SOYO TISU BIOS Refuses to Recognize 1.2Ghz Tualatin **UPDATED**

[apoppin]

OK, I finally got rid of my BX board with PL adapter. (The new PL adapter is nice with voltage adjustments - I just got my new 1.2Ghz Tually Celeron from a PowerLeap RMA to 1.5Ghz at stock voltage on the BX board).

My new Soyo MB cost only $40 and is supposed to support the 1.2Ghz Tualatin Celeron. However, it "sees" my CPU as a 350Mhz PIII (100FSB x 3.5).

I have cleared the CMOS several times (the date and time was already set on the MB). Doesn't matter. I can "save" to CMOS but it always reverts to a 350Mhz P3. 🙁
In desperation, I put my old PIII 600e in and voila - no problem - Instant recognition (I can even O/C it).

What Gives? What am I missing (besides my brains)?

 

[apoppin]

AFAIK, the 1.2 Ghz Celeron is 100FSB x 12 multiplier. Set to "auto" or "manual" and "saved to CMOS" still gives me a 350Mhz P3 (100x3.5).

What 'gives'?

I know it has been 4 years since I built my last system . . . however, everything seems to be working fine and I am installing Win98 on my 600e without a hitch (to save time). The BIOS I have with my Soyo TISU is "supposed" to support the 1.2Ghz Tualatin Celeron.

🙁

Help!

 

[apoppin]

Looking at the Soyo website it says NO SUPPORT for the Tualatin Celeron even though it is advertised as such.

WTH?

😕

 

[bigboxes]

At first glance, I thought your title was in spanish. Hahaha!

Anyways, that sucks about Soyo lack of support. Can you return the mb? I would. If you bought it because they originally said it would work with that cpu, then take it back and get the board you want that will support the chip you want to use. Then write Soyo a nasty letter. Let 'em know what a good customer you have been.

~box

 

[apoppin]

I am starting to feel really really stupid now.

I thought I had done my research. Vadatajs from the O/C'ing forum claims to have one working.

The SOYO MB Box says: "Support FC-PGA Pentium III, Celeron and FC-PGA2 Tualatin". I ASSUMED the Tualatin Celeron would also be supported.


From the INCA-City website:

PROCESSOR Support Intel FC-PGA 2 Tualatin Processor Support Intel FC-PGA Pentium&trade III and Celeron&trade Processors

Nothing (but the damn Soyo website) says the Tualatin Celeron is NOT supported. I feel led along the "garden path". I have also PM'd Vadatajs to see how he got his working.


If it doesn't work, I will send it back - however, I lose my original Inca-City $11 shipping costs, 15% restocking - $6 and have to pay return shipping. 🙁


Am I screwed, or does anyone KNOW about this Soyo MB?

EDIT: Muchas Gracias! Yes, the topic title does look pretty weird. 🙂

 

[apoppin]

NE 1 know about this Mother#^@&ing Board?

 

[Insane3D]

There just aren't a lot of people using the Tualatin Celerons right now on this board, and those who are most likely are using the standard Abit/Asus offerings. I am not familiar with these boards, but I will try to help. First of all, I understand the bios is reading the celly as a 350mhz, but I wonder if it is merely cosmetic. I'm wondering if since the board doesn't officially support the new celerons, but it does support the P3 variants, that it may be solely displaying the speed incorrectly. It might be trying to read the microcode from the CPU, and it's getting confused because the bios doesn't support that CPU, so it throwing that weird 350mhz speed up on the screen. There is the possibility that the CPU is actually running the correct speed though. Try this..

I'm assuming that the board works with the CPU since you are getting a post screen, so boot into windows with the Celeron installed. Download a CPU ID utility like WCPUID, and see what it says. I have a feeling you may find it is actually running the correct speed. The multipliers on Intel CPU's are non-modifiable, so I'm assuming that the board can't possibly be running this speed since a change from the default 12 multiplier would be needed for that to happen.

Give it a try..🙂

My guess is it's a simple matter of the bios not reading the 12 multiplier, and displaying it incorrectly as 3.5..🙂

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Insane3D
There just aren't a lot of people using the Tualatin Celerons right now on this board, and those who are most likely are using the standard Abit/Asus offerings. I am not familiar with these boards, but I will try to help. First of all, I understand the bios is reading the celly as a 350mhz, but I wonder if it is merely cosmetic. I'm wondering if since the board doesn't officially support the new celerons, but it does support the P3 variants, that it may be solely displaying the speed incorrectly. It might be trying to read the microcode from the CPU, and it's getting confused because the bios doesn't support that CPU, so it throwing that weird 350mhz speed up on the screen. There is the possibility that the CPU is actually running the correct speed though. Try this..

I'm assuming that the board works with the CPU since you are getting a post screen, so boot into windows with the Celeron installed. Download a CPU ID utility like WCPUID, and see what it says. I have a feeling you may find it is actually running the correct speed. The multipliers on Intel CPU's are non-modifiable, so I'm assuming that the board can't possibly be running this speed since a change from the default 12 multiplier would be needed for that to happen.

Give it a try..🙂

My guess is it's a simple matter of the bios not reading the 12 multiplier, and displaying it incorrectly as 3.5..🙂

I'll be darned. 😱

Thanks for explaining this so even I could figure it out. I d/led Intel's Frequency ID Utility and it correctly reports my CPU at default at 1.2 Ghz.

Best of all, I O/C'd it - looks like 126FSB is the highest I can reach with a 'reasonable' overvoltage - 1.6v (actually the Soyo undervolts - it's more like 1.575v) - 1.51Ghz.

Looks like I can put off upgrading a little longer. 🙂

Thanks!

EDIT: A 25% performance increase for less than $50 is a good deal. Thumbs up on the (cheapo) Soyo MB.