them to continue to provide heat.

Just get one of the small rectangular space heaters that you'd put under the cash drawer on the floor. The receptacles throughout the store should be rated at 20A (at least that's how the fast food places here are wired) so you should have no problem using the higher settings on them.

One thing they won't be is cheap. They're going to be using 900w-1500w.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Greyd
which is cheaper to run? Kerosene, propane or electric?

If you're in a business environment, you better make damn sure on what OSHA has to say about this situation.
 

Greyd

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Greyd
which is cheaper to run? Kerosene, propane or electric?

If you're in a business environment, you better make damn sure on what OSHA has to say about this situation.

privately owned small business ;)
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Greyd
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Greyd
which is cheaper to run? Kerosene, propane or electric?

If you're in a business environment, you better make damn sure on what OSHA has to say about this situation.

privately owned small business ;)

Business? ::cough:: What business?
 

Greyd

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Greyd
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: Greyd
which is cheaper to run? Kerosene, propane or electric?

If you're in a business environment, you better make damn sure on what OSHA has to say about this situation.

privately owned small business ;)

Business? ::cough:: What business?

hahaha its my parents store. I'm helping out here temporarily. They have a drive through window with one of those ceramic, oscillating heaters by it. 1500 w. It just don't cut it, I'm freezing my butt off.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: Greyd
hahaha its my parents store. I'm helping out here temporarily. They have a drive through window with one of those ceramic, oscillating heaters by it. 1500 w. It just don't cut it, I'm freezing my butt off.
And just so you know, it won't make a difference buying a 1500W convection heater vs 1500W oil-filled heater vs 1500W radiant heater. Converting electricity to heat is inherently a very efficient process, it's just expensive. So regardless of the kind of heater you get, you'll still wind up pumping 1500W into the room.

If you get anything that burns a fuel though, make sure you've got a carbon monoxide detector too.
 

ultimatebob

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I've found that heater fans work better than oil filled electric heaters in larger areas. The oil heaters only seem to heat an area about 4 feet around the heater itself, while you can set up a heater fan in the corner of the room and blow warm air to wherever you're sitting.
 

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Do you want instant heat for comfort? Choose a radiant heater.
Do you want to heat the air and time to satisfy is secondary? Choose a convection based heater.

If the window is causing an issue to people near the window a radiant heater mounted on the ceiling firing down to the floor works well. These can be natural gas, propane fired or electric. Electric is the cleanest as it does not require combustion (make up) air and a vent but operation cost can be significant depending on your utility rates.
 

RossMAN

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Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
These are really good. Electric, oil-filled radiators are safe because they're sealed and the element is in the radiator. You can get a small fan to circulate the heat if you are trying to heat a larger area, but they really warm a decent sized room without one. I bought one that was Kenwood brand with a digital timer and thermostat (programable). Shop around for the features you want.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn...454-EW6507L&lpage=none

Edit: btw...the other thing I would consider is a small ceramic heater. The only problem with these is that most don't have enough fan to make up for lost heat when the window is opened. That's why I was suggesting something that stays warm. The radiator will heat the oil, which heats the metal fins...which will then heat the air. Opening a window won't cool the oil or the metal and there will be plenty of heat still coming from the unit.

Thank you for the information, between these two models which would you buy and why?

http://www.amazon.com/review/product/B000TGDGLU/

http://www.amazon.com/review/product/B000A33B1C/
 

dr150

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Get a Lasko heater sold at Target (<~$50) which has the best price on it. They have a fan, auto temp gauge, hi/low setting, can swivel and has a remote.

They can heat up a medium sized room pretty darn quick! I have one and my brother has one. They work great and are reliable. My brother's has been going for over 5 years and he uses it every day during winter.

The fan in it is the key!! It blows hot air all over the room.

Try it out....you can always return it to Target (90 day policy?).
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.........of course, if you're working near a window, get a warm merino wool long sleeve base layer, like what experienced hikers use (way better than polypro crap, unless it's a $50 Under Armour Mock Coldgear Compression Top which pro athletes and hunters use--it acts like a second skin--it's a cozy fit). However, NOTHING beats nature! Merino keeps you warm but not too warm (unlike the plastic stuff which can overheat you or make you too cold). Here's a great value place that make super high quality 18.5 micron sofffft Australian merino: http://minus33.com/minus33ls.htm
 

Scarpozzi

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Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
These are really good. Electric, oil-filled radiators are safe because they're sealed and the element is in the radiator. You can get a small fan to circulate the heat if you are trying to heat a larger area, but they really warm a decent sized room without one. I bought one that was Kenwood brand with a digital timer and thermostat (programable). Shop around for the features you want.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn...454-EW6507L&lpage=none

Edit: btw...the other thing I would consider is a small ceramic heater. The only problem with these is that most don't have enough fan to make up for lost heat when the window is opened. That's why I was suggesting something that stays warm. The radiator will heat the oil, which heats the metal fins...which will then heat the air. Opening a window won't cool the oil or the metal and there will be plenty of heat still coming from the unit.

Thank you for the information, between these two models which would you buy and why?

http://www.amazon.com/review/product/B000TGDGLU/

http://www.amazon.com/review/product/B000A33B1C/
They're both made by the same company. Chances are, the controls are the only difference. When it comes to being energy effficient, they both have 3 wattages they operate on. If you can find one with a digital thermostat, you'll have more control because you'll have a better idea of what temp causes it to kick on. The knobs work just as good...you just can't see the exact temp.

This is basically the model I have.
http://www.amazon.com/KENWOOD-...r-6708EP/dp/B000653KLU