Soviet Monument gets "Makeover"

[guyver01]

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/06/17/army-monument-gets-superhero-makeover

painted by an unknown artist, in Sofia June 17, 2011

The figures have been painted to resemble U.S. comic book heroes and characters from popular culture

The inscription below them reads: “Moving with the times”.

 

[Blitzvogel]

I'm not a communist, but I'm a bit incredibly irked seeing a monument for dead men who actually fought something (whether you valued that thing they fought for or not) be degraded down to a bunch of pop culture icons. Satire or not, it's incredibly disrespectful. At least they stood for something other than overly consumerist culture and the love to revel in fictional characters.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Polonium poisoning plz.

I'm not a communist, but I'm a bit incredibly irked seeing a monument for dead men who actually fought something be degraded down to a bunch of pop culture icons. Satire or not, it's incredibly disrespectful.

What if they were SS forces fighting a Jewish insurrection?

 

[Mike Gayner]

What if they were SS forces fighting a Jewish insurrection?

They're clearly in WWII uniforms. Or are you one of the majority of Americans that believe that Russia and America were enemies in WWII?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

They're clearly in WWII uniforms. Or are you one of the majority of Americans that believe that Russia and America were enemies in WWII?

I don't know how you interpreted my rhetorical question as stating that.

 

[lxskllr]

I don't know how you interpreted my rhetorical question as stating that.

The dumb ass can't think, obviously ;^)

 

[Blitzvogel]

Polonium poisoning plz.



What if they were SS forces fighting a Jewish insurrection?

It's a Soviet era monument. I highly doubt a Soviet era monument would be built to honor Bulgarians in the SS, when Nazis hated Communists, and Communists of course hated the shit out of Nazis. Even still, we could argue merits of "fighting for something".

 

[HamburgerBoy]

It's a Soviet era monument. I highly doubt a Soviet era monument would be built to honor Bulgarians in the SS, when Nazis hated Communists, and Communists of course hated the shit out of Nazis. Even still, we could argue merits of "fighting for something".

Yes, of course. I was arguing that the Soviets would build monuments to glorify Nazi Germany. The point of my post was not to "argue merits of "fighting for something". Not at all.

 

[Blitzvogel]

Yes, of course. I was arguing that the Soviets would build monuments to glorify Nazi Germany.

Why would they do that?

 

[Perknose]

Yes, of course. I was arguing that the Soviets would build monuments to glorify Nazi Germany.

The Soviets hated the Germans worse than we did, and with good reason. Did you really not know this?

 

[guyver01]

The Soviets hated the Germans worse than we did, and with good reason. Did you really not know this?

Am i really the only one who could sense the sarcasm in Hammy's posts?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

An ethics professor is discussing with her students the extent to which conviction to beliefs should be praised. John states his opinion that fighting for ones belief is an inherently noble act, even if the idea they are fighting for isn't. When the professor asks the student for an example, he cites a case of a monument to Communist revolutionaries in Bulgaria being defaced. He considers such an act to be cowardly and disrespectful, being that the vandal lacks the willpower to sacrifice his own life for his belief. Mary disagrees with this, and argues that merely fighting for something is not inherently good. She brings up Nazi Germany and the many SS men who has imprisoned and murdered Jewish and other classes of people considered sub-human by the Nazi authorities. Why does she bring this up?

A) The professor is Jewish and she wants brownie points
B) She is refuting the point John made that fighting for something is not inherently a merited action
C) She is bringing up the historical fact that Stalin and Himmler were best buddies and hence ethics become blurred with friendship sullying good judgment
D) John had a smug look on his face so she will say anything to argue with him

© California 5th Grade Standardized Examination Board

 

[Schadenfroh]

Or are you one of the majority of Americans that believe that Russia and America were enemies in WWII?

Not that it would surprise me, but do you have a link to back that up?

 

[JSt0rm]

An ethics professor is discussing with her students the extent to which conviction to beliefs should be praised. John states his opinion that fighting for ones belief is an inherently noble act, even if the idea they are fighting for isn't. When the professor asks the student for an example, he cites a case of a monument to Communist revolutionaries in Bulgaria being defaced. He considers such an act to be cowardly and disrespectful, being that the vandal lacks the willpower to sacrifice his own life for his belief. Mary disagrees with this, and argues that merely fighting for something is not inherently good. She brings up Nazi Germany and the many SS men who has imprisoned and murdered Jewish and other classes of people considered sub-human by the Nazi authorities. Why does she bring this up?

A) The professor is Jewish and she wants brownie points
B) She is refuting the point John made that fighting for something is not inherently a merited action
C) She is bringing up the historical fact that Stalin and Himmler were best buddies and hence ethics become blurred with friendship sullying good judgment
D) John had a smug look on his face so she will say anything to argue with him

© California 5th Grade Standardized Examination Board

Bravo!

 

[lxskllr]

Bravo!

Indeed. Quality post :^)

 

[ProfJohn]

I'm not a communist, but I'm a bit incredibly irked seeing a monument for dead men who actually fought something (whether you valued that thing they fought for or not) be degraded down to a bunch of pop culture icons. Satire or not, it's incredibly disrespectful. At least they stood for something other than overly consumerist culture and the love to revel in fictional characters.

It is a Soviet monument built in Bulgaria.

Bulgaria was allied with Germany during WW 2.

Therefore the monument was probably built by the soviets as a piece of propaganda aimed at pushing the Soviet view of things.

Painting it like the artist did is actually a very sly piece of work essentially turning yesterdays propaganda into todays.

 

[Blitzvogel]

It is a Soviet monument built in Bulgaria.

Bulgaria was allied with Germany during WW 2.

Therefore the monument was probably built by the soviets as a piece of propaganda aimed at pushing the Soviet view of things.

Painting it like the artist did is actually a very sly piece of work essentially turning yesterdays propaganda into todays.

What is interesting is that the monument shows soldiers carrying PPShs and other Soviet weapons, as well as a Soviet flag. So are these supposed to be pro-Soviet Bulgarian soldiers fighting against Germany, or just general Soviet soldiers fighting against any theoretical enemy (and therefore a general monument)? Of course such weapons were probably standard issue for a while after WW2, so the sculpture certainly could not be WW2 specific.

 

[grrl]

They're clearly in WWII uniforms. Or are you one of the majority of Americans that believe that Russia and America were enemies in WWII?

I suspect Mini Gayner can't provide a source.

 

[0roo0roo]

I'm not a communist, but I'm a bit incredibly irked seeing a monument for dead men who actually fought something (whether you valued that thing they fought for or not) be degraded down to a bunch of pop culture icons. Satire or not, it's incredibly disrespectful. At least they stood for something other than overly consumerist culture and the love to revel in fictional characters.

bull, they fought for oppression and spread that for decades...never mind for their own people. the oppressors were the ones that made the statue, not the fighting men they forced to fight with guns pointed at their backs.

 

[Bignate603]

What if they were SS forces fighting a Jewish insurrection?

Only 2 posts to hit Godwin's law. Why am I not surprised at the poster that did it?

 

[ProfJohn]

So are these supposed to be pro-Soviet Bulgarian soldiers fighting against Germany, or just general Soviet soldiers fighting against any theoretical enemy.

It was built to commemorate the 10th anniversary of the Soviets entering Sofia and umm liberating it.

Or you could say it was built on the 10th anniversary of the Soviet conquest of Bulgaria.

 

[0roo0roo]

http://io9.com/5813447/bulgarian-st...into-superman-wolverine-and-other-superheroes

 

[IGBT]

is that Ronald McDonald behind superman??

 

[qliveur]

LOL, yep.

 

[dennilfloss]

That is disrespectful. :\